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(CLCV 205) This is an introductory course in Greek history tracing the development of Greek civilization as manifested in political, intellectual, and creative achievements from the Bronze Age to the end of the classical period. Students read original sources in translation as well as the works of modern scholars.

This course was recorded in Fall 2007.

Ancient Greek History - Audio Donald Kagan

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(CLCV 205) This is an introductory course in Greek history tracing the development of Greek civilization as manifested in political, intellectual, and creative achievements from the Bronze Age to the end of the classical period. Students read original sources in translation as well as the works of modern scholars.

This course was recorded in Fall 2007.

    24 - Twilight of the Polis (cont.) and Conclusion

    24 - Twilight of the Polis (cont.) and Conclusion

    In this lecture, Professor Kagan tells the story of the rise of Philip and describes his early actions: unifying Macedon, defeating barbarian armies, and creating a new, professional, national army. According to Professor Kagan, through these actions, Philip was able to make inroads into the Greek world. What made these inroads more effective was Philip's uncanny talent for diplomacy and the fighting between the various poleis. Eventually, the Greeks under the efforts of Athens and Demosthenes decided to face Philip in the battle of Chaeronea. The battle, though close, was won by Philip and his Macedonian forces. Finally, Professor Kagan evaluates the actions of Demosthenes and concludes that his actions should be judged as a noble endeavor of one who loved freedom.

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    23 - Twilight of the Polis

    23 - Twilight of the Polis

    In this lecture, Professor Kagan describes the growth of a new power: Thebes. Under the leadership of Epaminondas and Pelopidas, Thebes grows into a major power among the Greek cities. In fact, the Thebans even rout the Spartans in a standard hoplite battle in the battle of Leuctra. Finally, Professor Kagan points out that by the time of Theban hegemony, the Greek world had experienced so many wars and conflicts that it opened the door to a powerful leader: Philip of Macedon.

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    22 - The Struggle for Hegemony in Fourth-Century Greece (cont.)

    22 - The Struggle for Hegemony in Fourth-Century Greece (cont.)

    In this lecture, Professor Kagan examines the continuation of Spartan tyranny over the Greek poleis and the response of the Greek world. According to Professor Kagan, it became clear that the Greek poleis needed to do something to check the power of Sparta. So, Thebes, Argos, Corinth, and Athens along with some of the smaller poleis joined together to fight Sparta in the Corinthian War. The war ended in a stalemate, but now the Persians were afraid of the growth of Athenian naval power. So, the king made an alliance with Sparta to bring about the King's Peace, which emphasized Greek autonomy and which had the effect of breaking up all alliances, except the Peloponnesian League. After this fact, Sparta continued in its tyrannical behavior.

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    21 - The Struggle for Hegemony in Fourth-Century Greece

    21 - The Struggle for Hegemony in Fourth-Century Greece

    In this lecture, Professor Kagan describes the aftermath of the Peloponnesian War and how the Spartans began to dominate other Greek poleis, instead of liberating them. The Spartan general Lysander at this point not only grows in influence and power, but also follows an aggressive plan to establish pro-Spartan, oligarchical governments. However, according to Professor Kagan, this fact angered many cities. Therefore, Thrasybulus, along with the help of other poleis, resisted Spartan rule. Eventually he opposed Sparta at Phyle and in time reestablished the democracy of Athens.

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    20 - The Peloponnesian War, Part II (cont.)

    20 - The Peloponnesian War, Part II (cont.)

    In this lecture, Professor Kagan examines Pericles as a general. First, he describes Pericles' strategy of war and then he evaluates this strategy. According to Professor Kagan, Pericles' strategy was characterized by being both defensive and rational. It was defensive, because the Athenians did not engage the Spartans in a traditional hoplite battle, and it was rational, because Pericles assumed that the Spartans would cease fighting when they realized that the Athenians did not have to fight a land battle, since they had a walled city and a navy. On its surface, this strategy seems reasonable, but Professor Kagan points out that there were two flaws. First, the Athenians did not have an offensive plan: that is, a plan to deter the Spartans from quitting the war. Second, Pericles failed to realize that war is not always rational.

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    19 - The Peloponnesian War, Part II

    19 - The Peloponnesian War, Part II

    In this lecture, Professor Kagan focuses on the causes of the Peloponnesian War and the possible motivations for Thucydides' book, The History of the Peloponnesian War. Concerning the first point, Professor Kagan parts ways with Thucydides and argues that the war was not inevitable and that the Athenians under Pericles followed a policy of deterrence, which was aimed at peace. Similarly, he points out that there were a number of Spartans who did not want war as well. Therefore, according to this line of reasoning, war broke out due to a number of factors that were avoidable. Concerning the second point, Professor Kagan argues that Thucydides was a revisionist historian. In other words, Thucydides was writing not as a disinterested historian, but as a historian with a point to make, namely, that the war was inevitable and that Athens was only a democracy in name under Pericles. Finally, Professor Kagan acknowledges that his two points are debatable.

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Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
51 Ratings

51 Ratings

Old school leftie ,

Forbidden fruit of the classics

In a weird way I have the hysteria of contemporary woke ideology to thanks for becoming curious about the classics. If not for this factor so many of us would not now be learning about and enjoying this forbidden fruit of western heritage. And like all traditions the choice fruits lay next to rotten ones. This lecture series is perfect for that purpose of rediscovery. Both the content and delivery are excellent, and are worth all the unfortunate throat clearing. I do hope that his throat got better :)

GranusTulkas ,

Excellent lecture series

It gives a very nice overview of the militaristic side of the Greek Polis. I am going to score it 5/5 based on that.

Aside from that, I felt he overemphasized the importance of military to the development of society. He concludes that the Persians would have killed Greek culture had they conquered the Greeks; although I see no evidence for this at all. The Persians largely left the cultures of the other nations they conquered intact; and this includes many Greek Polis states.

He draws too much meaning from ancient Greece and how it is relevant to today. I don't agree that the Delian league was anything like the ideological leagues we had in the 20th century, as the leagues of classical Greece were not based around ideologies, there were no communist or fascist nations in NATO; for example. I think this is wishful thinking, and history should not be distorted in a way to make it appear applicable. It should remain solely an academic pursuit.

Also, Euripides was not suggesting the role of women was more complex; he is suggesting that there is a social problem in Athenian society. The fact that women were socially inferior to men did not take away their mind to think that they were unfairly treated.

This lecture series is great for information; but let history be history; and not something that has meaning outside of the context of that history - we have Hollywood for that...

5/5 is still deserved because he identifies his biases, and admits to uncertainty. He is not trying to pull wool over the eyes of the learned listener. He identifies his interpretation as being his interpretation.

5/5, though, for brushing over Thermopylae; I despise "300!" =)

Overall: fantastic and very interesting lecture series.

Youth666 ,

Audio File #1

I listened to the first lecture today and of course it was well received. The Professor had said that the subject matter was very interesting to some people, and that it has value for an observer of ancient civilizations. He made some comparisons.There was something to be said about our own modern world after learning about the Ancient Greeks. He portrayed some turning points as significant to a historical cronology, that we can identify with.

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