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What happens after you go cloud and the reality sinks in



For some, the cloud is rainbows, puppies and happy promises. You’ve whiteboarded a vision, forecasted the benefits and made promises to the business. Now the real work begins. Is the design a reality ? How do you handle failure ? Can you cope with shifting demands, changing requirements, and security concerns all running on the unknown ?

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What happens after you go cloud and the reality sinks in



For some, the cloud is rainbows, puppies and happy promises. You’ve whiteboarded a vision, forecasted the benefits and made promises to the business. Now the real work begins. Is the design a reality ? How do you handle failure ? Can you cope with shifting demands, changing requirements, and security concerns all running on the unknown ?

    Azure Cloud Networking Essentials

    Azure Cloud Networking Essentials

    On today’s episode we peel back the covers on networking in Azure. We get details on the ability to inspect packets in Azure and the use of third-party virtual appliances, the role of network security groups, the design implications of how Azure spans its availability zones, and the use of network peering and private links to connect to the cloud.

    We also get into options for SSL termination, Virtual WAN, point-to-point VPNs, and Azure’s VPN gateway.

    Our guest is Pierre Roman, Sr Cloud Ops Advocate at Microsoft. This is not a sponsored episode.

    Pierre’s cloud networking takeaway: Did you think about it first?

    Show Links:

    @wiredcanuck – Pierre Roman on Twitter

    Step-By-Step: Connect your AWS and Azure environments with a VPN tunnel – Updated – Argon Systems

    Microsoft Docs Library – Microsoft

    ITOpsTalk.com

    IT OpsTalk – Discord

    IT OpsTalk – YouTube

    • 51 min
    Public Cloud Isn't Wrong. You Are.

    Public Cloud Isn't Wrong. You Are.

    Today’s Day Two Cloud is a wide-ranging discussion about the value of public cloud, a response to the growing backlash toward public cloud, and techniques to better meld automation into application and infrastructure delivery.

    Given cloud costs and complexity, would we be better off returning to on-prem? Guest Chris Wahl is here to say no. He argues for cloud and automation by using them like they were meant to, rather than trying to map old processes and architectures onto the new. We also explore the notion of pipelines for automation application and infrastructure delivery to take full advantage of public cloud services, and why applying cloud principles to on-prem applications yields diminishing returns.

    Chris Wahl is Senior Principal at Slalom. You may have also heard Chris in his role as co-host of the Datanauts podcast. Datanauts has been retired, but you can hear every episode here.

    We discuss:



    * Cloud backlash

    * How to think about automation

    * The persistence of legacy applications

    * Automation pipelines and tooling

    * Repositories and version control

    * Viewing cloud as a way to make apps more profitable rather than cheaper to operate

    * More



    Sponsor: CBT Nuggets

    CBT Nuggets is IT training for IT professionals and anyone looking to build IT skills. If you want to make fully operational your networking, security, cloud, automation, or DevOps battle station visit cbtnuggets.com/cloud.

    Show Links:

    @ChrisWahl – Chris Wahl on Twitter

    Chris Wahl on LinkedIn

    Wahl Network – Chris’s blog

    Chris Wahl on YouTube



     

    • 55 min
    Grappling With The Open Source Business Model

    Grappling With The Open Source Business Model

    Today on Day Two Cloud we get into…well, a whole lot of things. For example, what is IT’s value in the age of cloud? How can IT figure out what’s actually providing value to the business vs. undifferentiated heavy lifting? How a company like Red Hat, which is built on open-source software, can be a multi-billion dollar company.

    Our guest is Stu Miniman, Director of Market Insights at Red Hat. You may recognize Stu from former life as an analyst at SiliconAngle and interviewer with The Cube. Stu works for Red Hat now and we do talk about some Red Hat products including OpenShift, but this isn’t a sponsored episode.

    We discuss:



    * Making the transition from practitioner to analyst

    * Whether the cloud makes IT obsolete

    * How to identify the high-value aspects of IT

    * The difference between open source and free

    * The business model of open source

    * The value of OpenShift vs. plain-vanilla Kubernetes

    * More



    Show Links:

    @stu – Stu Miniman on Twitter

    Stu Miniman on LinkedIn

    Red Hat Summit

    Transcript:

    [00:00:04.930] – Ned

    Welcome to Day Two Cloud today we have a special guest, a friend of the show, Stu Miniman, from Red Hat. He’s the director of Market Insights there. And if you have no idea what that title means, don’t worry, we didn’t either. We made sure to ask Stu what’s going on with that. And we also covered a lot of ground in the world of what’s going on with technology and how we as infrastructure people can provide more value than what we’re doing today. What stuck out to you Ethan?

    [00:00:33.820] – Ethan

    In the context of Stu working at Red Hat. We do talk about open source software, quite a bit open being kind of part and parcel of what Red Hat is all about. And we get into some specific examples how OpenShift really works and how if I’m looking at open source and thinking free, maybe open source doesn’t mean free. And how Red Hat interprets all that, because, of course, Ned Red Hat is a multi billion with a B dollar company.

