36 episodes

The Secret Life of Writers is a series of rambling conversations with some of the world’s most interesting and visionary writers and creative icons about how they got where they are, what they’re working on now, and how they balance art and life. These warm and personal interviews take you behind-the-scenes of the writing world. Hosted by Jemma Birrell, formerly of the Sydney Writers' Festival and Shakespeare & Company in Paris, and now the Creative Director at Tablo. Subscribe to hear a new episode (released on a Thursday every few weeks).

For writers, readers and anyone who loves great life stories.

The Secret Life of Writers by Tablo Jemma Birrell, Tablo Publishing

    • Arts
    • 4.9 • 46 Ratings

The Secret Life of Writers is a series of rambling conversations with some of the world’s most interesting and visionary writers and creative icons about how they got where they are, what they’re working on now, and how they balance art and life. These warm and personal interviews take you behind-the-scenes of the writing world. Hosted by Jemma Birrell, formerly of the Sydney Writers' Festival and Shakespeare & Company in Paris, and now the Creative Director at Tablo. Subscribe to hear a new episode (released on a Thursday every few weeks).

For writers, readers and anyone who loves great life stories.

    Steve Toltz on writing fear, Here Goes Nothing, and nailing why we do what we do

    Steve Toltz on writing fear, Here Goes Nothing, and nailing why we do what we do

    Featuring: Steve Toltz's new book Here Goes Nothing and why it’s set in the afterlife; using time in the writing process like a painter uses light; Steve’s spiritual home; juggling editorial notes from different countries; the overarching project of Steve’s work; a short reading; on writing humour and hilarious characters (who are also very entertaining to write); his experience in writers' rooms, how Steve first got an agent; his play that didn't eventuate; what's next and some wonderful reading recommendations.

    ‘A writer uses time like a painter uses light - without time you can’t even see what it is that you’ve done.’

    ‘Years go by without ever showing anyone a word…I get it as good as I can possibly get it without burying it in the garden for six months'

    ‘I don’t feel like I’ve ever really been in a literary world that much’

    On editorial notes: ‘There’s always the clear understanding that you can take them or leave them...I end up always taking about 80% of the notes because they’re always generally great.'

    • 50 min
    Claire Messud on A Dream Life, self-deception and the pursuit of truth

    Claire Messud on A Dream Life, self-deception and the pursuit of truth

    Featuring: writing as a strange quixotic thing; how Claire was first published; her grandfather's memoir; Claire's childhood years in Sydney ‘the light, the air, the birds’; writing A Dream Life in The American Library in Paris; when fantasy keeps us alive and when it becomes something pernicious; on writing complex, alive characters; literary and familial influences; writing about adolescence; what Claire’s working on now; memories of Robert Silvers. With two readings.

    ‘I’m always very interested in deception and self-deception, this is a life-long thing.’

    ‘Fiction like life is a balance between freedom and constraint, and you do need some constraints.’

    ‘For the most part my work has not been autobiographical, or only elements have. It’s almost like a coat hanger, from which you make papier maché.’

    ‘If something’s too close to life then I don’t feel free.’

    ‘One has a different self in each language.’

    • 1 hr 5 min
    Hannah Kent on the freedom and delight in writing Devotion, not being shackled to history and her writing life

    Hannah Kent on the freedom and delight in writing Devotion, not being shackled to history and her writing life

    Featuring: Hannah's earlier books Burial Rites and The Good People; the landscape in her life and work; the messiness of first drafts; on writing Devotion, a modern novel that's 'a queer love story'; celebrating the light; returning to that place of play; balancing imagination and research; the Prussian and Lutheran history of South Australia; the occult; exploring places of absence and silence; the experience of screenwriting; what working at Kill Your Darlings taught Hannah; a love of poetry.

    • 57 min
    Charlotte Wood on taking out the lies, The Luminous Solution and following the heat

    Charlotte Wood on taking out the lies, The Luminous Solution and following the heat

    Featuring: When Charlotte committed to writing; overriding fear and doubt; allowing it to happen; the grumpy struggle, despair and the luminous solution; the elation when the solution or connection suddenly appears; Susan Sontag's rules for writing; creating personal rituals around writing; trusting instinct and intuition; not shutting down ideas that don't make sense; the way the book will tell you how to write it; following the heat; on being 'relatable'; the qualities of a good sentence; showing up for the ideas to come; on Georgia Blain to whom Charlotte dedicated the book.

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Sinéad Gleeson on the power of your own story

    Sinéad Gleeson on the power of your own story

    'To commit to art is to commit to living.'
    'I do believe in agency and I do believe in the power of the story and the power of your own story.'

    Featuring: the Irish storytelling tradition; writing about illness; resilience; the agency in telling your own story; books and music as saviours; the artists whose lives and art were beacons of hope; advice from John Banville; on interviewing; watching New York go by with George Saunders; how to decide what goes into an anthology; a love of the short story; the elasticity of the essay; overriding fear; ghosts in the family; the novel-in-progress, and the upcoming music anthology Sinéad has edited with Kim Gordon.

    • 1 hr 9 min
    Anna Gerber on playful storytelling, channeling Sylvia Beach and bringing creatives together

    Anna Gerber on playful storytelling, channeling Sylvia Beach and bringing creatives together

    Featuring: what Anna learned from Sylvia Beach and carried into her life; her first taste of creative freedom; having a visual memory; how mistakes are positive; her first book All Messed Up; bringing artists and designers together; creating the publisher Visual Editions and the visually astounding books that were published; writing a love letter to Jonathan Safran Foer; pushing the boundaries of what a book can be; reader out-louders at V&A; storytelling in Ace hotels and live experiences; working with Google Creative Lab; playing with the familiar and not familiar; using technology as a tool to tell stories in a way that’s delightful; meeting audiences where they are already; looking at scent, and working with The Institute for Art and Olfaction in Los Angeles.

    • 1 hr 5 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
46 Ratings

46 Ratings

carobaum ,

Wise Solomon

LOVED everything about the conversation w Andrew Solomon. Covered a lot of ground thanks to Jemma’s very informed but relaxed questioning so that the interview flowed like a real conversation. Moving , wise and full of insights, it showcases Solomon’s erudition, empathy and elegance. A highlight of this excellent series.
Caro B

BlackKnight123 ,

More please!

Jemma’s recent interviews with Jhumpa Lahiri and Nikki Gemmel have been fantastic. I gained so many insights into their lives and their writing process. The questions are thoughtful and Jemma’s manner is so calm and gentle. I’ve been introduced to writers I’ve not heard of before too and genres I’m keen to explore, like nature writing. Looking forward to the next episode!
Zohra

bookmuncher22 ,

So rich!

Worth listening to every one. A joy.

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