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In a recent 60 minutes interview, Pope Francis sparked controversy when he claimed that humans are fundamentally good. Katelyn Beaty joins Phil and Kaitlyn to discuss the Pope's comments, and why our theology needs to include both the doctrine that all humans are made in the image of God and an understanding of original sin. Also, new survey data suggests that the "Religious Nones" have plateaued and religious affiliation among Gen Z is on the rise. We discuss why this might be happening and how the "weirdness" of Christianity is what makes it appealing to so many people right now. Then Skye sits down with Sean McGever to discuss his new book, Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield. They explore how these three historical evangelical leaders navigated the morality of slavery and the lasting impact it is still having on the Church today. Plus, even priests are not immune to Florida Man Syndrome.
 
0:00 - Intro
 
1:36 - Show Starts
 
2:58 - Theme Song
 
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5:39 - Italian Island Overrun by Goats
 
10:31 - Pope Francis Calls Humans “Fundamentally Good?”
 
28:20 - Ryan Burge and the Plateauing of the Nones
 
45:57 - Florida Priest Bites Woman
 
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51:17 - Interview
 
59:56 - Opposing Slave Trade, but Not Slavery
 
1:09:47 - How Edwards, Whitfield, and Wesley Influenced Attitudes About Slavery
 
1:20:05 - Avoiding Moral Blindspots
 
1:27:12 - End Credits



Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
Alicudi: Italian Island Offers Goats Up for Adoption
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68731003
 
Pope Francis Draws Accusations of Heresy for Saying Humans are Good
https://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-draws-accusations-of-heresy-for-saying-humans-good.html
 
Ryan Burge and Nones Plateau
https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/the-nones-have-hit-a-ceiling?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=6smb2&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
 
Florida Priest Admits Biting Woman in Defense of Eucharist
https://www.ncronline.org/news/florida-priest-admits-biting-woman-last-resort-defense-save-eucharist
 
Other resources:
Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield by Sean McGever: https://a.co/d/7SrPAZu
 
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Kansas City Chiefs Kicker, Harrison Butker, recently gave a controversial commencement address at Benedictine College where he drew on some popular conservative talking points about Pride Month, Covid 19 policies, and the calling of women in the home. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the problems they had with the speech, as well as their frustrations with some of the criticism of the speech, and how Butker's views seem to have been influenced more by conservative politics than the historic Catholic position on these issues. Then, Kaitlyn sits down with Latasha Morrison to talk about her new book, "Brown Faces, White Spaces." They discuss the importance of understanding historical context to grasp the roots and impacts of systemic racism, and practical ways that churches and individuals can engage in the work of racial reconciliation. Plus, a megachurch in Texas tried to manipulate a traffic study for a stop light, and Phil thinks he has proof that News of the Butt is the best part of the podcast.
 
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0:00 - Intro
 
1:29 - Show Starts
 
2:26 - Theme Song
 
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5:11 - Megachurch Manipulates Stoplight Placement
10:49 - News of the Butt Supporters Speak Out
 
13:35 - Harrison Butker
 
23:00 - Why Did Butker’s Speech Get So Much Attention?
 
29:31 - Pope Francis Says Conservatives Have “Suicidal” Mindset
 
37:12 - Is the Media More Spiritually Formative Than the Pope?
 
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46:40 - Interview
 
48:20 - What is “Be the Bridge?”
 
55:37 - Understanding Historical Context in Discussing Racial Divide
 
59:02 - Why She Combined Personal History, Data, and the Bible in “Be the Bridge”
 
1:03:40 - How Scripture Informs Justice
 
1:14:14 - Jesus, the Suffering Servant
 
1:19:53 - Maintaining Hope for Restoration
 
1:24:48 - End Credits



Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
 
Texas Megachurch Hits the Brakes After Trying to Skew a Traffic Study: https://religionnews.com/2024/05/14/a-texas-megachurch-tried-to-fudge-a-traffic-study-to-get-a-new-light-it-did-not-end-well-josh-howerton-lakepointe-church/
 
Benedictine Sisters of Mount St. Scholastica Rebut Harrison Butker as No One Else Could:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/benedictine-sisters-mount-st-scholastica-100700734.html?
 
