Does the Bible say THAT?!‪?‬ David Lester

More names. More genealogy. A lot of geography. Dave tackles the Table of Nations chronicling people groups from Shem, Ham and Japheth spreading out from the ancient near east. Dave spends a fair amount of time discussing the outlier of Nimrod being included in this genealogy. Plus, a very special guest right around the 1 hour mark of the show.



Sources for this episode:

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

*The Book of Genesis: Chapters 1-17 by Victor P. Hamilton

*The JPS Torah Commentary by Dr. Nahum M. Sama

*"...A Mighty Hunter Before the YHWH": Genesis 10:9 and the Moral-Theological Evaluation of Nimrod". Vetus Testamentum by Mary Katherine Y.H. Hom

*Nimrod the Mighty, King of Kish, King of Sumer and Akkad (Paper) by Yigal Levin





Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Louis Armstrong

The gnarly and wild chapter of Genesis chapter 9 is tackled with help from the wonderful Billie Hoard. Dave and Billie talk about the rainbow sign included in the Noahic covenant, capital punishment, drunk and naked Noah, the curse of Ham, and how the Bible can be weaponized to harm people when theology is imposed on the Bible and is not supported by the text.



Listen to Billie and Dr. Paul Hoard talk about disgust theology on The New Evangelicals: https://podcastaddict.com/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/episode/154893865



Follow Billie Hoard on social media (@billieiswriting):

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Sources used for this episode:

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

*The Book of Genesis: Chapters 1-17 by Victor P. Hamilton

*Reading Genesis by Marilynne Robinson

*Come Out My People: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook

*The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture Has Been Used And Abused in American Politics And Where We Go From Here by Kaitlyn Schiess

*The Cross and the Lynching Tree by Dr. James Cone

*From Noah's Curse to Slavery's Rationale". The New York Times by Felicia R. Lee. https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/01/arts/from-noah-s-curse-to-slavery-s-rationale.html



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Continuing on with the flood account, Dave walks listeners through God's judgment winding down. The waters begin to recede. A world is re-created. Noah sends out birds. God smells the pleasing aroma of a burnt sacrifice.



Sources used for this episode:

*The New International Commentary on the Old Testament: The Book of Genesis 1-17 by Victor P Hamilton

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

*"Julian Calendar". Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/science/Julian-calendar



Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Louis Armstrong

In this special episode which is complimentary to going through the account of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood located in Genesis 6-9, host Dave Lester discusses how churches teach about Noah's Ark, talks about varying views on the scope of the great deluge and goes into detail about the truly wild accounts of people trying to search for Noah's Ark on Mount Ararat in Eastern Turkey. Buckle up!



Sources for this episode:

Evangelicals and Science in Historical Perspective, "A Sign for an Unbelieving Age: Evangelicals and the Search for Noah's Ark" by Larry Eskridge

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*Noah's Ark and the Ziusudra Epic by R. M. Best

*"The Mediterranean Flood". Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith by G.R. Morton

*"The Pseudoarchaeology of Noah's Ark" Archaeology Review by Carl Feagans. https://ahotcupofjoe.net/2020/12/the-pseudoarchaeology-of-noahs-ark/?utm_source=www.google.com&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Google&referrer-analytics=1

*"Avalanche at Mount Ararat". Trove. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/38282531

*"Did Sennacherib, King of Assyria, Worship Wood From Noah's Ark as a Deity?" Life and Land by Gordon Franz. https://www.lifeandland.org/2013/10/did-sennacherib-king-of-assyria-worship-wood-from-noah%E2%80%99s-ark-as-a-deity/

*"Did Someone Really Find Noah's Ark" ICR Institute for Creation Research by Brian Thomas. https://www.icr.org/article/did-someone-really-find-noahs-ark

*The Landing Place of Noah's Ark: Testimonial, Geological and Historical Considerations Part Four" Associates for Biblical Research by Rick Lanser. https://www.biblearchaeology.org/research/contemporary-issues/4112-the-landingplace-of-noahs-ark-testimonial-geological-and-historical-considerations-part-four

*"Major Events of the Noah's Ark Expedition" https://biblearchaeology.org/research/contemporary-issues/4112-the-landingplace-of-noahs-ark-testimonial-geological-and-historical-considerations-part-four

*History of the Armenians Book Three by P'awstos Buzandac'i's. https://www.attalus.org/armenian/pb2.htm#10.

*The Eytomologies of Isidore of Seville by Isidore of Seville

*"Culture Ministry Launches Investigation Over Noah's Ark Claim" Today's Zaman by https://web.archive.org/web/20141022162942/http://www.todayszaman.com/national_culture-ministry-launches-investigation-over-noahs-ark-claims_208841.html

*"NZ Hoax Went Round the World" New Zealand Herald by Brian Rudman and Ana Samways https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ibrian-rudmani-nz-hoax-went-round-world/562U6HFYSYYWWNASL4TLSQWGMU/

*The Ark on Ararat by Tim LaHaye and John Morris

*"French Expedition to Mt. Ararat Fails to Find Traces of Noah's Ark" Jewish Telegraphic Agency https://www.jta.org/archive/french-expedition-to-mt-ararat-fails-to-find-traces-of-noahs-ark

*The Ark File by Rene Noorbergen

*Noah's Ark: Fable or Fact by Violet M Cummings

*"Ex-Astronaut James Irwin, 61, Founded Evangelical Organization". Chicago Sun Times by New York Times News Service. https://www.chicagotribune.com/1991/08/11/ex-astronaut-james-irwin-61-founded-evangelical-organization/

*In Search of the Lost Mountains of Noah: The Discovery of the Real Mts of Ararat By Robert Comuke

*Agri-Dagh (Mount Ararat): The Painful Mountain by Don Shockey

"The Search for Noah's Ark (Critique of the 2008 Video Tape Produced by the BASE Institute of Colorado Springs, CO) by Gordon Franz, Bill Crouse, and Rex Geissler. https://www.noahsarksearch.com/Cornuke_The_Search_For_Noah's_Ark_DVD_Review.pdf

*"Sun Goes Down in Flames: The Jammal Ark Hoax" by Jim Lippard. https://www.discord.org/lippard/skeptic/02.3.lippard-ark-hoax.html

"Phony Arkaeology". Time Magazine by Leon Jaroff

*"Doubt Cast on Noah's Ark Found in Turkey". The Christian Science Monitor by Stephen Kurczy. https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-Issues/2010/0428/Doubt-cast-on-Noah-s-ark-found-in-Turkey



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On this special episode, Eli Price joins Dave Lester to chat about Darren Aronofsky's Noah movie which came out in 2014.



Listen to Eli Price's podcast right here: https://www.establishingshotpod.com/



Watch the preview for the Noah movie right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdu10cX3pWA



Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Louis Armstrong

The Genesis Flood account part two! Eli Price (from The Establishing Shot podcast) joins me to talk about this main section of one of the most famous disaster stories of all time. We talk about the scope of the flood, clean and unclean animals and more. Plus, Eli talks about his podcast "The Establishing Shot" and Louisiana food cuisine.



Listen to Eli Price's podcast right here: https://www.establishingshotpod.com/



Sources used for this episode:

*New American Commentary: Genesis by Kenneth Matthews

*Come Out My People!: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook

*From Creation to the Cross: Understanding the First Half of the Bible by Albert H Baylis

*Free of Charge: Giving and Forgiving in a Culture Stripped of Grace by Miroslav Volf

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

*"What Made Some Animals Clean and others Unclean? Gotquestions.org (https://www.gotquestions.org/animals-clean-unclean.html)



Sources for a local flood in the Ancient Near East (Black Sea area):

*"Evidence for a Flood". Smithsonianmag.com by James Trefil (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/evidence-for-a-flood-102813115/)

*"Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened, Says Robert Ballard" abcnews.go.com (https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great-flood-noahs-time-happened/story?id=17884533)



Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Louis Armstrong