Truth Wanted Atheist Community of Austin

In today’s episode of Truth Wanted, ObjectivelyDan and Kelley Laughlin look for evil in The Garden of Eden while pilots report UFO sightings as a venomous snake bites Paul on The Island of Malta.

Erasmus in CA states that Satan is a real being and does evil things. Christians developed the figure of Satan where the older Jewish religion assigns a different idea to Satan. What are your thoughts on Satan not killing as many people as god? Where in the Bible does it say that Satan actually does evil? How can we know what we are doing is evil if we don’t even have knowledge of good and evil? Why would there be a reason to believe that evil existed in the Garden of Eden when there was no knowledge of evil there in the first place? If eating the fruit was an evil act, then Adam was capable of doing something evil in a perfect environment. Why did god have to put the temptation of the tree there at all?  If we could create full fledged people out of the ground, why do we have to wait for anything else? These are all just stories and there is no reason to believe that any of this is real. Why is the Apostle Paul so special? How do you know that god did not tell Kelley in a vision last night that everything in the Bible is BS? Why do we take Jesus more seriously than anyone else in history who has claimed to be the son of god? How does the resurrection claim make this true?

Dan in Canada wants to talk about the increase of UFO reports from airline pilots and if we should start considering non-terrestrial sources for this. How do we know this uptick is not correlated with the media paying more attention to sitings? Alien contact stories have evolved over time and there was a major shift in content after the Betty and Barney Hill abduction story surfaced. 

The Seed in the US wants to talk about the New Testament dating and how it impacts the importance of the Bible. Mainstream consensus does not put the Gospels much earlier than the 70’s with some of them being as late as 110 AD, the timeframe of the earliest fragments. How do we explain the Gospel metaphors making sense in Greek and not Aramic, the language Jesus spoke? It is not plausible these fishermen knew Greek well enough to write these Gospels. We don’t have the original autographs of these fragments that were from 100 years later. Why should we think that the Book of Acts is a historical book? The consensus among scholars on the legitimate letters from Paul tend to date between 50 and late 60s AD. 
Jeffrey in PA proposes that the commandment given in the garden was to prevent the suffering that results from evil. Why did god create suffering in the first place and why did god create evil? Have you considered that none of this is real and it is just a myth? Why does god have to protect people against evil?

Thank you for tuning in the week and remember to always keep wanting the truth. Prompt of the week: What is the difference between Jesus and Pizza?

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/truth-wanted--3195473/support.

Show notes will be posted upon receipt.

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/truth-wanted--3195473/support.

Explore the truth with Truth Wanted as Objectively Dan and Darante’ LaMar explain the focus on religious gods while debunking yet another conspiracy theory about genocide, all while god is being defined by theists who use morality as a noun just before issuing a warning about predatory self help groups. 

Bradley in NC is a pantheist who asks why the hosts tend to only focus on religious gods and not unusual gods. How prevalent is pantheism in our culture? People need to see this dialogue in real time because the religious indoctrination is so strong. If we know people have doubts about a specific god, we create spaces for those doubts. We don’t need an explanation of the universe to conclude that gods don’t exist. We still have lives to live that are affected by this belief.

Connor in FL discussing the conspiracy theory about the number of Jewish people who were killed and cremated being inflated. The biggest problem with this idea is not all the people were brought to concentration camps. Many were just murdered or were starved to death. Even if these theories were true, why would it matter and what number of people would be insignificant? If you are ever in Amsterdam, make some time to go to the Anne Frank Museum and you wil learn that sadly, this is the most documented genocide in history. 

Bob in Germany asks how the hosts define god. God has just as many meanings as there are people. It depends on the context and we don’t take one definition. God is extremely personal so we go to the person who is talking to us for the definition of god and let the interlocutor spell out how they define god. If they say god is the universe, we already have a word for that. 

Marcia in NC observes that theists use morality as a noun, and non-theists use it as a verb. Most theists are in this camp where they just have to know all the rules to know what is right or wrong. How do theists separate god’s morality from human morality? Where do you get your morality from? Products of highly social species are often hard to define by individuals themselves. How can we lay the groundwork for philosophy when we can’t even agree on what morality is?