Pope Francis says U.S. Conservatives Have a “Suicidal Attitude”:
https://www.axios.com/2024/05/20/pope-francis-60-minutes-interview-takeaways
 
Other resources:
Be the Bridge: Pursuing God’s Heart for Racial Reconciliation: https://a.co/d/eZLQFB6
 
Brown Faces, White Spaces: Confronting Systemic Racism to Bring Healing and Restoration: https://a.co/d/bERMEXN
 
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A new iPad advertisement showing musical instruments and art supplies being crushed by a hydraulic press has triggered a backlash against Apple and provoked a wider discussion about the impact of technology on communities and creativity. Jonathan Haidt says religious kids have better mental health on average because they’re connected to incarnate congregations, and the Catholic Church disciplines an AI priest. Then, Kaitlyn talks to Matthew Niermann about the Lausanne Movement’s massive new report on global Christianity and the major trends shaping the future of the church. Also this week—beware of cicada rain!
 
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0:00 - Intro
 
0:42 - Show Starts
 
1:54 - Theme Song
 
2:16 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order
 
3:22 - World Relief - Visit https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community
 
4:13 - Catching up on learning German and the Holy Post live event
 
8:44 - Cicadas’ Powerful Urine
 
13:41- Apple Crushes Incarnation
 
23:58 - The Desire of Incarnation
 
29:01 - Jonathan Haidt and the Anxious Secular Kids
 
35:30 - An AI Priest is laicized
 
48:24 - The Church in a Hydraulic Press
 
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56:26 - Interview
 
58:03 - What is The Lausanne Movement?
 
1:02:35 - Polycentric Christianity
 
1:12:27 - What Challenges and Opportunities Come with this Shift?
 
1:20:30 - The Question of Our Era: What Does it Mean to be Human?
 
1:30:35 - End Credits



Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
Why Cicadas Power Spray Their Pee
https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/04/24/cicadas-emerge-2024-pee-mist/73423177007/
 
Rage Against the Apple Machine
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2024/may-web-only/pastor-apple-ipad-ad-apology-crush-reality.html
 
Jonathan Haidt Religion Tweet
https://twitter.com/JonHaidt/status/1773692138724655394
 
AI ‘Priest’ Sparks More Online Backlash Than Belief
https://www.ncronline.org/news/ai-priest-sparks-more-backlash-belief
 
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Lausanne Movement: https://lausanne.org/
 
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Phil is back! He gives an update about his family’s harrowing medical emergency. Then, new data shows the Democratic Party’s grip on Black Christians may be slipping. Esau McCaulley shares his take on the reason. Nancy French talks with Skye about the themes in her new memoir, “Ghosted,” including church sexual abuse, political tribalism, trauma, and her miraculous experiences with God. Also this week—another book ban backfires, and defensive driving Florida style.
 
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0:00 - Intro
 
1:38 - Show Starts
 
3:10 - Theme Song
 
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6:04 - Phil Explains the Medical Emergency
 
15:52 - The Surgery
 
24:25 - Esau’s Childhood Stomach Surgery
 
26:50 - Florida Man Rescues Friend from Alligator
 
28:14 - Florida Man Tries to Ban Bible from Schools
 
35:06 - Have Democrats Lost the Black Church?
 
49:03 - Esau’s Dream Proposal
 
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53:28 - Interview
 
55:10 - Charismatic Experiences
 
59:18 - How Did the Frenches Not End Up in MAGA?
 
1:03:48 - What Radicalized the Republican Voter Base?
 
1:08:25 - Where There Signs 20 Years Ago That Radicalization Was Coming? 
 
1:11:30 - Pro-Life Republicans Changing Their Stances?
 
1:22:20 - What’s the Future for the GOP?
 
