Embodiment for the Rest of Us Chavonne A. McClay, MSW, LCSW (she/her) and Jenn Jackson, MPH, RDN, LD (she/her)
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- Health & Fitness
Jenn (she/her) and Chavonne (she/her) are a HAES®-aligned dietitian and therapist duo who are passionate about dismantling the intersectional barriers to embodiment. In this show, they interview professionals and those with lived experience alike to learn how they are affecting radical change and how we can all make this world a safer place for those living in larger bodies and in marginalized spaces.
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Deep Dive Part 1: Attending and Attuning to the Body, Unconscious Contracts with the Systems that Affect Us, and Loving Accountability with Michelle Phillips - EFTROU: S4, Ep5
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 5: Deep Dive with Michelle Phillips
Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Michelle Phillips (they/them/we) for a deep dive about attending and attuning to the body, unconscious contracts with the systems that affect us, and loving accountability.
Content Warning: discussion of intentional weight loss, discussion of multiple genocides taking place at this time
Trigger Warnings: None in this episode
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-5-michelle-phillips/#captions
A few highlights:
8:53: Michelle discusses the simplicities and complexities (equally) of embodiment as we go about our daily lives
Links from this episode:
Neurodivergence
Polyvagal Theory
Vagus Nerve
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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Embodying Self-Care Beyond Bath Bombs, Disability Access and Community, and the Isolation of Embodiment with Imani Barbarin - EFTROU: S4, Ep4
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 4: Imani Barbarin
Chavonne (she/her), Jenn (she/they), and Maya (she/her) interviewed Imani (she/her/hers) about her embodiment journey.
Imani Barbarin is a disability rights and inclusion activist and speaker who uses her voice and social media platforms to create conversations engaging the disability community. Born with cerebral palsy, Imani often writes and uses her platform to speak from the perspective of a disabled Black woman. In the last few years she has created over a dozen trending hashtags that allow disabled folk the opportunity to have their perspectives heard while forcing the world to take notice. #PatientsAreNotFaking, #ThingsDisabledPeopleKnow, #AbledsAreWeird and others each provide a window into disabled life while forming community. Imani is from the Philadelphia area and holds a Masters in Global Communications from the American University of Paris, her published works include those in Forbes, Rewire, Healthline, BitchMedia and more. She runs the blog CrutchesAndSpice.com and a podcast of the same name.
Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of medicalized racism, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, mentions of ableism, mentions of suicide, discussion of ageism
Trigger Warnings:
58:30: Imani discusses weight loss surgery and eating disorders
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-4-imani-barbarin/#captions
A few highlights:
4:47: Imani shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey
19:40: Imani discusses how the pandemic has affected her embodiment practices
47:22: Imani shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges
59:33: Imani discusses her work with social media misinformation/disinformation and disability advocacy
1:14:11: Imanin shares how her embodiment around phobias and -isms
1:16:51: Imani discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation
1:24:24: Imani shares where to be found and what’s next for her
Links from this episode:
Ableism
American with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA)
Autism
Harriet Tubman Collective
Iron Lung
Movement for Black Lives
Multiple Models of Disability
PA Act 77
The Protest Psychosis
Runaway Slave Syndrome
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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Energy is Precious, Limitations as Embodiment, and Unlearning Categorization with Niyera Hewlett - EFTROU: S4, Ep3
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 3: Niyera Hewlett
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Niyera (they/them) about their embodiment journey.
Niyera (they/them) is a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor in New Mexico and North Carolina who supervises counseling students, social work students, and licensed associates. They founded a queer and neurodivergent affirming mental health agency in Albuquerque that can be found at: youmeandtherapy.com. They work from an anti-oppressive, relational lens that helps inform how they approach supervision and therapy. They specialize in working with marginalized communities, complex trauma, dissociation, and much more. They are a trans non-binary neurodivergent human of Middle Eastern descent, raised by an immigrant mother. They reside in New Mexico with their spouse, two children, and three cats. In their spare time, they spend a lot of time imagining and writing fantasy stories as a special interest.
Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues
Trigger Warnings:
53:24: Chavonne uses “crazy” in a way that is ableist.
The captions for this episode can be found at
A few highlights:
3:54: Niyera shares their understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey
9:28: Niyera discusses how the pandemic affected their embodiment practices
28:14: Niyera shares their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges
31:42: Niyera discusses how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her
42:55: Niyera shares how their own work and supporting clients has changed and challenged their relationship with their own embodiment
1:00:47: Niyera discusses their experience learning and unlearning while calling out what is oppressive in our systems
1:13:50: Niyera discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation
1:21:29: Niyera shares where to be found and what’s next for them
Links from this episode:
Ableism
Ample and Rooted
Autism
Binocular Vision Dysfunction
Depersonalization
Derealization
Neurodivergence
Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA)
Reflective Supervision
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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Deep Dive: Identity, Sex Positive Families, and Kiddos as Embodiment Teachers with Tiana Dodson - EFTROU: S4, E2
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 2: Deep Dive with Tiana Dodson
Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Tiana Dodson (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment and children.
Content Warning: discussion of sexuality
Trigger Warnings:
1:45:30: Tiana uses “insane” in a way that is ableist
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-2-tiana-dodson/#captions
A few highlights:
7:06: Tiana discusses how children are embodiment teachers
59:32: Tiana shares how capacity and capability are distinct parts of embodiment
1:19:36: Tiana discusses creating and fostering foster relationships of liberation
1:37:00: Tiana shares what she’s doing next
Links from this episode:
ADHD
Autism
Being You: A First Conversation about Gender
In This Body: Finding Liberation Virtual Conference
Liberation is a Relationship
Love Notes For A New Year
The Nap Ministry
Neurodivergence
Other People Are In The Way of Your Liberation
RAADS-R
Reclaiming Ugly
Rest is Resistance
Sex Positive Families
We Make the Path
Yes: Your Empowered Sexuality
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
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Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
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Season 4 Intro Episode: Acknowledging Disability, Slowing Down, and Continuing with Intention - EFTROU: S4, Ep1
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 1: Season 4 Intro Episode
Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) introduce Season 4!
Content Warning: None in this episode
Trigger Warnings: None in this episode
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-1-season-4-intro/#captions
A few highlights:
2:02: Jenn and Chavonne share their words for 2024
20:27: Chavonne and Jenn discuss exploring disability and neurodiversity in Season 4
32:46: Jenn and Chavonne discuss their commitment to justice and liberation related to the most marginalized humans and bodies in the world
Links from this episode:
How To Keep House While Drowning
Imani Barbarin
Morgan Harper Nichols IG Post
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
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Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
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Season 3 Wrap-Up Episode - EFTROU: S3Ep13
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 13: Wrap Up Episode
Jenn (she/her) and Chavonne (she/her) wrap up Season 3!
Content Warning: None in this episode
Trigger Warnings: None in this episode
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-13-season-3-wrap-up-episode/#captions
A few highlights:
2:13: Jenn and Chavonne discuss how processing and practicing rest changed and challenged them in 2023
13:14: Chavonne and Jenn discuss capability vs. capacity in their personal and professional lives
23:39: Jenn and Chavonne discuss what they’re looking forward to next year for the podcast
Links from this episode:
Love Jenni K
Mikey Mercedes
Neurodivergence
Whitney Trotter
Whole Self Counseling
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus