9 episodes

For over a year, Zak Rosen and his wife, Shira Heisler, discussed whether or not they wanted to have children. They conferred with friends, family, writers, and scientists along the way.

Pregnant Pause is their intimate account of making the most important decision of their lives (so far).

Pregnant Pause with Zak and Shira Zak Rosen

    • Kids & Family
    • 5.0 • 6 Ratings

For over a year, Zak Rosen and his wife, Shira Heisler, discussed whether or not they wanted to have children. They conferred with friends, family, writers, and scientists along the way.

Pregnant Pause is their intimate account of making the most important decision of their lives (so far).

    #8 The Beat Goes On

    #8 The Beat Goes On

    Zak and Shira try to pick up the pieces after an unfortunate series of events. 

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    • 35 min
    #7 We Are Powerless

    #7 We Are Powerless

    Something completely unexpected takes hold and everything changes. 

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    • 19 min
    #6 Who Wants it More?

    #6 Who Wants it More?

    Shira is at the end of her rope. She wants a baby. And the aha moment that Zak keeps waiting for, it’s likely never gonna come. So now what?

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    • 15 min
    #5 Childless is More

    #5 Childless is More

    Zak loves the life he and Shira lead now, without kids. So he asks a chorus of people who've decided not to have kids what went into their decisions and how their childfree lives have turned out. 

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    • 20 min
    #4 The Central Sadness w/Meghan Daum

    #4 The Central Sadness w/Meghan Daum

    Zak and Shira inch toward a decision while Meghan Daum, essayist and editor of “Selfish, Shallow, and Self-Absorbed: Sixteen Writers on The Decision Not To Have Kids,” stops by to tell her story. 

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    • 17 min
    #3 The Climate Worriers

    #3 The Climate Worriers

    Zak and Shira's philosopher friend introduces them to the concept of anti-natalism, and gets them thinking, is it morally wrong to bring a human into this world? Then Zak compares his climate anxiety to the meteorologist and writer, Eric Holthaus, who has pondered a vasectomy in the face of climate catastrophe. 

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    • 19 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
6 Ratings

6 Ratings

FLORIDER01 ,

Such an important conversation!

Love this podcast. Such a brave thing to do for this couple, but such an important conversation we all need to be having openly...I want to hear the next series!

alpha_mushi ,

A great new podcast

I came across this podcast on Smart Girls, and even though we're only two episodes in I am hooked. I have really enjoyed listening to Zak and Shira so far, and have found the episodes helpful and entertaining. Thanks for making a podcast about exactly what I'm mentally going through right now (except it's my husband who's totally sure and I'm super hesitant for the same reasons Zak has explained ep 1).

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