The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill Michael Mogill

Feeling crushed by life's relentless unpredictability? Brace yourself as we expose the brutal challenges of navigating the unknown and unveil the game changing strategies that will forge unbreakable resilience in the face of chaos.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill are tearing into:

The razor-thin line between possessing all the information and taking decisive, proactive action


The critical techniques to respond with cold, hard logic instead of succumbing to emotional turmoil in high-stakes scenarios

How to dominate uncertainty with unwavering confidence and crystal-clear clarity 



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Show Notes:

01:52 – Michael Mogill’s shout-out to YOU
03:20 – How to get your question answered on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
05:08 – Risks to consider and prioritize when making critical business decisions in uncertain times
07:45 – Ray Dalio’s philosophies on the expected value equation and probability standpoints
09:55 – Why indecisiveness is weakness
12:11 – How to condition yourself to respond logically rather than reacting emotionally
14:06 – How to focus on what you can control (and accept what you can’t)
17:49 – Why life’s greatest gifts come from experiences of adversity
19:23 – How Michael Mogill approaches uncertainty in his own business
21:56 – How to prepare for a Black Swan event
24:13 – Why investing in preparedness is better than investing in prevention

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Links & Resources

YouTube


Principles by Ray Dalio


Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl


The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod

Black Swan Events


Charlie Munger 


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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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Think you know how to motivate people? Think again.

Susan Fowler, renowned leadership consultant, and the best-selling author of Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work…and What Does has spent the last two decades refining the application of motivation science in Fortune 50 companies to small organizations in almost every industry imaginable around the world.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Susan will teach you:

Why attempting to motivate people is a losing proposition

The psychological needs that all high-performing team members have

How to create a working environment that enables you and your team to thrive


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Show Notes:

02:51 – Why Susan Fowler wrote Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does
04:47 – The real definition of motivation
05:31 – Why attempting to motivate people is a losing proposition, no matter your resources
06:49 – The difference between optimal and sub-optimal motivation
10:19 – Why certain incentives can be the “junk food” of motivation
13:45 – The three psychological needs that all people have (autonomy, relatedness, and competence)
19:39 – The importance of providing choices
22:40 – How to foster the physiological need for connection in a working environment
24:11 – How to determine what your and your team members’ values are
27:46 – What to do when your values as a leader are not aligned with your team members’ values
30:18 – Why all of our values are subject to evolution
31:00 – How to make your team more competent
34:48 – Why asking someone “What motivates you?” is a bad idea
38:22 – Why money does motivate people, but not in the way that you think
43:41 – Why leaders should ask what they want for their people (not just what they want from them)
47:33 – How to overcome “Quiet Quitting” and create an environment where people want to stay
50:44 – What being a game changer means to Susan Fowler

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Links & Resources


Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does by Susan Fowler

YouTube

B.F. Skinner

Operant Conditioning


Master Your Motivation: Three Scientific Truths for Achieving Your Goals by Susan Fowler

Self-determination theory

Dr. Edward Deci

Dr. Richard Ryan

IBM

Garry Ridge

Dr. Jacques Forest

Drea Zigarmi

Mark Cuban

Anne Brafford

The Prevalence of Substance Use and Other Mental Health Concerns Among American Attorneys

Binge Drinking by Occupation Groups among Currently Employed U.S. Adults

2022 Report on the State of the Legal Market: Despite a strong year, numerous & growing challenges confront law firms

Institute For Well-Being In Law

McKinsey & Company: Winning back your workers


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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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Dr. Ayelet Fishbach, the Jeffrey Breakenridge Keller Professor of Behavioral Science and Marketing at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, is an expert in driving behavioral change. She's even authored a book on the subject.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Dr. Fishbach delves into the realities of behavioral change, discussing:

The distinction between self-control and willpower

The influence of our surroundings on our actions

How setbacks and failures can boost our motivation



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Show Notes:

02:34 – Why Dr. Ayelet Fishbach wrote Get It Done
03:32 – The essential ingredients to successful behavior change
05:02 – Why your goals should feel more like aspirations than chores
07:02 – The difference between “Do” goals and “Do Not” goals
09:19 – The dangers of setting abstract goals
11:00 – The power of numerical targets
13:23 – How to know when your goal is too optimistic
15:32 – When it makes sense to use an incentive structure to support goal achievement
18:06 – How to determine if you’re using the right incentive
20:43 – How intrinsic motivation impacts the likelihood of achieving your goals
24:38 – The Goal Gradient Effect (how progress impacts our motivation)
27:45 – Why you should keep the “middle” phase as short as possible
30:31 – How to reframe negative feedback as an effective means of making progress
34:25 – Applying Angela Duckworth’s research on grit to motivation and achieving goals
36:35 – The role of self-control in sticking to your goals
39:39 – How your willpower and your environment impact your self-control
43:04 – How to juggle multiple goals
46:12 – The role of patience in sticking with and achieving goals
48:01 – How your heroes and anti-role models can motivate you to achieve your goals
52:05 – What being a game changer means to Dr. Ayelet Fishbach
 

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Links & Resources


Get It Done by Dr. Ayelet Fishbach

Angela Duckworth


Grit by Angela Duckworth 


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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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Are you grinding in your office, feeling productive, and then looking up to realize it’s 6pm and today’s job is nowhere near done?

