11 episódios

Exceptional discussions for those of us on the outside. Join hosts Ray Curenton and Tim Dillinger for uncensored, unfiltered, and unraveled conversations that weave together history, faith, arts, and social politics into the fabric of our greater cultural narrative. There's always an exception to the rule.

Outlaw's Evidence of the Unseen Ray Curenton & Tim Dillinger

    • Religião e espiritualidade

Exceptional discussions for those of us on the outside. Join hosts Ray Curenton and Tim Dillinger for uncensored, unfiltered, and unraveled conversations that weave together history, faith, arts, and social politics into the fabric of our greater cultural narrative. There's always an exception to the rule.

    Honk for Jesus (with Juba Kalamka)

    Honk for Jesus (with Juba Kalamka)

    In the series finale of Outlaw's Evidence of the Unseen, hosts Ray Curenton and Tim Dillinger are joined by artist/activist Juba Kalamka, author of Son of Byford (published by Black Lawrence Press), to discuss Adamma Ebo's mockumentary Honk for Jesus. Save Your Soul., a film that examines the construct of the megachurch and how it intertwines with capitalism, homophobia, and sexism to create a machine through which greed, shame, and power coalesce.  

    Follow Juba Kalamka: @jubakalamka 

    Get Juba’s book, Son of Byford at https://bookshop.org/p/books/son-of-byford-juba-kalamka/18559472?ean=9781955239318 

    Follow Juba’s band, Commando: @commandosucks 

    Support Juba's music on Bandcamp: https://commandothebando.bandcamp.com/ 

    Follow Tim: @timdillinger 

    Follow Ray: @raycurenton 

    Subscribe to Tim's newsletter at https://godsmusicismylife.substack.com/ and listen to his new podcast God’s Music Is My Life at https://tr.ee/UE8VxIegZk 

    Support Ray’s music on Bandcamp https://raycurenton.bandcamp.com/ 


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    • 1h 45 min
    I’m a God Warrior!

    I’m a God Warrior!

    The FOX network once called her frenzy “the most compelling footage ever caught on tape.” We’re talking, of course, about Marguerite Perrin, most commonly known as “The God Warrior.” Tim and Ray revisit both of her classic appearances on the reality show Trading Spouses: Meet Your New Mommy, including her infamous “mother of all meltdowns” that has inspired memes and parodies ever since it first aired in 2005. The hosts discuss how Southern Christian paranoia and fear of the “dork-sided” got its first major mainstream showcase in possibly the most epic moment of reality television ever.

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    Tim: @timdillinger

    Ray: @raycurenton

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    • 1h 19 min
    I Wish We’d All Been Ready

    I Wish We’d All Been Ready

    We’ve been promising it for weeks and here it finally is! In this very special episode, Tim and Ray discuss the Christian obsession with end-time prophesy. In addition to talking about their individual deconstructions around believing in the rapture, our hosts review six of the most well-known rapture films and analyze the use of the promise of an impending apocalypse as an evangelical scare tactic. Time stamps for the start of each film review below:

    0:20:03 - A Thief in the Night (1972), dir. Donald W. Thompson

    0:52:08 - A Distant Thunder (1978), dir. Donald W. Thompson

    1:09:28 - Image of the Beast (1981), dir. Donald W. Thompson

    1:31:55 - The Prodigal Planet (1983), dir. Donald W. Thompson

    1:40:04 - Left Behind: The Movie (2000), dir. Vic Sarin

    1:51:24 - Left Behind (2014), dir. Vic Armstrong



    Further Reading:

    “A Thief in the Night: The Christian Apocalyptic Thriller That Spawned an Industry” by Dustin T. Cox



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    Ray: @raycurenton

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    Support Ray’s new single “Make it with Me” on Bandcamp

    Purchase Cheryl Wills’ Isn’t Her Grace Amazing!: The Women Who Changed Gospel Music at your local bookstore


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    • 2 h 8 min
    Hillsong: A Docuseries Reviewed

    Hillsong: A Docuseries Reviewed

    G’day, mates! In this episode, our hosts review the new three-part Discovery+ documentary series, Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed. Founded in Sydney, Australia by Brian Houston and made famous through its never-ending worship music products, Hillsong is an international megachurch, media conglomerate, and Christian college mired in a plethora of abuse scandals. Throughout the episode, Tim struggles to retain former Hillsong pastor Carl Lentz’s name (or remember who Chris Pratt is) while also wondering how none of the leadership of the church saw his improprieties coming. Ray contemplates the culture of sexual abuse in evangelicalism and the notion of growth and wealth as false evidence of a church’s righteousness. What pastor isn’t a narcissist? What were people even getting from these Ted Talk sermons? Are evangelical churches meeting or dictating consumer demand? Along the way, they also discuss the obsession with clothes and “looking expensive” in church culture and the dangerousness of “mainstreaming” churches by integrating the conceptions of celebrity, influencers, and prosperity. Is Hillsong an outlier or just a highly visible example of the everyday norm in evangelical churches today?

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    Ray: @raycurenton

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    • 1h 33 min
    Looking for a Miracle

    Looking for a Miracle

    In this episode, Tim and Ray talk all about science⁠—or more so⁠, all about how science often gets thrown out the window in faith-based communities. What are the origins of this ideological clash? Galileo and his heliocentrism? Darwin and his common ancestors? Are faith healers and their promises of “miraculous healing” completely full of it? Why do evangelicals give more authority to their pastors when it comes to health outcomes and natural phenomena than they do to actual doctors and science experts? Is the Bible ableist? And why do so many Christians keep it a secret (or just flat out ignore it) when they take ill? The hosts close the show discussing how these seemingly personal problems are to the detriment of all of society when played out on a macro-level (think: dominion theology and Christian nationalism), and offer some alternative ideas for reconciliation.

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    • 1h 24 min
    You Don't Know What You're Missing: Why Andraé Crouch Matters

    You Don't Know What You're Missing: Why Andraé Crouch Matters

    He expanded the possibilities of the gospel sound. He dared to defy the borders of race and integrate Christian music audiences. He shared his platform with many of the most brilliant vocalists and musicians of our lifetime. And then he brought gospel music to the rest of the world. In this episode, Tim and Ray discuss the life and music of gospel legend Andraé Crouch. As always, they dig in deep, covering his beginnings in COGIC (and his first group, the COGICs), his top-notch rolodex of collaborators (including Billy Preston, Bill Maxwell, Danniebelle Hall, Táta Vega, Phillip Bailey, Stevie Wonder, Howard Smith, Linda McCrary, Kristle Murden, and his very own twin sister Sandra Crouch), his prolific works released through Light and, later, Warner Bros. Records, his right-wing politics, his 1982 drug arrest scandal, and his crossover era working in major Hollywood films (The Color Purple and The Lion King, anyone?) and with pop megastars like Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones, Madonna, and Rick Astley.

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    Ray: @raycurenton

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    • 1h 44 min

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