18 episodes

An irreverent podcast about Service Design Principles hosted by Guy Martin and Daniele Catalanotto.

Join us as we provide you with a deeper understanding of service design principles, enhanced by real-world examples and anecdotes from Daniele’s extensive expertise as a leading service design practitioner and founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy, and Guy’s experience from working with global companies and startups in various roles, including service delivery, client services, and corporate education.

Explicit tag is for language (we drop a few swear words here and there) and occasional “adult themes”.


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Daniele Catalanotto is a service design practitioner, the author of the Service Design Principles series of books, and the founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy

Guy Martin has worked with global companies and startups in a wide range of roles, including service delivery, corporate education, and leadership development.

Music by Mikhail Smusev from Pixabay

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Service Design Principles Neolux Consulting

    • Business

An irreverent podcast about Service Design Principles hosted by Guy Martin and Daniele Catalanotto.

Join us as we provide you with a deeper understanding of service design principles, enhanced by real-world examples and anecdotes from Daniele’s extensive expertise as a leading service design practitioner and founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy, and Guy’s experience from working with global companies and startups in various roles, including service delivery, client services, and corporate education.

Explicit tag is for language (we drop a few swear words here and there) and occasional “adult themes”.


Support us with Value 4 Value

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Time - rate us on your preferred podcast platform, write a review, or submit your own service design principles or insights into the SDP in the books.

Talent - Help promote the podcast on social media, produce some incidental music for the show, or suggest a way your talents can help.

Treasure - use a modern podcast app to send us boost-a-grams or streaming value. We’ll recognize all contributions and comments in future episodes. Alternatively, make a traditional donation via Ko-Fi to help us cover our hosting and production costs.

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Traditional donation:
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Daniele Catalanotto is a service design practitioner, the author of the Service Design Principles series of books, and the founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy

Guy Martin has worked with global companies and startups in a wide range of roles, including service delivery, corporate education, and leadership development.

Music by Mikhail Smusev from Pixabay

Hosted with Castopod

We support Podcasting 2.0

A production of Neolux Consulting

    Technology

    Technology

    This episode Daniele and Guy take a look at Technology, and join most of the world to give our take on AI. We espouse the virtues of analog technology (pencil and paper), and look at why some bots are better then humans, and others make us feel betrayed.


    Chapters
    00:00 Technology
    00:02 Intro
    00:42 Why do we sometimes struggle to make technology work for us?
    02:31 Sometimes, Pen and Paper works best
    07:46 Ambivalence about “AI”
    15:20 Robots don’t have mirror neurons.
    19:26 I prefer bots over fake humans (SDP 33)
    22:12 Let me speak with a Human (SDP 34)
    26:46 Why can’t I answer this email? (SDP 35)
    32:53 The balance between user-friendliness and security.
    33:52 IT is your peer with a different perspective.
    35:39 Stick with the tools you already have.
    39:28 …or maybe not.
    44:16 It’s now time for websites that react to the context (SDP 36)
    51:31 Outro
    52:12 A small request.


    Mentioned in this episode:


    Cal Newport - Deep Questions


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    Daniele Catalanotto is a service design practitioner, the author of the Service Design Principles series of books, and the founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy

    Guy Martin has worked with global companies and startups in a wide range of roles, including service delivery, corporate education, and leadership development.

    Music by Mikhail Smusev from Pixabay

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    Thanks to Castopod, a Podcasting 2.0 and ActivityPub enabled host, for their support.

    A production of Neolux Consulting

    • 52 min
    Impersonal Service

    Impersonal Service

    This episode Guy Martin and Daniele Catalanotto go into what makes a service seem impersonal, and how organizations can make small changes to help their customers feel warmer about their interactions. Daniele tries to get a coffee from Starbucks, and we talk about hotels again.


