Let's face it... change is hard. Yet we're living in a world where change is happening every day whether we like it or not. Nic and Waz talk to a guest with a difference on today's episode and while he's very much from a blue collar background, as a biodynamic farmer, Charlie Arnott isn't your typical tradie! Charlie has transitioned from an old model of traditional 'extractive' farming practices to a regenerative agriculture model. This has meant some tough lessons and a need to let go of old ways of doing things. Something many of you can identify with!