32 min
Bringing Autonomy to AppSec - Dr. David Brumley - ESW Vault Security Weekly Podcast Network (Audio)
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Log4j, solar winds, tesla hacks, and the wave of high profile appsec problems aren’t going to go away with current approaches like SAST and SCA. Why? They are:
-40 years old, with little innovation
-Haven’t solved the problem.
In this segment, we talk about fully autonomous application security. Vetted by DARPA in the Cyber Grand Challenge, the approach is different:
-Prove bugs, rather than trying to list all of them.
-Zero false positives, which leads to better autonomy.
Segment Resources:
Article on competition: https://www.darpa.mil/about-us/timeline/cyber-grand-challenge
Technical article on approach: https://spectrum.ieee.org/mayhem-the-machine-that-finds-software-vulnerabilities-then-patches-them
Example vulns discovered:
https://forallsecure.com/blog/forallsecure-uncovers-critical-vulnerabilities-in-das-u-boot
https://github.com/forallsecure/vulnerabilitieslab
Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/vault-esw-12
Log4j, solar winds, tesla hacks, and the wave of high profile appsec problems aren’t going to go away with current approaches like SAST and SCA. Why? They are:
-40 years old, with little innovation
-Haven’t solved the problem.
In this segment, we talk about fully autonomous application security. Vetted by DARPA in the Cyber Grand Challenge, the approach is different:
-Prove bugs, rather than trying to list all of them.
-Zero false positives, which leads to better autonomy.
Segment Resources:
Article on competition: https://www.darpa.mil/about-us/timeline/cyber-grand-challenge
Technical article on approach: https://spectrum.ieee.org/mayhem-the-machine-that-finds-software-vulnerabilities-then-patches-them
Example vulns discovered:
https://forallsecure.com/blog/forallsecure-uncovers-critical-vulnerabilities-in-das-u-boot
https://github.com/forallsecure/vulnerabilitieslab
Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/vault-esw-12
32 min