CLSC Dialogues

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CLSC Dialogues

CLSC Dialogues tackles complex and pressing questions about China’s emergence as a global power and its implications for the US military. The podcast uses Strategic Landpower as the focal point of discussion—providing unique and important insights that cut across the aperture of the levers of power. The forum provides senior leaders and practitioners with a better understanding of the strategies, capabilities, and the integration of the PLA into the CCP’s campaign to turn the rules-based international order to its advantage. Further, the podcast shares insights and recommendations for developing better deterrence strategies and campaigns for the United States and our allies. Questions or feedback? E-mail usarmy.carlisle.awc.mbx.parameters@army.mil

  1. JAN 6

    CLSC Dialogues Ep 20 – Brian Carlson and David Stone – “Potential Forms of Russian Support for China in a Protracted War”

    In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Brian Carlson interviews David Stone, a Russia expert from the U.S. Naval War College, about potential forms of support that Russia might or might not provide to China in the event of a protracted war in the Indo-Pacific. They discuss the likelihood of direct Russian military intervention in support of China, possible ways that Russia might create distractions for the United States and its allies and partners, and Russia’s ability to support China by providing additional weapons, ammunition, or energy supplies. They conclude with a discussion of the likely future trajectory of the China-Russia relationship.Keywords: China, Russia, protracted war, defense cooperation, energy suppliesEpisode TranscriptYou're listening to CLSC Dialogues, land power in the Indo Pacific, a China land power studies production. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests and are not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, U.S. Army War college, or any other agency of the U.S. government.I'm Brian Carlson (USAWC/SSI), research professor of Indo Pacific security studies at the China Land Power Studies Center at the Strategic Studies Institute at the US Army War College. HOST (Brian Carlson)Joining me today is David Stone of the William E Odom professor of Russia studies in the Strategy and Policy department at the US Naval War College. He has published extensively on Russian military history and foreign policy.Thank you for joining us today, David.STONE (David Stone)My pleasure to be here.HOSTDavid and I were on a panel together back in October at the PLA conference sponsored by the China Land Power Studies Center and the topic of our panel was China's cooperation with strategic partners in the event of protracted war.David's paper focus on likely assistance that Russia could provide to China in that kind of eventuality.My paper attempted to look at how China views strategic partnerships in that kind of situation, and I also focused primarily on Russia.That will be the main topic of our podcast today.We'll discuss potential Russian support for China in the event of protracted war, and then we'll end by talking a little bit about the likely future trajectory of the China Russia relationship.So, in my paper, as I say, I attempted to analyze how China views strategic partnerships and the kind of support that they might expect from Russia and other partners in the event of protracted war. Now Chinese leaders don't say much about this. Perhaps not surprisingly. They might want to protect the confidentiality of discussions with their Russian counterparts.It's possible that they also don't have a clear understanding of what kind of support Russia might provide in the event of protracted war.The only official statement I could find on this came from last summer, when a Russian journalist at the newspaper Izvestia asked the Chinese ambassador to Russia what kind of support might China count on for Russia in the event of tensions in the Taiwan Strait?And the ambassador essentially just reiterated the one China principle. He said that the international community recognizes this principle.Russia has always supported China on it and we expect that that will continue in the future.So, he didn't say anything about possible material assistance.And some Chinese media coverage speculated on this some of the accounts said China's not showing its hand very much, or possibly the unspoken message is that China really isn't counting on Russia for much support.And might view it as a liability and might not even want much support from Russia in that kind of case.But there were also media accounts that said Russia could play a useful role,

    40 min

  2. 11/07/2024

    CLSC Dialogues – Ep 19 – R. Evan Ellis – “China, the Illiberal Counter-Order, and the Role of Values in the Strategic Response”

    In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, COL Rich Butler interviews Dr. R. Evan Ellis on his recent article written for the Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs titled, “China, the Illiberal Counter-Order, and the Role of Values in the Strategic Response.” This illuminating discussion covers what China is doing differently than the Soviets during the Cold War, and how new technology is playing a role in enabling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) objectives. The conversation then turns to the importance of these Chinese activities in the context of today, relative to Free World values. Why are Chinese activities across the globe undermining the Free World and the role of US, ally, and partner militaries, related to the wider role of governments in protecting those values. The podcast closes with insights into what the US population should pay attention to, and how we should think differently about investing in the future.Keywords: China, CCP, PLA, illiberal order, technology, military campaigning, integrated deterrence, open source analysisQJquThoRrf0f7JqKKhEZ