1:33:58 - End Credits



Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
Man Runs Over Alligator with Truck to Save Neighbor from Attack
https://people.com/man-runs-over-alligator-with-truck-to-save-neighbor-from-attack-8637962#:~:text=A%20Florida%20man%20ran%20over,a%20pond%20in%20Collier%20County.
 
Florida Atheist Uses State’s New Book Banning Law to Object to the Bible
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chaz-stevens-bible-ban_n_6268e98ee4b0ea625c0e2b58
 
Have Democrats Lost the Black Church?
https://religionunplugged.com/news/2024/4/15/have-the-democrats-lost-the-black-church
 
Other resources:
 
Ghosted: an American Story by Nancy French: https://a.co/d/hwzJItt
 
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Swifties are celebrating the record-breaking release of two new albums, but some conservative Christians are not happy. They’re accusing Taylor Swift of mocking Christianity and promoting witchcraft. Our resident Swiftie, Kaitlyn Schiess, explains the controversy. Then, former presidential speechwriter and contributor to The Atlantic, Pete Wehner, talks with Skye about the future of the Republican Party. Will the Trump spell ever break? Also this week—the end of America’s monoculture, and how dumb were dinosaurs?



00 - Intro
1:03 - Show Starts
2:15 - Theme Song
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4:50 - Update on Phil
6:08 - Dinosaurs—Were They Smart?
13:00 - Is Taylor Swift Mocking Christians?
15:12 - Taylor Swift’s Bohemian Mishmash
18:12 - Artistic vs Political Usage of Biblical Language
23:13 - Taylor Swift and Kids
23:23 - Children and Public Spaces
31:02 - Portrayal vs Endorsement
35:18 - Everything is a Cult Now and 20th Century Communication Technology
40:17 - What Even is Mainstream?
44:27 - Labels and the Good Samaritan
50:14 - Choice and Community
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58:13 - Interview
1:03:48 - What Radicalized the Republican Voter Base?
1:08:25 - Where There Signs 20 Years Ago That Radicalization Was Coming? 
1:11:30 - Pro-Life Republicans Changing Their Stances?
1:22:20 - What’s the Future for the GOP?
1:33:58 - End Credits

 
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
 
T. Rex Was Probably About As Intelligent as a Crocodile
https://www.popsci.com/science/t-rex-intelligence/
 
Taylor Swift’s Religious Imagery for a Spiritually Syncretic Era
https://religionnews.com/2024/04/23/taylor-swifts-ttpd-religious-imagery-for-a-spiritually-syncretic-era/
 
Taylor Swift Mocks Christianity in Her New Album
https://www.movieguide.org/news-articles/taylor-swift-mocks-christianity-in-her-new-album.html
 
Everything’s a Cult Now
https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area/24133960/america-cult-internet-culture-end-monoculture-communication-tribalism#:~:text=Writer%20Derek%20Thompson%20on%20how,we're%20never%20going%20back.&text=The%20internet%20has%20fractured%20our,and%20habits%20of%20everyone%20online.
 
Other resources:
The Death of Politics: How to Heal Our Frayed Republic After Trump: https://a.co/d/2ute7Ua
 
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The war in Gaza has carried on for longer than expected, and David French is starting to see parallels between Israel and the US military in the Iraq War—he thinks Israel could learn from what went wrong in Iraq. Then, David and Skye discuss the student protests and how universities are handling them—what’s civil disobedience and what’s lawlessness when it comes to protest?
 
0:00 - Theme Song
 
0:17 - Episode Starts
 
1:40 - America’s Mistake in Iraq
 
10:42 - Counter insurgency’s Importance
 
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17:08 - Israel’s Place on the World Stage
 
21:08 - What Are Israel’s Goals?
 
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31:30 - Are the Pro-Palestine Protests Free Speech?
 
43:32 - What the Administrations Are Faced With
 
51:08 - Gaza Protests Vs. January 6th
 
1:02:00 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in Episode
Israel is Making the Same Mistake America Made in Iraq
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/07/opinion/israel-iraq-gaza-civilians.html



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