    [00:00:59.440] – Ned

    Right? Well, there’s there’s free as in beer free as in a puppy and free as in a piano. So you will see which one of those OpenShift is for you in this episode.

    [00:01:10.420]

    Stu Miniman, welcome to the show. You’ve been on Packet Pusher’s podcasts before, but this is your first time on Day Two Cloud. So why don’t you introduce yourself to the fine listeners that we have out there.

    [00:01:22.720] – Stu

    Thank you, Ned. Great to be on. Ethan. Great to be on a podcast with you again. It has been a few years since you and I have had our audio waves recorded together. And nice to see you both since obviously we’re not seeing anybody in person all too often. So hi for the audience that doesn’t know me, Ned said. My name is Stu Miniman. Currently work for Red Hat, my titles director of Market Insights. I’m part of the cloud team there.

    [00:01:49.360]

    So if you’re familiar with like OpenShift, all the kubernetes stuff, Open Stack is in the group that we do join them towards the end of twenty twenty. Before that, most people know me. I was an analyst and host of a video program called The Cube, so I’d done thousands of interviews at all the clouds and everywhere in between. So Amazon, Microsoft, Google, VMware shows. And yeah, Red Hat was was also a show that we covered.

    [00:02:18.520]

    So I personally done thousands of interviews,

    • 49 min
    Essential Concepts Of Zero Trust

    Essential Concepts Of Zero Trust

    Today’s Day Two Cloud episode aims to pick apart the marketing fluff around Zero Trust (there’s a lot of it) to uncover a workable definition, discuss the rationale for this approach, and develop a framework for how to think about zero trust.

    The essential idea of zero trust is to treat an entity (a device, a user, an application) as a potential risk and then take steps to reduce that risk. These steps could include limiting access, enforcing segmentation, intercepting and scanning traffic for threats, and applying and enforcing policies based on context such as user role, device type, and location.

    As you might guess, there are lots of ways to mix, match, and implement these controls.

    We discuss:



    * The concept of Zero Trust and Zero Trust Network Access (ZTNA)

    * How it relates to, and differs from other security approaches

    * A zero trust framework including identity management, policy, and enforcement

    * Different vendor approaches to zero trust

    * More



    Sponsor: CBT Nuggets

    CBT Nuggets is IT training for IT professionals and anyone looking to build IT skills. If you want to make fully operational your networking, security, cloud, automation, or DevOps battle station visit cbtnuggets.com/cloud.

    Tech Bytes: Gluware

    Stay tuned for a sponsored Tech Bytes conversation with Gluware. Gluware is a network automation platform to automate and orchestrate multi-vendor network devices on premises and in the cloud. We explore the latest features and capabilities in the Gluware platform, including an API-based controller to work with SD-WAN, and integration with Terraform to support infrastructure automation in the public cloud. Our guests are Michael Haugh, VP, Product Marketing; and Olivier Huynh Van, CSO, Co-Founder.

    Show Transcript:

    [00:00:00.940] – Ethan

    [AD] Sponsor CBT Nuggets, is IT training for IT professionals and anyone looking to build IT skills, if you want to make fully operational your networking cloud security automation or DevOps Battle Station, visit CBT nuggets, dotcom slash cloud. That’s CBT nuggets. Dotcom slash cloud. [/AD]

    [00:00:24.840] – Ned

    Welcome to Day Two Cloud and, you know, on Day Two Cloud, one of the things that we try to focus on is cutting through the marketing fluff and getting down to the core of what something is, because marketing likes to abuse terms and we like terms to, I don’t know, mean something. So today’s conversation is going to be me and Ethan trying to pick apart what zero trust networking is. You’ve probably heard, the term zero trust. It’s been splashy on all kinds of websites and marketing fluff, but it needs to mean something.

    [00:00:53.190]

    So we’re going to try to figure out what that thing is. And then after that, stay tuned for a sponsored Tech Bytes conversation with Gluware about automating your cloud networking. So, Ethan, zero trust. I’m going I’m going to start with the big question. Are you ready?

    [00:01:08.110] – Ethan

    I’m ready.

    [00:01:09.120] – Ned

    All right. What is it?

    [00:01:13.300] – Ethan

    That is the biggest question of all, Ned. What is zero trust? So zero zero trust ZTNA. Zero Trust Network access. Well, OK, it’s it’s been a term that’s come up a lot recently. And to me it’s it’s an evolution of micro segmentation. Do you remember what micro segmentation is that you run into that?

