What happens in the long term to a person who experiences depression? In this conversation for Hidden Brain+ subscribers, we talk with psychologist Jonathan Rottenberg about research showing that many people don’t just recover from depression — they go on to flourish. He explains what might distinguish those who thrive, and why depression can sometimes become a bridge to a better place.
This conversation is a companion to our episode "Rethinking Depression." If you haven't yet listened to that episode, we recommend you start there. And a note that this episode includes discussion of an attempted suicide. If you or someone you love is in crisis, there are people who can help. If you're inside the U.S., call or text 988, or visit the 988 Helpline online. If you’re outside the U.S., you can search for resources in your country on this site.
Episode illustration by Kyunghee Yim for Unsplash+
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- Published16 March 2026 at 05:00 UTC
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