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As a pastor or ministry leader, you have a high calling. And yet, the expectations of your role and the unique challenges you face in ministry can wear you down and wipe you out.

How can you lead effectively and courageously to carry out what God has called you to do?

Let's chat, pastor to pastor.

Join Conferece Minister, Rob Thiessen, as he explores the unique challenges of ministry with local pastors, scholars, experts, and other special guests from within the Mennonite Brethren community. Brought to you by the British Columbia Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches (BCMB), the Pastor to Pastor Podcast will explore how to maintain healthy boundaries, how to dig into conflict and uncomfortable moments in ministry, and grapple with other issues in our world today.

The local church has been entrusted with the good news of Jesus Christ, so let's encourage and equip one another to be faithful and effective in our leadership.

BCMB Pastor to Pastor British Columbia Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches

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As a pastor or ministry leader, you have a high calling. And yet, the expectations of your role and the unique challenges you face in ministry can wear you down and wipe you out.

How can you lead effectively and courageously to carry out what God has called you to do?

Let's chat, pastor to pastor.

Join Conferece Minister, Rob Thiessen, as he explores the unique challenges of ministry with local pastors, scholars, experts, and other special guests from within the Mennonite Brethren community. Brought to you by the British Columbia Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches (BCMB), the Pastor to Pastor Podcast will explore how to maintain healthy boundaries, how to dig into conflict and uncomfortable moments in ministry, and grapple with other issues in our world today.

The local church has been entrusted with the good news of Jesus Christ, so let's encourage and equip one another to be faithful and effective in our leadership.

    #21 – A Thoughtful Approach to Sexuality & Gender. ft Matthew Price & Dr. Brad Harper

    #21 – A Thoughtful Approach to Sexuality & Gender. ft Matthew Price & Dr. Brad Harper

    Preaching & Discipleship
    Helping equip and inspire pastors and leaders who may be considering preaching a series on sexuality and gender identity at their church.

    We need to understand that we’re dealing with people in our midst who struggle with these realities, people who want to follow Jesus.  And if we just come out and condemn it as an immoral reality, how are we walking alongside those people? How are we understanding them? How are we understanding what their pain and suffering has been in this process?  Where’s the empathy?  There is none in that situation. – Dr. Brad Harper

     

    But we want to be grounded in the Word.  We want the Word to come alive in our conversations here.  And if there are disagreements, let’s talk about those in love. – Matthew Price

    In this podcast episode Rob addresses a tough topic that many pastors and leaders are wrestling with today, specifically around the church, our relationship, our mission, and our calling to be a community of grace and love for all people.  How do we do that with the LGBTQ community? Today Rob specifically focuses on how to preach on sexuality and gender identity. Matthew Price, lead pastor at NLCC and Dr. Brad Harper, professor at Multnomah University, share what they believe the Bible teaches us on this issue.
    Topics include

    Risks and pitfalls to be considered
    Where do Christians stand on the issue today
    Believers experiencing same sex attraction
    Needs of parents and family members
    Lies, truth and freedom

    Show Notes

    Space at the Table –  Brad & Drew Harper
    A War of Love –  David Bennett
    Torn –  Justin Lee
    Gay Christian Network-Wikipedia
    Is God anti-gay – Sam Allberry
    The Plausibility Problem – Ed Shaw
    NLCC
    Multnomah University
    L’Abri
    Francis Schaeffer
    People to be Loved –  Dr. Preston Sprinkel
    Andrew T Walker
    Mark Yarhouse
    Wesley Hills
    Chris Yuan
    Digital Leaders Forum
    Rosaria Butterfield -Wikipedia

     

     
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    BCMB 021 - A Thoughtful Approach to Sexuality.mp3 transcript powered by Sonix—easily convert your audio to text with Sonix.BCMB 021 - A Thoughtful Approach to Sexuality.mp3 was automatically transcribed by Sonix with the latest audio-to-text algorithms. This transcript may contain errors. Sonix is the best audio automated transcription service in 2020. Our automated transcription algorithms works with many of the popular audio file formats. Matthew Price: Every week I've tried to kind of encourage the conversation in life groups. We don't want to use the word to clobber, but we want to be grounded in the word. We want the word to come alive in our conversations here. And and if there are disagreements, let's talk about those in love. But let's have the dialogue in life groups.Dr. Brad Harper: I believe the Bible is the inspired word of God. To the best of my ability, I've worked hard to understand what I think it says about the issue of gay sex and gay marriage. And I, I think I understand what that is. That idea is in disagreement with my son's view of sex and marriage. So I find myself in a place where I disagree with him. But he's my son. He's my boy. And I love him. And I want to stay in a relationship with him.Welcome to the BCMB podcast, Pastor to Pastor. This is a podcast by the British Columbia Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches. We want to help equip and encourage pastors, churches and anyone else who wants to listen in and be more effective in their ministry. This is Episode 21, a thoughtful approach to sexuality and gender with Matthew Price and Dr. Brad Harper.Rob Thiessen: Hey, everyone. It's the pastor to pastor podcast, and my name is Rob Thiessen. I'm super grateful for you taking the time to listen today. And I'm also very excited about the guests that we have. This has been something I've been thinking about for a while, a chance to have Matthew Price, my

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    #20 – Faith Shaped through Community ft. Ingrid Reichard

    #20 – Faith Shaped through Community ft. Ingrid Reichard

    National Faith & Life Board – Getting to know our NFLB Director.