    36 min

  3. 09/24/2024

    CLSC Dialogues – Ep 18 – Josh Arostegui and Dennis Blasko – “A Baseline Assessment of the PLA Army's Border Reinforcement Operations in the Aksai Chin”

    In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Josh Arostegui interviews prominent China expert Dennis Blasko on his analysis of PLA Army and Boader Defense Unit activity along the Line of Actual Control between China and India. He describes the development of infrastructure that allows the PLA to maintain a more robust forward presence. He further describes headquarters, troop presence and rotations, and other activity that increases the preparedness of the PLA to seize and defend key and decisive terrain along the disputed border.Keywords: China, India, PLA Army, Chinese Border Defense Force, landpower, Line of Actual Control, open source analysis

    23 min

  4. 08/26/2024

    CLSC Dialogues – Ep 17 – COL Rich Butler and Markus Garlauskas – Protracted War Series: A Discussion with Markus Garlauskas

    In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Markus Garlauskas discusses why we should think about the potential for a protracted war in the Indo-Pacific and what lessons we should be learning from analyzing the topic. He talks about why we should think about the likelihood of a potential protracted war should peace break in a place like Taiwan and why preparedness matters. He then discusses potential escalation dynamics associated with a protracted and how that changes the deterrence calculus. The conversation then turns to factors the US national security community should consider. Keywords: China, DPRK, Russia, PLA, decision making, landpower, protracted war, escalation dynamics, simultaneity, authoritarian collusion, coalitions

    22 min

  5. 08/20/2024

    CLSC Dialogues – Ep 16 – COL Rich Butler and COL Marco Lyons – Protracted War Series: A Discussion with COL Marco Lyons

    In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, COL Marco Lyons discusses how the Pacific Army sees, understands, and utilizes landpower in the region from peacetime to a potential protracted war. He further articulates how the U.S. Army, Pacific conducts campaigning, prepares for crisis, deters conflict – and prevails in a protracted war, if necessary, in this unique region. Marco discusses the impact of Army modernization, new concepts and capabilities, and working with allies and key security partners in ways that re-enables maneuver. The discussion wraps up with insights on command relationships in this vast region. Keywords: China, U.S. Army Pacific, Indo-Pacific, operational environment, operational level of war, campaigning, planning, allies and partners, protracted war, command and control, posture, force modernization, protracted war, fires, maneuver, landpower

    22 min

  6. 08/08/2024

    CLSC Dialogues – Ep 15 – COL Rich Butler and Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens – Protracted War Series: A discussion with Dr. Sheena Greitens

    In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Dr. Sheena Greitens looks at the potential for a protracted war between the US and China by exploring how a conflict could start and variables the CCP leadership may be watching. She then addresses public perceptions, economic dimensions, and how much planning Beijing may have done in preparation for a protracted war. Keywords: China, CCP, Xi Jinping, PLA, decision making, landpower, protracted war, economic warfare, coalitions, DPRK, Russia

    32 min

  7. 07/18/2024

    CLSC Dialogues – Ep 14 – Josh Arostegui – Protracted War Series: A Discussion with Josh Arostegui

    In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Josh Arostegui discusses some of the more salient points regarding how prepared the PRC is for a protracted war. He describes how the PLA remains designed to execute large-scale combat operations through the existence of unique PLA reserve, militia-centric organizations, and deep military integration within the country’s civilian infrastructure. Keywords: China, PLA, civilian-military fusion, landpower, protracted war, PLA reserve, PLA military militia

    12 min

  8. 07/15/2024

    CLSC Dialogues – Ep 13 – Josh Arostegui and Rick Gunnell – An Interview with Dennis Blasko

    In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Josh Arostegui, and Rick Gunnell interview renowned China expert Dennis Blasko. They discuss the origins of Blasko's interest in China and the PLA, then delve into his research and writing on Chinese landpower. Blasko provides wisdom and insight China watchers as they continue the tradition of researching, analyzing, and educating.mentoring, career, China, PLA, Landpower, open source analysis

    24 min
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CLSC Dialogues tackles complex and pressing questions about China’s emergence as a global power and its implications for the US military. The podcast uses Strategic Landpower as the focal point of discussion—providing unique and important insights that cut across the aperture of the levers of power. The forum provides senior leaders and practitioners with a better understanding of the strategies, capabilities, and the integration of the PLA into the CCP’s campaign to turn the rules-based international order to its advantage. Further, the podcast shares insights and recommendations for developing better deterrence strategies and campaigns for the United States and our allies. Questions or feedback? E-mail usarmy.carlisle.awc.mbx.parameters@army.mil

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