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๐Ÿ’ป๐Ÿ’ถ๐ŸŒ 217 - Gregory Landua & Speaker John Ash on Regenerative Accelerationism & How To Heal A Broken Internet FUTURE FOSSILS

    • Philosophy

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Today I welcome you to join me for a long-awaited trialogue with two of the most thoughtful people I know: Gregory Landua, co-founder of Regen Network (and CEO of Regen Network Dev PBC), a project to bend finance and computing back into service of regenerative land stewardship, and Speaker John Ash, a machine learning engineer and artist/musician who walked away from his fintech job in 2017 in protest of the profit motive to build a democratic language model named Iris based on Cognicism, a new framework for collaboration rooted in shared wisdom.ย 
Gregory and John are two of the most prominent and articulate advocates in my network for a third way beyond starry-eyed technoutopianism and desperate doomer thinking. Neither of them pull any punches when it comes to their cutting critiques of extractive capitalism and its capture of both sustainability discourse and potentially emancipatory new information technologies. But both recognize, as I do, that with a deeper and more fundamental understanding of the nature of trust, money, technology, and value that humankind is fully capable of a socioeconomic transformation that could empower us to make every transaction serve our collective well-being.
It took me a while to come around to believing in the notion that AI and Web3 could actually heal the damage weโ€™re doing to the biosphere, and even now I acknowledge that tools, like people, tend toward the production of harmful externalities when embedded in structurally unjust systems. But as I discussed with evolutionary biologist Manfred Laubichler and physicist Geoffrey West back in episode 212, not all innovation is created equal โ€” and we may be on the cusp of a psychological and cultural reformation that opens up new paths to sanity and right relations. And itโ€™s well past time for us to move beyond a โ€œnature good, tech badโ€ or โ€œtech good, nature badโ€ duality โ€” both sides come from the same flaw in comprehension that allows us to believe we can escape our natural limits, or that self-destruction will allow us to escape our duties as the steward-servants of our living world.
Enjoy this soulful and provocative discussion!
โœจ Mentioned & Related Links:
The Dawn of Everything by David Graeber & David WengrowUSGS on climate change and monsoons in the US SWEarlier recording of Gregory Landua & Speaker John Ash in dialogueGregory Landua on Kevin Owockiโ€™s Green Pill PodcastMG on โ€œvalue creationโ€ as the export of externalitiesSpeaker John Ash on CognicismSpeaker John Ash on Cognition & ConflictSpeaker John Ash on SpotifyAn Oral History of The End of โ€œRealityโ€ by MGAccelerando by Charles StrossGlasshouse by Charles StrossRapture of the Nerds by Charles Stross & Cory Doctorow
โœจย Support The Show:
โ€ขย Subscribe onย Substack orย Patreon for COPIOUS extras, including private Discord server channels and MANY secret episodesโ€ขย Make one-off donations atย @futurefossils on Venmo,ย $manfredmacx on CashApp, orย @michaelgarfield on PayPalโ€ขย Buy the music (intro/outro: โ€œOlympus Monsโ€ & โ€œSonnet Aโ€; episode codas โ€œTransparentโ€ & โ€œSignalโ€) on Bandcampโ€ขย Buy the books we discuss atย the Future Fossils Bookshop.org page and I get a small cut from your support of indie booksellersโ€ขย Browse and buy original paintings and prints or email me to commission new work
โœจย Related FF Episodes:
213 - Amber Case & Michael Zargham on Entangled Technologies & Design As Governance206 - Scout Rainer Wiley on AI vs. BS Jobs, The Return of Culture, and Eldritch Wonders in The Bright Apocalypse193 - Kimberly Dill on Environmental Philosophy: In Defense of Wildness & Night181 - Jim Rutt on The Pre- an

If you care about this show as a public good, consider signing up on Substack or Patreon today for bonus episodes, live calls, and more โ€” or at least mash โ€œsubscribeโ€ on Spotify or Apple Podcasts and leave a five-star review.ย  The unborn future archaeologists who find these episodes inscribed in DNA will thank you!
Today I welcome you to join me for a long-awaited trialogue with two of the most thoughtful people I know: Gregory Landua, co-founder of Regen Network (and CEO of Regen Network Dev PBC), a project to bend finance and computing back into service of regenerative land stewardship, and Speaker John Ash, a machine learning engineer and artist/musician who walked away from his fintech job in 2017 in protest of the profit motive to build a democratic language model named Iris based on Cognicism, a new framework for collaboration rooted in shared wisdom.ย 
Gregory and John are two of the most prominent and articulate advocates in my network for a third way beyond starry-eyed technoutopianism and desperate doomer thinking. Neither of them pull any punches when it comes to their cutting critiques of extractive capitalism and its capture of both sustainability discourse and potentially emancipatory new information technologies. But both recognize, as I do, that with a deeper and more fundamental understanding of the nature of trust, money, technology, and value that humankind is fully capable of a socioeconomic transformation that could empower us to make every transaction serve our collective well-being.
It took me a while to come around to believing in the notion that AI and Web3 could actually heal the damage weโ€™re doing to the biosphere, and even now I acknowledge that tools, like people, tend toward the production of harmful externalities when embedded in structurally unjust systems. But as I discussed with evolutionary biologist Manfred Laubichler and physicist Geoffrey West back in episode 212, not all innovation is created equal โ€” and we may be on the cusp of a psychological and cultural reformation that opens up new paths to sanity and right relations. And itโ€™s well past time for us to move beyond a โ€œnature good, tech badโ€ or โ€œtech good, nature badโ€ duality โ€” both sides come from the same flaw in comprehension that allows us to believe we can escape our natural limits, or that self-destruction will allow us to escape our duties as the steward-servants of our living world.
Enjoy this soulful and provocative discussion!
โœจ Mentioned & Related Links:
The Dawn of Everything by David Graeber & David WengrowUSGS on climate change and monsoons in the US SWEarlier recording of Gregory Landua & Speaker John Ash in dialogueGregory Landua on Kevin Owockiโ€™s Green Pill PodcastMG on โ€œvalue creationโ€ as the export of externalitiesSpeaker John Ash on CognicismSpeaker John Ash on Cognition & ConflictSpeaker John Ash on SpotifyAn Oral History of The End of โ€œRealityโ€ by MGAccelerando by Charles StrossGlasshouse by Charles StrossRapture of the Nerds by Charles Stross & Cory Doctorow
โœจย Support The Show:
โ€ขย Subscribe onย Substack orย Patreon for COPIOUS extras, including private Discord server channels and MANY secret episodesโ€ขย Make one-off donations atย @futurefossils on Venmo,ย $manfredmacx on CashApp, orย @michaelgarfield on PayPalโ€ขย Buy the music (intro/outro: โ€œOlympus Monsโ€ & โ€œSonnet Aโ€; episode codas โ€œTransparentโ€ & โ€œSignalโ€) on Bandcampโ€ขย Buy the books we discuss atย the Future Fossils Bookshop.org page and I get a small cut from your support of indie booksellersโ€ขย Browse and buy original paintings and prints or email me to commission new work
โœจย Related FF Episodes:
213 - Amber Case & Michael Zargham on Entangled Technologies & Design As Governance206 - Scout Rainer Wiley on AI vs. BS Jobs, The Return of Culture, and Eldritch Wonders in The Bright Apocalypse193 - Kimberly Dill on Environmental Philosophy: In Defense of Wildness & Night181 - Jim Rutt on The Pre- an

1 hr 35 min