20 episodes

The New Normal: conversations between hosts Tess McCabe and Emma Clark Gratton (plus regular special guests) about balancing work, life, creativity and sanity while parenting. From Melbourne, Australia, Emma and Tess leave very few parenting issues undiscussed.

The New Normal Podcast Tess McCabe and Emma Clark Gratton

    • Kids & Family
    • 4.8 • 26 Ratings

The New Normal: conversations between hosts Tess McCabe and Emma Clark Gratton (plus regular special guests) about balancing work, life, creativity and sanity while parenting. From Melbourne, Australia, Emma and Tess leave very few parenting issues undiscussed.

    Quarantine 2020 Bonus Episode!

    Quarantine 2020 Bonus Episode!

    So. We know we said last year that we were too busy to keep doing regular episodes of the podcast, but that was before a pandemic rolled into town and our busy social lives (haha) were scaled right back. I mean... if there is ONE THING you want to arrange a playdate with your favourite mum friend to gossip about then isn't it how the world has been, like, grounded indefinitely? 

    In this special episode of the pod, Emma has some very cute 5-month-old news... plus we talk out all the highs and lows of staying at home with kids underfoot during COVID-19, as well as our best-of-2019/20 books, podcasts, shows, and more. It's like we never left your pod feed, and also never improved our remote-recording sound quality (soz... we blame the virus). Enjoy!

    • 1 hr
    Our final episode!

    Our final episode!

    All good things must come to an end. Yes, after a hopeful return to the pod earlier this year, the struggle of the juggle has won and we're setting our podcast aside - happy in the knowledge that we had a good five (FIVE!) years in your ears.
    From the bottom of our hearts, we'd like to thank all of you who took the time with us to laugh, cry, fist-pump-in-the-air, do kegels, commiserate and celebrate all the highs and lows that come with parenting.
    To those of you who we call dear friends; to those who we met through this podcast; to the guests who bravely shared your stories; and to those who simply liked, commented or listened in: THANK YOU! ALL OF YOU were loved and appreciated by us on this podcasting journey. We hoped we helped you feel less alone, or less ridiculous in your parenting overthinking, or at least recommended a good book or show or podcast or a way to get your kid to eat more broccoli.
    Of course, we're not disappearing completely.
    Here's where we will be now...
    Tess' books: www.creativemindshq.com
    Tess' eNewsletter, Sylloge (good recommends for reads/listens): www.creativemindshq.com/sylloge
    Emma's blog: worsthousebeststreet.com
    Emma/Lee's furniture business: grattondesign.com.au
    And on Instagram:
    @tessmccabe@emmaclarkgratton
    Future podcasting adventures by either of us will be announced via the TNN feed, so don't worry about unsubscribing (unless you're Marie-Kondo'ing your feed, which we understand and applaud you for. Digital clutter is real, y'all.)
    Big love, everyone. Keep going, you're doing great. xoxo T&E

    • 9 min
    72: That time both our husbands had serious accidents :~{

    72: That time both our husbands had serious accidents :~{

    We're back for 2019, after a rather strange and frequently stressful end to 2018! Yes, both Emma and Tess' spouses went under the knife late last year after sudden yet unrelated accidents (just a few weeks apart!). In this ep we digest the aftermath and take stock of what we learned. And we make up for lost time by sharing our summer reads and TV recommendations, PLUS, yet another (hopefully the last) update to Tess' Paid Parental Leave miniseries.
    Tess' Paid Parental Leave (the background and November update)
    TNN Episode 34TNN Episode 40November update (on Tess' instagram)
    Reading
    Becoming Michelle Obama
    Bad Blood by John Carreyrou
    The Female Persuasion by Meg Wolitzer
    The Arsonist by Chloe Hooper
    The Lost Man by Jane Harper
    The Power by Naomi Alderman
     
    Listening
    The Dropout (Theranos podcast)
     
