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Conversations hosted by Joe Walker. As featured in The Australian Financial Review, ABC News, The Daily Telegraph, MacroBusiness, and Pedestrian.tv. (Formerly 'The Jolly Swagmen Podcast' hosted by Angus and Joe.)

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Conversations hosted by Joe Walker. As featured in The Australian Financial Review, ABC News, The Daily Telegraph, MacroBusiness, and Pedestrian.tv. (Formerly 'The Jolly Swagmen Podcast' hosted by Angus and Joe.)

    #88: Radical Uncertainty - Mervyn King

    #88: Radical Uncertainty - Mervyn King

    Mervyn King was Governor of the Bank of England from 2003 to 2013.

    • 1 hr 46 min
    #87: The Doyen Of Economics Podcasting On Death, Lockdown, And The Art Of Socratic Dialogue - Russ Roberts

    #87: The Doyen Of Economics Podcasting On Death, Lockdown, And The Art Of Socratic Dialogue - Russ Roberts

    Russ Roberts is an economist and the host of EconTalk.

    Show notes
    Selected links

    • Follow Russ Roberts: Website | Twitter
    • EconTalk
    • Macroeconomic Patterns and Stories, by Ed Leamer
    • Fooled By Randomness, by Nassim Taleb
    • Systemic Risk of Pandemic Via Novel Pathogens -- Coronavirus', paper by Joe Norman, Yaneer Bar-Yam, and Nassim Taleb
    • 'To philosophize is to learn how to die', essay by Montaigne
    • How Adam Smith Can Change Your Life, by Russ Roberts

    Topics discussed

    • When and how did EconTalk begin? 8:55
    • Has interviewing over 750 people made Russ a better or more effective person? 13:59
    • How to really understand an idea. 32:00
    • What has Russ learned from Nassim Taleb? 35:43
    • The Precautionary Principle. 42:03
    • The lockdown dilemma. 48:38
    • The Precautionary Principle again. 1:11:52
    • Is Russ afraid of death? 1:18:49
    • What has Russ done to improve his craft as an interviewer? 1:27:18
    • Where was Russ born and what did his parents do? 1:48:21
    • Why did Russ study economics? 1:49:52
    • Narrative economics. 1:51:13
    • Who are the most important economists for non-economists to know? 1:57:12
    • How does Russ think about what he does? 2:02:31
    • Vipassana meditation. 2:06:26
    • When would Russ recommend economics as an undergraduate degree? 2:17:18
    • Adam Smith's distinction between being loved and being lovely. 2:21:14

    • 2 hrs 24 min
    #86: The Life and Times of a Thoroughly liberal Prime Minister - Malcolm Turnbull

    #86: The Life and Times of a Thoroughly liberal Prime Minister - Malcolm Turnbull

    Malcolm Turnbull was Australia's 29th Prime Minister.

    Show notes
    Selected links

    • Follow Malcolm Turnbull: Website | Twitter
    • A Bigger Picture, by Malcolm Turnbull
    • Malcolm's speech at the 2010 Deakin Lectures
    • Malcolm's speech at the 2010 BZE Stationary Energy Plan launch
    • 'Condolence on the Death of Robert Hughes', 2012 speech by Malcolm Turnbull
    • Malcolm's 2015 speech challenging Tony Abbott's leadership
    • The Fiery Chariot, by Lucille Iremonger
    • Reflections on the Revolution in France, by Edmund Burke
    • The Case for Conservatism, by Quintin Hogg
    • The Reluctant Republic, by Malcolm Turnbull
    • Fighting For the Republic, by Malcolm Turnbull
    • Constitutional Advancement in a Frozen Continent: Essays in honour of George Winterton
    • 'An Alternative Republic Proposal', Anne Twomey's 2015 article in the ALJ
    • Skin in the Game, by Nassim Taleb
    • Antifragile, by Nassim Taleb

    Topics discussed

    • Which of Malcolm's speeches is he most proud of? 9:52
    • Malcolm's childhood. 12:51
    • Burkean Conservatism. 20:20
    • How do governments know when they're reforming too quickly or too slowly? 26:11
    • Resolving the core tension in the Australian Republican Movement. 42:59
    • Same-sex marriage. 48:48
    • The Minority Rule. 52:19
    • Is the Liberal Party philosophically tenable? 59:35
    • How does Malcolm assess prospective tech investments? 1:04:24
    • Malcolm's intellectual shift on China. 1:07:19
    • Malcolm's struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts. 1:11:42
    • Antifragility. 1:15:48

    • 1 hr 22 min
    #85: How To Put The Economy Into A Coma - Chris Edmond & Steve Hamilton

    #85: How To Put The Economy Into A Coma - Chris Edmond & Steve Hamilton

    Chris Edmond and Steve Hamilton are Australian economists.

    Show notes
    Selected links

    • Follow Chris Edmond: Website | Twitter
    • Follow Steve Hamilton: Website | Twitter
    • 'A Rush Back to 'Normal' Would Be the Blunder of the Century', WIRED's interview of Larry Summers
    • 'Impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions to reduce COVID-19 mortality and healthcare demand', Imperial College London paper by Neil Ferguson et al
    • 'How the recession we have to have can be sharp but short', The Australian Financial Review article by Steve Hamilton and Stan Veuger
    • 'Coronavirus: payroll subsidy will save the economy', The Australian article by Chris Edmond and Bruce Preston

    Topics discussed

    • What happens to an economy when non-essential workers are told to stay home? 9:22
    • The false choice between health and economic outcomes. 20:53
    • How long do lockdowns need to last? 36:39
    • Are Australia's lockdowns hard enough? 43:46
    • What does pandemic-appropriate fiscal stimulus look like? 46:29
    • Is this the end of surplus fetishism? 59:45
    • JobKeeper. 1:06:44
    • Will Australia see further rounds of stimulus? 1:19:21
    • Is the financial economy healthy? 1:22:33
    • Which one piece of advice would Steve and Chris give to the Australian Government? 1:26:26

    • 1 hr 31 min
    #84: The Price Of Uncertainty - Chris Joye

    #84: The Price Of Uncertainty - Chris Joye

    Chris Joye is Founder and Co-Chief Investments Officer at Coolabah Capital Investments. He is also a Contributing Editor with The Australian Financial Review.

    • 2 hrs 10 min
    #83: How An Italian Town Conquered Coronavirus - Andrea Crisanti

    #83: How An Italian Town Conquered Coronavirus - Andrea Crisanti

    Andrea Crisanti is a Professor of Microbiology at the University of Padua. He is part of the research team that eradicated coronavirus in Vo, a town in northern Italy.

    Show notes
    Selected links

    • Follow Andrea: Website
    • Johns Hopkins University's coronavirus dashboard
    • Data on testing by country
    • Marc Lipsitch's 18 March STAT article

    Topics discussed

    • The Italian crisis. 8:22
    • Why has Lombardy become an epicentre of coronavirus? 9:50
    • How does the situation in Veneto compare to that in Lombardy? 11:06
    • How did Andrea become involved in the Vo experiment? 11:51
    • What is the process for identifying infection people in Veneto? 17:20
    • What is the R0 for asymptomatic people? 20:25
    • What is the strategy employed at Vo? 24:32
    • Is there still time for Australia and the US to implement the strategy used at Vo? 25:21
    • Does the Vo strategy need to be implemented in full in order to be successful? 28:05
    • Why have some Asian countries been better at controlling the virus than Western countries? 28:47
    • Is the Vo strategy scalable? 29:43
    • How should we think about the prospects of future waves of the virus? 30:34

    • 33 min

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