beyond ArtLess Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander

The Season 2 Finale is here! As you will hear, we end the season with more of a whimper than a bang. Regardless, thank you for sticking with us through another season. We are tremendously grateful to all of our guests this past season as well as our six listeners. Have a great summer! We look forward to subjecting you to more mind numbing banter next fall. Support the Show.

Our final guest of season 2 is Lt. Col. Ryan Nowlin, the 29th Director of "The President's Own" United States Marine Band! Our conversation covers Ryan's career path from public school music teacher to staff arranger and now Director of "The President's Own." We learn more about his work in this role as well as collaborations with Beyoncé, Kelly Clarkson and John Williams to name a few. As you will hear in this episode, Ryan is one of the most humble and kind individuals you will ever meet. H...

In this episode, we talk to Peter about his trip to Panama. No, it is not part of the witness protection program...well, not this time. Our guests, Tim and Christine Baumann share with us their amazing journey in music education (and the planet). They talk about their experiences teaching music in Hong Kong and their roles as co-directors of the International Music Camp in North Dakota. Tim and Christine discuss the different programs offered at the camp and how their travels have changed the...

In this episode, Phil turns 50. Don’t worry, his status with AARP doesn’t affect his podcasting ability. Thankfully, Jeff Ball stops by for a chat. Jeff is the Director of Bands and Coordinator of Performing Arts at the Grand Street Campus (GSC) High Schools in the Bushwick neighborhood of Brooklyn, NY. He is also the Founder, Artistic Director and Conductor of the Brooklyn Wind Symphony, established in 2008 as the Grand Street Community Band. From its original thirty members, the organizatio...

Dr. Josh Becker, a trombone player and elementary school teacher, shares his experiences and insights. He teaches fifth grade and coordinates the elementary band program in the Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan School District in Minnesota. He also runs an instrument donation program, providing instruments to students who cannot afford them. Dr. Becker emphasizes the importance of variety in his teaching career, working with students of different ages and skill levels. He discusses the challenges ...

This week's guest is John Mackey. It is worth the listen even with the three hosts still involved. Yet, it is important to note an interesting development - the software we use to produce this podcast now offers AI episode summary and "takeaways". This week's takeaways were too good not to share:TakeawaysSometimes it's necessary to hide in a closet to escape from family or visitorsJazz Fest can be a fun and memorable experienceHaving an openable window in a closet is unusualSkipping sch...