    Watching
    Bluey (for kids)
    Barry (NOT for kids)
    Last Chance Hotel (on iView)
    Friends from College (on Netflix)
    Party Down
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    PS...
    We know our audio recording quality is a bit lacking, but if you love the content, give us some stars on iTunes if you can? What else is there to do when you're forced to sit on the sidelines during the kids' swimming lesson... ;) xx E&T
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    thenewnormalpodcast.comworsthousebeststreet.comtessmccabe.com.au
    Insta:@thenewnormalpodcast@tessmccabe@emmaclarkgratton
    Facey:facebook.com/thenewnormalpodcast

    • 51 min
    Episode 71: Victorian Small Business Commissioner Judy O'Connell has two sets of twins

    Episode 71: Victorian Small Business Commissioner Judy O'Connell has two sets of twins

    Our newest podcast is with Victoria’s Small Business Commissioner Judy O’Connell who has TWO SETS OF TWINS *faints*.
    This basically qualifies her to run the whole damn country, in our opinion.
    Judy has had a long career in the public service, including as Assistant Commissioner at the Australian Tax Office, where she set up an in-house childcare centre. Throughout her career, Judy has been a champion for flexible work for both mums and dads, and for integrating family life with career.
    She also told us all about the cool things the Victorian Small Business Commission does, including help with dispute resolution, tax requirements, mediation and advocating for small businesses.

    • 33 min
    Episode 70: Are Nerf Guns a good idea? Plus our recent book and internet recommendations

    Episode 70: Are Nerf Guns a good idea? Plus our recent book and internet recommendations

    So we've decided to change the focus of the podcast to be the Leigh Sales Appreciation Society. Just jokes, but seriously we do spend a fair bit of time this episode talking about Australia's leading current affairs anchor and the new book she's written about overcoming trauma. Other cheery topics include breast self-examinations and whether or not our kids should play with toy guns. Happy listening! 
    Reading:
    The Nowhere Child by Christian White
    Leigh Sales’ interview in Fairfax papers
    Any Ordinary Day by Leigh Sales
    Practising Simplicity (blog)
    The Mental Load by Emma (not our Emma, a french Emma)
    Watching:
    Brooklyn 99
    The Americans 
    Touch Your Tits 
    Listening:
    ABC Kids News Time
    Parent hack notes:
    BioCeuticals Ultra Potent-C powder is the one Tess' kids like more than other brands
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    THANKS for the reviews and star ratings on iTunes! xx

    • 38 min
    Episode 69: Maryanne Moodie on entrepreneurism, creativity and building a community

    Episode 69: Maryanne Moodie on entrepreneurism, creativity and building a community

    Finding a way to turn a creative passion into a profitable business can be tricky, especially when you throw a family into the mix. Enter Maryanne Moodie, Insta-famous weaver and teacher, a magical unicorn who has managed to develop her creative expression into a thriving business and community. 
    If you’re a crafty type who enjoys a bit of interiors porn, there’s a strong chance you’ve seen Maryanne’s work. Her gorgeous textured weavings have inspired thousands of people to pick up some yarn and a loom, through her online and in-person weaving classes and her book On the Loom.
     We explore Maryanne’s story from schoolteacher to entrepreneurial weaver, including how she managed moving to New York City for her husband’s dream job with their one-year-old son in tow.
     Maryanne also shares a couple of great parenting hacks, including the toothbrushing podcast Chompers, the bedtime meditation for kid’s Bedtime Explorers.
     

    • 47 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
26 Ratings

26 Ratings

laura wil ,

A bit addicted

I love this podcast. It balances great discussions on parenthood as well as great leads to all things film, literature and what’s happening. I have become so reliant on the recommendations that I rarely go anywhere else.

lvdmelb ,

Love the content - sound isn’t amazing

I really really enjoy this podcast - the interviewees and content is superb! My only quibble is the sound quality is challenging (need to turn up and down the volume regularly) and the interviewers style (the constant acknowledgment of the interviewees with “yeahs”, “ahhhh”, “totally” and “mmms”) is annoying and distracts from the brilliant content.

veronasmooth ,

Great company

Love listening to Tess and Emma’s chat about real life stuff. Excellent , book and podcast recommendations and parenting hacks. Their guests have fascinating stories to tell, usually with a creative focus and the common theme of balancing work, kids, life in general. A very real, unpretentious and often uplifting podcast that reminds you that you are in good parenting company.

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