Chase in the USA describes the Landmark Forum where people are pressured to become members, recruit friends, pay a bunch of money, and engage in group “therapy”. If you are going to a seminar where people can help with your problems, check the credentials.  This is the type of magical thinking that we want to prevent and this is predatory behavior.  There is something that does not make sense about being sold self help. 

Thank you for tuning in this week for the truth. Prompt for the week is: What is an instant red flag? Keep rising!

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/truth-wanted--3195473/support.

To be added

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/truth-wanted--3195473/support.

Join us today on Truth Wanted with ObjectivelyDan and MD Aware! Dive into why humans go to war over photos of aliens on mars and is telecasted as a sporting event to vegans worldwide. 

Mark with no location is troubled with how humans are the most intelligent animals yet we still engage in war. Animals are capable of both conflict and cooperation and humans are the same. The goal of humanism is to expand the ingroup to include the entire human species while times of hardship bring out the in-group/out-group instincts. People have a long way to go, for instance, we started this show by discussing why beating disabled children is considered to be okay. We still have lots to figure out!

Chase in ID wants to talk about the health benefits of a plant based diet such as reduced risk of heart disease, cancer and diabetes. There are benefits to a lot of different diets, and we all metabolize things differently. Studies with nutrition are difficult and not like other studies because there are practical aspects of the science that are challenging. There are clear links between cancers and consuming certain kinds of meats. The focus from a health perspective is to have a more varied and balanced diet. What have humans evolved to eat and how does your heritage factor into this? What does a balanced diet really mean? Meat is calorie dense and we have cheap access to it in the U.S. This is one of the reasons why it is so over consumed. We need to come up with solutions for diets that people can do something about. If you reduce your consumption of meat, that is a positive change. 

Daniel in Canada called to discuss the photos of aliens on Mars that he sent and was hoping the hosts would meet him halfway on how the photos looked lifelike. Do you believe that aliens are a thing and the government is covering it up? What would be the social ramifications of this? Why would vague Neil Armstrong quotes and screenshots be sufficient evidence? Photos looking like aliens are not the same as there being an actual alien on Mars. How can your belief in aliens be falsified? Something being possible is not a reason to believe it is true. Look at all the reasons why you believe this and start trying to disprove it by poking holes in these reasons. Can someone who is an authority in a field still be wrong? Ask yourself what this information is really telling you. 

William in AR brings up how the pursuit of sports careers are popularized as a way to get out of poverty. This is a marketing problem, however, the bias is also on the consumer end. Sports is just a subcategory of celebrity culture. If it is not sports stars, it is Youtubers or rock stars. Racial stereotypes are played up in sports movies and people make money doing this. The pursuit of a higher education is just not as appealing as being a sexy hot person that everyone wants to be. 

Thank you for tuning in to our show! Eat a balanced diet on Mars while you consider the question of the week: What is an alpha male?


Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/truth-wanted--3195473/support.

Title: Talking to God, Evolution/God,  Morality Debates, and Atrocity of Religion.

SHOW TIME-STAMPS

00:00 Intro
16:21 Messages from the Universe-USA | Talking to God
35:00 Just Some Guy-Ireland | Evolution disproves God?

SHOW NOTES

Welcome to Truth Wanted, where all the truthers gather! Tonight, our host Objectively Dan is joined by Michael Wiseman of the Bible Says What?! 

Messages from God from the USA is our first caller. Ohh boy people! This is a doozy. Messages claims we just choose to hear God and we have to be open to it. And God especially picked her for us to receive this information so we can talk to God. Also, we exist and yet we don’t exist in this dimension. I am trying people, just listen to the call as this show notes writer is struggling. Seriously, both Dan and Michael try and pin down her premise and how she came to the conclusions she has and the message she wants to impart. Buckle up folks!

Just Some Guy from the Green Isle gives our hosts a ring to talk about do atheists deny God because of evolution? No, as there are plenty of believers who accept the theory of evolution. Somehow, the conversation shifts to objective vs. subjective morality. The hosts and Just Some Guy get into some interesting philosophical questions and how God doesn’t resolve any of these issues. 

Last but thankfully not least is Philo-Sophistry from also the USofA calls to discuss the harm of religion, if it does have any benefit, and when do we, as atheists intervene? These are some questions to ponder and worth it to do so. 





Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/truth-wanted--3195473/support.