Got a team in place to execute the day-to-day work but their quality and results are far from consistent?

Or are you a visionary leader chock full of ideas but just can’t get your team to move fast enough and actually act on them?

If you answered “Yes” to any of these questions, this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Jessica Mogill — Head of Coaching Strategy and operational mastermind — is for you.

In just 25 minutes, you’ll gain the insights you need to move from “How?” to “DONE!”
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Key Quotes:

“‘Urgency fixes problems — importance solves them for good.”

“Inspect what you expect from your team.”

“Greatness lies in effective implementation, not just vision.”



In this episode, you’ll learn:

How to determine what projects and tasks are really worth your time

Why creating a process is half the battle

How to execute relentlessly and ensure nothing falls through the cracks

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Show Notes:

03:06 – Why you, as the law firm owner, do NOT have to manage processes and operations
04:29 – How to streamline your workflow and focus on high-impact activities
06:55 – Why Post-it Notes are not a scalable project management tool
08:17 – How to shift from a task-management mindset to a priority-management mindset
10:14 – How to standardize client interactions and ensure every client receives the same level of care and attention
13:04 – How to keep a pulse on your firm’s caseload with thousands of active cases
16:41 – How to empower your team to turn your ideas into executed operations and results
19:31 – Why you must set clear expectations before handing off a project 
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Links & Resources

Evernote

Todoist

ClickUp

Slack

Walt Disney

Salesforce

Big Hero 6

Kolbe A™ Index

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How many of us can honestly say we're making the most out of life? Are we truly harnessing our energy every day to ensure no moment is wasted? Are we wisely investing our time, money, and health to make every second count?

Introducing Bill Perkins, a man dedicated to helping people live fully and find joy in life — before it's too late.

In this thought-provoking episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Bill and Michael explore:

How your life is the total of your experiences

The unconventional financial advice that might transform your life

Why delaying gratification could lead to your greatest regret



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Show Notes:

02:25 – Why Bill Perkins wrote Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life

04:22 – Who Die With Zero will resonate most with

06:42 – Why the things that fulfill you will change over time

08:28 – How Bill built his financial model (a counterfactual regret minimization algorithm)

10:08 – Why delayed gratification at its extreme is no gratification

12:02 – The power of memory dividends and the ROI on experiences

15:50 – The balance between investing in the future and investing in your well-being today

23:34 – Bill’s message to all the people who say “I love my work, I don’t want to retire.”

32:17 – Economists say “Spend,” and financial planners say “Save.” – who’s right?

33:47 – How to rationalize insurance without sacrificing your present-day fulfillment

39:24 – Why you probably don’t need as much money as you think to fund a great life

45:44 – What a day in the life of Bill Perkins looks like

50:33 – What being a game changer means to Bill Perkins
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Links & Resources


Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life by Bill Perkins

Winnie the Pooh

Wall Street

Ironman Marathon

Mount Kilimanjaro


The Big Bang Theory (Television show)

Seinfeld

Game of Thrones

Stephen Curry

JP Morgan


DocuSign 


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Leadership transcends individual contributions. It’s about deliberate influence and driving results through others. 

How can leaders effectively balance empowering teams with upholding high standards?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill discuss:

Strategies to empower middle managers for delegation and growth

The role of termination in defining your law firm’s culture

Why successful organizations operate as cohesive teams rather than individual entities



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Show Notes:

04:37 – How to empower a manager to elevate when they struggle to delegate

08:05 – How to advance your career by setting others up for success

09:28 – How to balance a supportive culture with a results-driven culture

11:03 – Why business is a team sport

12:08 – How to run a cost/benefit analysis on your team members

13:19 – What happens when you keep a high-performing yet toxic team member around

15:55 – How to navigate communicating a below-average performance review to a once high-performing team member

17:32 – What your law firm can learn from Netflix when it comes to HR

19:23 – Why the NFL is the ultimate business model

21:27 – Why change is the only constant (grow or die)

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Links & Resources

LASIK eye surgery

David Goggins

John Maxwell

Mark Lanier

Michael Jordan

Kobe Bryant

Wayne Gretzky

Netflix


No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings


Cy Wakeman

NFL

The Heisman Trophy


iPad 


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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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