Podcast #16: Tom McLean Wait Long By The River

Tom McLean is a jokes guy. And a programmer. And a game designer. And a documentary videographer. It's not an easy life being so many things, but he makes it look easy with a charming smile and jokes about the Pope, among countless other things. He's form Melbourne, and he came in to the comforot of our podcasting library to talk about his many works.

In this episode Tom and I discuss starting out as a comedian, how to structure a comedy night so as to avoid death lulls, Foxconn and the Fair Phone, his new podcast Two Wizards, thingsfittingperfectlyintootherthings.tumblr.com, his enormously successful board game Story War, ASMR, page names, becoming a Christian at a late age and then un-a Christian later even than that, visiting charities in Africa and India, the romance of phone metadata, and how he stole the title of his latest show from a work by Ai Wei Wei.

Make sure you get tickets to his show, Dropping a Han Dynasty Urn, at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival!