"Tell me about your strategy. Skills can wait." | Sandoz's Workforce Intelligence Lead on the one move that flips SWP from push to pull

Most strategic workforce plans never make it past the CHRO's desk. The horizon is five years, the work is detailed, and the business leader you need in the room would rather talk about anything else.

Felipe Hessel runs Workforce Intelligence at Sandoz, and he's worked out how to flip that dynamic, getting executives to pull SWP towards them rather than dodge it.

In this conversation, he walks through his six-step framework, the contracting move that earns him the right to ask about critical roles, and the agents he built that cut his own SWP cycle time by 60%.

Timestamps

• 01:11 - Why HR's role in AI transformation isn't what most people think

• 04:30 - The three-legged stool of transformation is missing a leg

• 07:33 - The four legs of Workforce Intelligence: analytics, SWP, skills, AI

• 11:02 - The 90-day playbook for a new Workforce Intelligence role

• 12:57 - How to flip a sceptical CEO from push to pull on a 5-year workforce plan

• 18:11 - The six-step SWP framework, from contracting to course correction

• 23:51 - Why investing in workforce tech without integration is a trap

• 28:45 - The AI claim every business leader should push back on

• 32:46 - 2030 prediction: HR as a product organization