59 episodes

Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes.

Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

On this podcast, Jason interviews academics, researchers, leading thinkers, and other interesting people. Jason also interviews "actual real people" about their passions, aspirations, beliefs and behaviours.

Key themes include consumer insights, market research, design thinking, innovation, culture, trends and much more.

This podcast will be particularly interesting to innovators, professionals, leaders, students and those with a beginner's mind, the curious who want to know more about human thinking and behaviour.

Check out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeople

Connect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=en

Send Jason an email - jason@squareholes.com

Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/

Find out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/

Produced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/

Real People, With Jason Dunstone - Consumer Insights, Market Research, Customers, Design Thinking and More Jason Dunstone, Square Holes

    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 16 Ratings

Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes.

Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

On this podcast, Jason interviews academics, researchers, leading thinkers, and other interesting people. Jason also interviews "actual real people" about their passions, aspirations, beliefs and behaviours.

Key themes include consumer insights, market research, design thinking, innovation, culture, trends and much more.

This podcast will be particularly interesting to innovators, professionals, leaders, students and those with a beginner's mind, the curious who want to know more about human thinking and behaviour.

Check out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeople

Connect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=en

Send Jason an email - jason@squareholes.com

Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/

Find out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/

Produced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/

    #59 - Roger Wilkins - US politics and people, vs Australia

    #59 - Roger Wilkins - US politics and people, vs Australia

    Today we are joined by Roger Wilkins, an American now living in Adelaide. Jason and Roger chat trying to make sense of the differences and similarities between Australian and Americans.

    Roger is a strategic communications advisor and republican political advisor. A strategic thinker and man with an eclectic background from selling solar power to veteran affairs, and has worked in communications and strategic roles in New York and New Hampshire, and shares a fascinating take on what makes the United States of America tick. It's politics, people and history, and we discuss how this compares with life in Australia.


    Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes. Subscribe to Real People on your favourite podcast player.

    Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

    Check out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeople
    Connect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=en
    Send Jason an email - jason@squareholes.com Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/
    Find out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/
    Produced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/

    • 1 hr 50 min
    #58 - Jamin Brazil - the happy market researcher

    #58 - Jamin Brazil - the happy market researcher

    Today we are joined by Jamin Brazil, market research entrepreneur, and tech pioneer.

    Fresno, California-based Jamin is the super popular host of the Happy Market Research Podcast with more than 300 episodes in which he interviews consumer insight and research professionals and entrepreneurs from across the world.

    Jamin comes from a position of informed influence having founded top online survey platform Decipher in 2000 and Focus Vision research platform Focus Vision in 2016.

    An active contributor to the research industry and supporting early stage companies throughout California, Jamin is adjunct professor at California State University and an all-round nice guy.

    We discuss the world in 2020, research, entrepreneurship and much more.

    Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes. Subscribe to Real People on your favourite podcast player.

    Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

    Check out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeople
    Connect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=en
    Send Jason an email - jason@squareholes.com Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/
    Find out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/
    Produced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/

    • 1 hr 10 min
    #57 - Ebony Gaylor - Decade of Action

    #57 - Ebony Gaylor - Decade of Action

    We are joined by Ebony Gaylor, Managing Partner of newly launched social cause agency Decade of Action, a partnership with Thinkerbell's Adam Ferrier and Margie Reid.

    Ebony has held key strategy and social change roles, most recently for the Australian Red Cross. We discuss Ebony's background and childhood, and the motivation behind Decade of Action, and why businesses play a critical role in addressing urgent global challenges over the next 10 years and beyond.

    We discuss how business has a critical role to play and needs to take more targeted and authentic action. We explore the key role of evidence in identifying critical causes, that may seem left of centre to many of the more visible issues that come top of mind.

    And approaches to working with influential businesses, brands, governments and movements to boldly define their purpose platform and galvanize their assets, ideas and to have a positive impact on the world.

    Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes. Subscribe to Real People on your favourite podcast player.

    Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

    Check out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeople
    Connect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=en
    Send Jason an email - jason@squareholes.com Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/
    Find out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/
    Produced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/

    • 1 hr 4 min
    #56 - Dr Fiona Kerr + Steve Sammartino

    #56 - Dr Fiona Kerr + Steve Sammartino

    Today we are joined by Dr Fiona Kerr, Founder and CEO of the Neurotech Institute, and leading futurist
    and author Steve Sammartino in our first double header with previous guests.

    Fiona was interviewed in episode 11 of Real People and Steve in episode 16.

    This most certainly was an explosion of thinking as Fiona and Steve shared their observations of the
    world in chaos and what this means moving forward.

    We discuss a huge amount in a rollercoaster chat from digital sovereignty to how well Australia is performing at a global scale.

    We discuss the hunger games of the US and lessons as to how to take a longer-term perspective can be learnt from places like Finland. We ponder is Australia more like the US or Europe? And, does Australia's safe stability make us lucky or lazy?

    We discuss systems thinking and blind spots. What future capitalism will look like. And, the high likelihood we will just slot back into comfortable old ways, even with the pause during COVID-19 to slow down and think about better ways moving forward.

    Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes. Subscribe to Real People on your favourite podcast player.

    Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

    Check out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeople
    Connect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=en
    Send Jason an email - jason@squareholes.com Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/
    Find out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/
    Produced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/

    • 1 hr 5 min
    #55 - Prof. Genevieve Bell - Contact tracing, data and vulnerability

    #55 - Prof. Genevieve Bell - Contact tracing, data and vulnerability

    Today we are joined by Distinguished Professor Genevieve Bell, Director of the 3A Institute at ANU in Canberra, a collaboration with CSIRO's Data61, with the mission of building a new applied science around the management of artificial intelligence, data, technology and their impact on humanity.

    Genevieve is also Senior Fellow, New Technology Group at Intel, since joining Intel as a researcher to conduct ethnographic research in 1998.

    This is a most fascinating discussion about the world in chaos, how we are adjusting and what might come. We discuss key themes such as contact tracing and mass surveillance, and how critical it is that our communities embrace to fight COVID-19.

    We explore how the devastating Australian bushfires and now COVID-19 have shone the light on our vulnerabilities and segments of the community that were already falling through the cracks dealing with inequality, personal dangers and complexities, and the role of the government in supporting this.

    Genevieve shares her perspective on how Australia has dealt with COVID-19 compared with other parts of the world, and how it is near impossible to understand the situation without more data and stable models.

    Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes. Subscribe to Real People on your favourite podcast player.

    Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

    Check out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeople
    Connect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=en
    Send Jason an email - jason@squareholes.com Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/
    Find out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/
    Produced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/

    • 56 min
    #54 - Dr Rebecca Huntley - Australia lucky, even in a pandemic

    #54 - Dr Rebecca Huntley - Australia lucky, even in a pandemic

    Today we are joined by Dr Rebecca Huntley, one of Australia's foremost researchers on social trends.

    A regular media commentator and writer, including for the Quarterly Essay of March 2019, in which she
    explored how Australians are calling for change from our government in climate change and wider social
    issues, and the corruption of democracy.

    Rebecca is the author of numerous books, including 'How to Talk About Climate Change in a Way That
    Makes a Difference,' Still Lucky and The World According to Y.

    We discuss the changes that may come from the chaos of bushfires then COVID-19, some thinking around how Australia and Australians have responded well to a pandemic, and ponder 'are we still lucky?'

    We discuss fairness vs freedom and the likely shift in thinking towards Australia seeking a greater level
    of self-sufficiency moving forward, and the wider impact on our cultural values.

    Real People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes. Subscribe to Real People on your favourite podcast player.

    Jason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.

    Check out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeople
    Connect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=en
    Send Jason an email - jason@squareholes.com Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/
    Find out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/
    Produced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/

    • 1 hr 7 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
16 Ratings

16 Ratings

LukeWarh ,

New favourite podcast

Listened to the first 5 eps in one weekend and looking forward to the next. Really stimulating conversations. Thank you.

Happy Real Person ,

Love it

Really loved Robert’s interview and outside perspective on Adelaide and start ups.

Jimmy Jam Jam Jam ,

Good job

Thanks Suhit for the great discussion about lessons from growing up in India.

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