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Conversations hosted by Joe Walker. As featured in The Australian Financial Review, ABC News, The Daily Telegraph, MacroBusiness, and Pedestrian.tv. (Formerly 'The Jolly Swagmen Podcast' hosted by Angus and Joe.)

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Conversations hosted by Joe Walker. As featured in The Australian Financial Review, ABC News, The Daily Telegraph, MacroBusiness, and Pedestrian.tv. (Formerly 'The Jolly Swagmen Podcast' hosted by Angus and Joe.)

    #86: The Life and Times of a Thoroughly liberal Prime Minister - Malcolm Turnbull

    #86: The Life and Times of a Thoroughly liberal Prime Minister - Malcolm Turnbull

    Malcolm Turnbull was Australia's 29th Prime Minister.

    Show notes
    Selected links

    • Follow Malcolm Turnbull: Website | Twitter
    • A Bigger Picture, by Malcolm Turnbull
    • Malcolm's speech at the 2010 Deakin Lectures
    • Malcolm's speech at the 2010 BZE Stationary Energy Plan launch
    • 'Condolence on the Death of Robert Hughes', 2012 speech by Malcolm Turnbull
    • Malcolm's 2015 speech challenging Tony Abbott's leadership
    • The Fiery Chariot, by Lucille Iremonger
    • Reflections on the Revolution in France, by Edmund Burke
    • The Case for Conservatism, by Quintin Hogg
    • The Reluctant Republic, by Malcolm Turnbull
    • Fighting For the Republic, by Malcolm Turnbull
    • Constitutional Advancement in a Frozen Continent: Essays in honour of George Winterton
    • 'An Alternative Republic Proposal', Anne Twomey's 2015 article in the ALJ
    • Skin in the Game, by Nassim Taleb
    • Antifragile, by Nassim Taleb

    Topics discussed

    • Which of Malcolm's speeches is he most proud of? 9:52
    • Malcolm's childhood. 12:51
    • Burkean Conservatism. 20:20
    • How do governments know when they're reforming too quickly or too slowly? 26:11
    • Resolving the core tension in the Australian Republican Movement. 42:59
    • Same-sex marriage. 48:48
    • The Minority Rule. 52:19
    • Is the Liberal Party philosophically tenable? 59:35
    • How does Malcolm assess prospective tech investments? 1:04:24
    • Malcolm's intellectual shift on China. 1:07:19
    • Malcolm's struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts. 1:11:42
    • Antifragility. 1:15:48

    • 1 hr 22 min
    #85: How To Put The Economy Into A Coma - Chris Edmond & Steve Hamilton

    #85: How To Put The Economy Into A Coma - Chris Edmond & Steve Hamilton

    Chris Edmond and Steve Hamilton are Australian economists.

    Show notes
    Selected links

    • Follow Chris Edmond: Website | Twitter
    • Follow Steve Hamilton: Website | Twitter
    • 'A Rush Back to 'Normal' Would Be the Blunder of the Century', WIRED's interview of Larry Summers
    • 'Impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions to reduce COVID-19 mortality and healthcare demand', Imperial College London paper by Neil Ferguson et al
    • 'How the recession we have to have can be sharp but short', The Australian Financial Review article by Steve Hamilton and Stan Veuger
    • 'Coronavirus: payroll subsidy will save the economy', The Australian article by Chris Edmond and Bruce Preston

    Topics discussed

    • What happens to an economy when non-essential workers are told to stay home? 9:22
    • The false choice between health and economic outcomes. 20:53
    • How long do lockdowns need to last? 36:39
    • Are Australia's lockdowns hard enough? 43:46
    • What does pandemic-appropriate fiscal stimulus look like? 46:29
    • Is this the end of surplus fetishism? 59:45
    • JobKeeper. 1:06:44
    • Will Australia see further rounds of stimulus? 1:19:21
    • Is the financial economy healthy? 1:22:33
    • Which one piece of advice would Steve and Chris give to the Australian Government? 1:26:26

    • 1 hr 31 min
    #84: The Price Of Uncertainty - Chris Joye

    #84: The Price Of Uncertainty - Chris Joye

    Chris Joye is Founder and Co-Chief Investments Officer at Coolabah Capital Investments. He is also a Contributing Editor with The Australian Financial Review.

    • 2 hrs 10 min
    #83: How An Italian Town Conquered Coronavirus - Andrea Crisanti

    #83: How An Italian Town Conquered Coronavirus - Andrea Crisanti

    Andrea Crisanti is a Professor of Microbiology at the University of Padua. He is part of the research team that eradicated coronavirus in Vo, a town in northern Italy.

    Show notes
    Selected links

    • Follow Andrea: Website
    • Johns Hopkins University's coronavirus dashboard
    • Data on testing by country
    • Marc Lipsitch's 18 March STAT article

    Topics discussed

    • The Italian crisis. 8:22
    • Why has Lombardy become an epicentre of coronavirus? 9:50
    • How does the situation in Veneto compare to that in Lombardy? 11:06
    • How did Andrea become involved in the Vo experiment? 11:51
    • What is the process for identifying infection people in Veneto? 17:20
    • What is the R0 for asymptomatic people? 20:25
    • What is the strategy employed at Vo? 24:32
    • Is there still time for Australia and the US to implement the strategy used at Vo? 25:21
    • Does the Vo strategy need to be implemented in full in order to be successful? 28:05
    • Why have some Asian countries been better at controlling the virus than Western countries? 28:47
    • Is the Vo strategy scalable? 29:43
    • How should we think about the prospects of future waves of the virus? 30:34

    • 33 min
    #82: A (New) Darwinian Left - Peter Singer (Live in Melbourne)

    #82: A (New) Darwinian Left - Peter Singer (Live in Melbourne)

    Peter Singer is the world's most influential living philosopher.

    • 2 hrs 2 min
    #81: In The Foothills Of A Pandemic - Yaneer Bar-Yam

    #81: In The Foothills Of A Pandemic - Yaneer Bar-Yam

    Yaneer Bar-Yam is a physicist and the founding president of the New England Complex Systems Institute.

    Show notes
    Selected links

    • Follow Yaneer: Website | Twitter
    • Endcoronavirus.org
    • Dynamics of Complex Systems, by Yaneer Bar-Yam
    • Making Things Work, by Yaneer Bar-Yam
    • 'Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)', research by Max Roser and Hannah Ritchie
    • Powers of Ten YouTube video
    • 'An Introduction to Complex Systems Science and Its Applications', 2019 paper by Alexander Siegenfeld and Yaneer Bar-Yam
    • 'The Architecture of Complexity', 1962 paper by Herbert Simon
    • 'Science and Complexity', 1948 paper by Warren Weaver
    • 'More is Different', 1972 paper by Phil Anderson
    • Scale, by Geoffrey West
    • Johns Hopkins University coronavirus interactive map
    • 'Systemic Risk of Pandemic via Novel Pathogens -- Coronavirus: Note', January 2020 note by Nassim Taleb, Yaneer Bar-Yam, and Joe Norman
    • The Square And The Tower, by Niall Ferguson
    • 'Long-range interaction and evolutionary stability in a predator-prey system', 2006 paper by Erik Rauch and Yaneer Bar-Yam
    • 'Transition to Extinction', 2016 article by Yaneer Bar-Yam
    • 'Nonpharmaceutical Interventions Implemented by US Cities During the 1918-1919 Influenza Pandemic', 2007 paper by Howard Markel et al
    • 'Strategies for mitigating an influenza pandemic', 2006 paper by Neil Ferguson et al
    • Join the fellowship of the doers: necsivolunteers@gmail.com

    Topics discussed

    • Yaneer's background and parents. 11:39
    • Powers of Ten. 12:06
    • Highlights from Yaneer's time as an MIT student. 15:29
    • The role of chance in our lives. 21:28
    • What is "complexity"? 25:42
    • Complex systems. 30:23
    • Emergence. 37:06
    • Phase transitions. 44:26
    • Self-organization. 49:48
    • Universality. 55:12
    • Applying complex systems science to the Arab Spring. 1:03:13
    • Taking stock of the coronavirus epidemic. 1:12:47
    • What is the current best estimate for the coronavirus' R0? 1:13:39
    • Fat-tailedness and super-spreaders. 1:17:13
    • What is the coronavirus' fatality rate? 1:21:45
    • Will the coronavirus obey seasonality? 1:26:33
    • Why are historical base rates -- for example of Spanish influenza -- of limited use in forecasting the spread and impact of coronavirus? 1:28:08
    • The risks of increased global transportation. 1:28:56
    • Which details should we focus on and which details should we ignore in the spread of the coronavirus? 1:36:58
    • What approaches do governments need to take to stop the virus from spreading? 1:39:24
    • Will western governments take the dramatic steps needed to prevent the spread of the coronavirus? 1:48:15
    • If our governments fail to prevent a pandemic, what steps do we need to take as individuals? 1:53:13
    • How can people volunteer their efforts to stop the virus from spreading? 2:04:30

    • 2 hrs 9 min

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