    Chapters

    00:00 Intro

    00:48 Organizations are collections of humans

    01:49 Ask Unnecessary Emotional information

    04:43 Good salespeople understand the value of emotion

    06:30 It works even when we recognize it

    11:32 Different Levels of Service Design

    13:28 Some good advice when facing change and uncertainty

    15:19 Making It Personal Is Different For Every Culture

    18:01 Culture is more than just nationality

    23:41 Just Remember Me

    29:03 and for extra points, Remember My Preferences

    31:43 If you already have the information, use it!

    34:17 Outro


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    Daniele Catalanotto is a service design practitioner, the author of the Service Design Principles series of books, and the founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy

    Guy Martin has worked with global companies and startups in a wide range of roles, including service delivery, corporate education, and leadership development.

    Music by Mikhail Smusev from Pixabay

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    • 35 min
    Pricing

    Pricing

    In this episode, we explore the nuanced relationship between pricing strategies and service design. The discussion highlights three key areas:

    Complex Pricing and User Interface Design: Daniele shares insights on how complex pricing can complicate user interfaces, using public transportation ticket machines as an example. He suggests that simplifying pricing could lead to more user-friendly interfaces.

    Innovative Pricing Models: The conversation covers innovative approaches to pricing, such as Switzerland’s “L’abonnement général” for public transport, and the simplicity and transparency of Basecamp’s pricing model for SaaS. These examples illustrate the benefits of straightforward pricing structures in enhancing customer experience.

    Psychological Impact of Pricing on Quality Perception: Daniele discusses how pricing affects customers’ perceptions of quality and engagement, sharing personal anecdotes about book pricing strategies. The episode delves into ethical considerations in pricing, emphasizing the importance of building meaningful relationships through thoughtful pricing strategies.

    Overall, the episode sheds light on the intricate role of pricing in service design, urging designers and businesses to consider how pricing strategies impact user experience, customer relationships, and perceived value.

    (Show summary by ChatGPT)

    00:00 Intro
    00:49 The Problem Is Not the Interface, It’s the Pricing
    04:48 L’abonnement Général
    07:19 37 Signals
    07:50 Basecamp Pricing
    09:41 Bigger Organizations
    10:21 Trade-offs
    12:04 Show Me Your Damn Pricing
    13:20 Provide recurring services? You’re in a relationship.
    16:15 The Price Changes The Quality Without Any Other Change
    22:17 A higher price gives you room
    25:55 Guy doesn’t answer the question.
    27:20 Pricing in threes
    29:11 BANT Framework
    30:04 Quantitative elements have lots of research and data
    32:23 Some takeaways
    34:21 Wrap up

    Swiss GA Travelcard - “l’abonnement général”- https://www.sbb.ch/en/tickets-offers/travelcards/ga-travelcard.html

    Fair Tiq - https://fairtiq.com/en/

    37 Signals - https://37signals.com/
    Basecamp - https://basecamp.com/pricing

    BANT Framework - Budget Authority Need Timing (Search for “BANT framework alternative” for other frameworks)


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    Daniele Catalanotto is a service design practitioner, the author of the Service Design Principles series of books, and the founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy

    Guy Martin has worked with global companies and startups in a wide range of roles, including service delivery, corporate education, and leadership development.

    Music by Mikhail Smusev from Pixabay

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    • 35 min
    Introducing Service Design Principles 301-400

    Introducing Service Design Principles 301-400

    Guy Martin talks with Daniele Catalanotto about the release of his latest book on Service Design Principles. The conversation starts with Daniele clarifying what service design principles mean: ideas or advice aimed at simplifying and enhancing human experiences. The books are described as a “toilet books” - ideal for short, insightful reads leading to brief moments of reflection.

    Daniele reveals that this fourth volume in the series adopts a fresh approach by incorporating feedback and insights from a global tour where he engaged with service design experts. This iteration is not just a book but a comprehensive media experience, featuring around 10 hours of video content. It integrates expert discussions directly into the narrative, allowing readers to explore topics more deeply online.

    We also touch on the diverse content and the inclusion of a curated list of resources at the book’s end, making it a valuable tool for both casual reading and in-depth exploration of service design.