    [00:01:31.260] – Ned

    Yeah, definitely ran into that when I was still working with VMware a bit because that was a big thing with NSX,

    • 49 min
    Application Modernization With VMware (Sponsored)

    Application Modernization With VMware (Sponsored)

    Today’s Day Two Cloud tackles application modernization with sponsor VMware. As new application platforms such as containers and the public cloud take hold, organizations need to examine their application portfolio to figure out how  applications are meeting business requirements—and how they aren’t.
    The point of app modernization is to determine whether a new approach and new technologies will better align your applications with your business goals. For example, would greater agility in a critical business app help the business respond faster to new demands? Would an application be better served by elastic resource consumption or improved resiliency?
    On today’s show we discuss how to understand whether and when an app could do with a rethink, how to weigh the pros and cons of different approaches (containers, VMs, serverless, on-prem, cloud-native, etc.,), and why consistency should be a key element of your strategy. We also discuss VMware products and services including Tanzu and VMware Cloud.
    Our VMware guests are Kit Colbert, VP and Cloud CTO; and Dormain Drewitz, Sr. Director, Product Marketing for Modern Apps.
    Show Links:
    Office of the CTO Blog – VMware
    VMware Cloud Event – Registration
    VMware Tanzu
    Responsible Microservices, with Nate Schutta – Tanzu Conversation (Podcast)
    Bringing More Tanzu to Three Cloud Transformations – Dormain Drewitz via VMware
    @DormainDrewitz – Dormain Drewitz on Twitter
    @kitcolbert – Kit Colbert on Twitter
    Transcript:
    [00:00:05.880] – Ethan
    Welcome to Day Two Cloud. Ned, we have a show on app modernization or modern apps or I guess kind of both of them with our sponsor today, VMware.
    [00:00:16.620] – Ned
    Right. And this is a really interesting conversation. It’s not just about VMware. It’s really about this larger app modernization landscape that we find ourselves in. And the point that I took home from everything was consistency is key at multiple layers if you’re going to responsibly manage this app real estate that you have. So let’s get right into the conversation.
    [00:00:38.970] – Ethan
    Enjoy this conversation with Kit Colbert, VP and cloud CTO at VMware, as well as Dormain Drewitz, senior director of Product Marketing for Modern Apps.
    [00:00:49.210] – Ethan
    Well, welcome, both of you to the show and what we want to discuss today is modern apps. Modern application modernization is really the big idea, which is kind of a buzz word. So Dormain I want to start with you to set context for this conversation. We need to define what a modern app really is here. We’re talking about moving to cloud. OK, so is a modern app one thing, many possible things. What do we mean by this?
    [00:01:15.370] – Dormain
    Yeah, I think it’s a good question. And it’s interesting how you kind of talk about, well, there’s modern apps, there’s app modernization. And I actually prefer to talk about app modernization because that’s a spectrum that can hit so many diffe...

    • 52 min
    What AWS Lambda Is Good For

    What AWS Lambda Is Good For

    Today’s Day Two Cloud podcast is a thorough introduction to AWS Lambda, which is AWS’s serverless compute service. We discuss how Lamdba works, what it can do, use cases, and more.

    In general, serverless combines a managed service with event-driven compute to allow customers to avoid or minimize infrastructure management and reduce idle capacity. That is, the customer runs functions on demand rather than maintaining a persistent server instance.

    Our guide for today’s conversation is Julian Wood, Senior Developer Advocate for the Serverless Product Group at AWS. This is not a sponsored show.

    We discuss:



    * The differences between functions-as-a-service and serverless

    * A brief history of serverless at AWS

    * Core Lambda components

    * Common serverless use cases

    * Stitching functions together

    * How to package your code and supported languages

    * Addressing latency, state, and other issues

    * New features

    * More



    Sponsor: CBT Nuggets

    CBT Nuggets is IT training for IT professionals and anyone looking to build IT skills. If you want to make fully operational your networking, security, cloud, automation, or DevOps battle station visit cbtnuggets.com/cloud.

    Show Links:

    Serverlessland.com Blog – Amazon

    @julian_wood – Julian Wood on Twitter

    AWS Tech Talks – Serverless

    AWS Serverless Office Hours on Twitch

    AWS Serverless Workshops: Innovator Island & Wild Rydes

    WoodITWork – Julian’s blog

    Transcript:

    [00:00:00.990] – Ethan

    [AD] CBT Nuggets, is IT training for IT professionals and anyone looking to build IT skills, if you want to make fully operational your networking cloud security automation or DevOps Battle Station, visit CBT nuggets, dotcom slash cloud. That’s CBT nuggets. Dotcom slash cloud. [/AD]

    [00:00:24.720]

    Welcome to Day Two Cloud. Oh, boy, do we have a show for you today, we are going to go. I was going to say deep on AWS Ned, I don’t know how deep we actually get into AWS Lambda specifically, but we have developer advocate Julian Wood joining us. And we do get a pretty thorough introduction to Lambda what it can do, its use cases and so on. There was a lot here and Julian was very enthusiastic.

    [00:00:51.090] – Ned

    Yeah. So the thing that struck me is Julian and we talked for almost an hour, maybe a little bit more, and during that time I feel like we only scratched the surface. Like there is so much more to what you can do with Lambda the use cases, how it functions. We even get to talk about security and monitoring. So maybe that’s a whole other episode is very engaging and interesting conversation about Lambda and filled in some gaps for me that I didn’t even know I had.

    [00:01:18.540] – Ethan

    I felt the same way. It filled in gaps I didn’t know I had, because as we kept talking about what you could do with Lambda and the appropriate use cases that began to it made me rethink how I think about computing and how computing work gets done.

    • 1 hr 1 min

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