Ellysse and Ashley Break the Internet Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (ITIF)

Cathy Gellis, veteran Internet professional-turned-lawyer working in the intersection of technology and civil liberties, joins Ellysse and Ashley to explain what Section 230 is, what it does, why it has attracted so much attention and controversy, and what the key players in the debate are saying.

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Cathy Gellis, “If We’re Going To Talk About Discrimination In Online Ads, We Need To Talk About Roommates.com,” Techdirt, February 19, 2021.Cathy Gellis, “How To Think About Online Ads And Section 230,” Techdirt, February 10, 2021.Fair Hous. Council of San Fernando Valley v. Roommates.com, LLC, 521 F.3d 1157 (9th Cir. 2008) (en banc).Cathy Gellis, “Section 230 Isn’t A Subsidy; It’s A Rule Of Civil Procedure,” Techdirt, December 29, 2020.Related
Ashley Johnson and Daniel Castro, “Overview of Section 230: What It Is, Why It Was Created, and What It Has Achieved” (ITIF, February 2021).

Patrick Carome, one of the leading advocates in Section 230 litigation famous for representing AOL in the landmark Section 230 case, Zeran v. AOL, joins Ellysse and Ashley to explore the history behind Section 230, Congress' intentions in passing it, and the foundational case that set the precedent for how courts interpret it.

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Zeran v. Am. Online, Inc., 129 F.3d 327 (4th Cir. 1997).Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy Servs. Co., No. 31063/94, 1995 N.Y. Misc. LEXIS 229 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. May 24, 1995).Cubby, Inc. v. CompuServe, Inc., 776 F. Supp. 135 (S.D.N.Y. 1991).Related:
Ashley Johnson and Daniel Castro, “The Exceptions to Section 230: How Have Courts Interpreted Section 230?” (ITIF, February 2021).

Klon Kitchen, a tech policy expert at the American Enterprise Institute who authored the Heritage Foundation’s Section 230 reform proposal, joins Ellysse and Ashley to unpack the political debate surrounding Section 230 and the treatment of political speech online.
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Klon Kitchen, “Section 230—Mend It, Don’t End It” (Heritage Foundation, October 2020).Related
Ashley Johnson and Daniel Castro, “Proposals to Reform Section 230” (ITIF, February 2021).

Aaron Mackey, staff attorney and free speech expert at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, joins Ellysse and Ashley to evaluate recent proposals to amend or repeal Section 230 based on their potential impact and effectiveness. 
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“S.3398 - EARN IT Act of 2020,” Congress.gov. “S.4534 - Online Freedom and Viewpoint Diversity Act,” Congress.gov. “S.4632 - Online Content Policy Modernization Act,” Congress.gov. “S.4066 - PACT Act,” Congress.gov. Related 
Ashley Johnson and Daniel Castro, “Proposals to Reform Section 230” (ITIF, February 2021). Sophia Cope, Aaron Mackey, and Andrew Crocker, “The EARN IT Act Violates the Constitution,” EFF, March 31, 2020. Aaron Mackey, “The PACT Act’s Attempt to Help Internet Users Hold Platforms Accountable Will End Up Hurting Online Speakers,” EFF, July 21, 2020. Sophia Cope and Aaron Mackey, “The PACT Act Is Not The Solution To The Problem Of Harmful Online Content,” EFF, July 30, 2020. 

Daphne Keller, platform regulation expert at Stanford University and former Associate General Counsel for Google, joins Ellysse and Ashley to explain Section 230’s role in shaping how large companies approach content moderation on a massive scale, and how intermediary liability protections allow platforms of all sizes to thrive.
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Jennifer M. Urban, Joe Karaganis, and Brianna L. Shofield, Notice and Takedown in Everyday Practice(Berkeley Law, 2016).Maarten Sap et al., “The Risk of Racial Bias in Hate Speech Detection,” Proceedings of the 57th Annual Meeting of the Association for Computational Linguistics (2019): 1668-78.Thomas Davidson, Debasmita Bhattacharya, and Ingmar Weber, “Racial Bias in Hate Speech and Abusive Language Detection Datasets,” Proceedings of the Third Workshop on Abusive Language Online (2019): 25-35.“H.R.1865 - Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act of 2017,” Congress.gov.Woodhull Freedom Foundation v. United States, No. 18-5298 (D.C. Cir. 2020).Daphne Keller, “SESTA and the Teachings of Intermediary Liability” (The Center for Internet and Society, November 2017).Daphne Keller, “For platform regulation Congress should use a European cheat sheet,” The Hill, January 15, 2021.Renee Diresta, “Free Speech Is Not the Same As Free Reach,” Wired, August 30, 2018.

Jessica Ashooh, Director of Policy at Reddit, joins Ellysse and Ashley to explore the impact of Section 230 on small to mid-sized companies and explain its importance for innovation and competition in the Internet economy.
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 “H.R.1865 - Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act of 2017,” Congress.gov.Related
Emily Birnbaum, “Reddit worries it’s going to be crushed in the fight against Big Tech,” Protocol, October 28, 2020.