    Highlighting the communal aspect of this launch, Daniele invites listeners to a unique party, marking the book’s release. Unlike typical launch events, this gathering aims to foster a broader discussion on service design, encouraging questions and interactions with experts from around the world.

    https://store.swissinnovation.academy/book-launch-party-service-design-principles-301-400

    00:00 Intro
    00:24 What is a Service Design Principle anyway?
    02:17 What’s different about this volume?
    03:42 So much content!
    05:03 It’s a party
    06:49 Thanks giving
    08:20 Outro and Event information


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    Daniele Catalanotto is a service design practitioner, the author of the Service Design Principles series of books, and the founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy

    Guy Martin has worked with global companies and startups in a wide range of roles, including service delivery, corporate education, and leadership development.

    Music by Mikhail Smusev from Pixabay

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    A production of Neolux Consulting

    • 8 min
    Waiting...

    Waiting...

    In this first “long-form” episode of the Service Design Principles podcast, we explore how the perception of time influences people’s experiences of waiting. We use examples such as train journeys and elevator lobbies to illustrate how changing the environment or offering distractions can alter perceptions of waiting time.

    Then we go into the concept of ‘cooling-off’ periods in various contexts, like medical decisions and major purchases, emphasising the need for waiting in certain decision-making processes.

    The conversation shifts to practical strategies in customer service, focusing on modern solutions like callback options in hotlines and designing more thoughtful on-hold experiences. We highlight the importance of transparency and communication in setting realistic expectations and providing clear information to enhance customer satisfaction.

    We talk about the potential of using waiting time creatively, suggesting that waiting periods can be transformed into opportunities for education and engagement, offering examples where waiting time is utilised to provide informative content or entertainment.

    The role of smartphones in waiting scenarios is also discussed. We acknowledge the prevalent and almost addictive use of mobile devices but suggest that allowing phone usage in waiting areas can be beneficial.

    We then conclude that waiting can actually have a strategic value in service design. When managed appropriately, waiting can be an integral and constructive part of the service experience.

    Chapters:


    00:00 Welcome
    00:29 Today’s Episode - Waiting
    01:47 The role of perception
    03:44 Cooling off periods
    07:12 How can we make make waiting more tolerable
    10:09 Small courtesies
    13:00 Some classic examples of changing perceptions
    15:25 A mental framework for waiting
    18:59 Under Promise, Over Deliver
    20:24 Waiting time isn’t just about waiting time.
    25:19 SDP 18 and 19 - Smartphones and waiting
    30:30 Why are we waiting?
    34:42 Waiting can encourage people to learn to fish, instead of just getting fish handed to them
    37:15 Waiting as a brand decision
    41:20 Outro

    Rory Sutherland TED talk:
    https://www.ted.com/talks/rory_sutherland_life_lessons_from_an_ad_man

    New York Times article on increasing walking times at Houston airport reduced complaints about luggage delivery times: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/opinion/sunday/why-waiting-in-line-is-torture.html (Sorry for the paywall - this was the earliest source I could find for this)


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    Daniele Catalanotto is a service design practitioner, the author of the Service Design Principles series of books, and the founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy

    Guy Martin has worked with global companies and startups in a wide range of roles, including service delivery, corporate education, and leadership development.

    Music by Mikhail Smusev from Pixabay

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    • 41 min
    Program Note – A Change of Format

    Program Note – A Change of Format

    Program Note - Change of format.

    Previous episodes have been based on a single episode for a single principle.

    Future episodes will be based on a single episode for a group of principles in a single theme.

    If you have actionable feedback or suggestions, or just want to tell us what we’re doing right - please let us know at podcast@neoluxconsulting.com.


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    Daniele Catalanotto is a service design practitioner, the author of the Service Design Principles series of books, and the founder of the Swiss Innovation Academy

    Guy Martin has worked with global companies and startups in a wide range of roles, including service delivery, corporate education, and leadership development.

    Music by Mikhail Smusev from Pixabay

    We support

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    A production of Neolux Consulting

    • 2 min

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