    There is just a real care in the M.B world to make our relationships work and to keep our accounts clean with one another. – Ingrid Reichard

     

    I mean, we don’t hold a Confession up on par with the scripture, but it is an expression of how we collectively understand the scripture and how we collectively agree to live it out. – Ingrid Reichard

    Topics include

    Role of the National Director of Faith and Life
    Ingrid’s heart for the churches and pastors
    COF, Article 8
    Believers’ baptism
    Challenges facing the church in Canada today

     
    Show Notes

    NFLT
    COF 


     
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    BCMB 020 - Faith Shaped Through Community.mp3 transcript powered by Sonix—easily convert your audio to text with Sonix.BCMB 020 - Faith Shaped Through Community.mp3 was automatically transcribed by Sonix with the latest audio-to-text algorithms. This transcript may contain errors. Sonix is the best audio automated transcription service in 2020. Our automated transcription algorithms works with many of the popular audio file formats. Ingrid Reichard: One of the lines, one of the phrases, my job description is to effectively promote the M.B heritage theology, convictions and values. We have a priority called Spiritual Health and Theology for our churches. We don't hold the confession up on par with the scripture, but it is an expression of how we collectively understand the scripture and how we collectively agree to live it out. So it's kind of our our playbook. It's our rulebook in a positive sense that it defines, you know, how we play the game. And then it also defines when you're out of bounds.Welcome to the BCMB podcast, Pastor to Pastor. This is a podcast by the British Columbia Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches. We want to help equip and encourage pastors, churches and anyone else who wants to listen in and be more effective in their ministry. This is Episode 20, Faith Shaped through Community with Ingrid Reichard.Rob Thiessen: Hey everyone, this is Rob Thiessen with the BCMB pastor to podcast. I want to welcome you today and thank you for joining us. I'm very glad, we've got an out of town guest this morning. Ingrid Reichard is with us and she comes to us from Ontario. And her role with our Conference, I'm going to let her introduce herself and just tell us a little bit about what she's doing at this point in her life. We're really grateful for you joining us today, Ingrid.Ingrid Reichard: Well, thank you, Rob. And hello to everyone who is listening. I am a subscriber to your podcast, and I really enjoy it. It's an encouragement to me personally. I live in Ontario Waterloo. And to my role with the Canadian Conference of M.B Churches is the National Faith and Life director, and the short form of that is NFL director. So sometimes I get a call the commissioner, which is fun. And yeah, I'm really, really blessed to serve in this role for the sake of all our churches.Rob Thiessen: That's interesting. I think it was this morning in the news online, I saw that a woman had broken a coaching barrier for the NFL. There was a woman that's on the, I don't know if it's at the Super Bowl or whatever. And she's part of the coaching staff. But, you know, in some ways, yeah. You're with a different NFL. Our national faith and life team. So it's really a delight to have you with us.Rob Thiessen: And Ingrid, you have you know, you've had extensive life experience in different roles and capacities. You've had some corporate experience. You also have. You know, a doctor of ministry to degree in in spiritual formation and, you know, you've really applied yourself since coming to Christ and I know I've heard your story a little bit, but why don't you share with our listeners just a little bit of your journey, your faith journey and some of

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    #19 – Learning from the Global Church: Social Justice with MCCBC. ft. Wayne Bremner

    #19 – Learning from the Global Church: Social Justice with MCCBC. ft. Wayne Bremner

    Learning from the Global Church


    Wherever we go, we are openly Christian, even in places where it’s difficult to be a Christian, MCC is openly Christian. ~Wayne Bremner


    You have to talk to the local community to say what are the most important needs and what is the best way to address them? ~ Wayne Bremner


    And so after a while, the Muslim community would say, well, these Christians must really like us, must really care about us. ~ Wayne Bremner

    This week’s episode highlights the ministry of MCC BC.  Wayne Bremner, Director of MCC, joins Rob as they talk about what it means for the church and for Christians to bear witness to their faith in in a broken world through a holistic gospel message, which is a message that MCC has been carrying for many decades.
    Topics Include

    How MCC came to existence and what defines them today
    Evangelism vs Justice
    Partnership with the Global church
    Work of MCC locally
    Resources
    Prison Ministry

     
    Show Notes

    SIM
    5 and 2 Ministries
    Place of Refuge
    CoSA
    When Love Hurts

     

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    BCMB 019 - Learning from the Global Church.mp3 transcript powered by Sonix—easily convert your audio to text with Sonix.BCMB 019 - Learning from the Global Church.mp3 was automatically transcribed by Sonix with the latest audio-to-text algorithms. This transcript may contain errors. Sonix is the best audio automated transcription service in 2020. Our automated transcription algorithms works with many of the popular audio file formats. Wayne Bremner: MCC in Ontario actually came up with a victim offender model in terms of helping offenders turn their lives around, and often we tend to think of restorative justice as letting people off the hook, but it's really the opposite because, the easier thing to do after you've committed some kind of violent act or harm somebody is to go away and hide and not change. The harder thing to do is to face them, to hear what impact your actions have had, to try to make it right to apologize and to look at yourself and say, how can I change? Wherever we go, we are openly Christian, even in places where it's difficult to be a Christian. MCC is always openly Christian.BCMB Intro: Welcome to The BCMB podcast, Pastor to Pastor. This is a podcast by the British Columbia Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches. We want to help equip and encourage pastors, churches and anyone else who wants to listen in and be more effective in their ministry. This is Episode 19, Learning from the Global Church with Wayne Bremner.Rob Thiessen: Hey everyone, welcome. This is a BCMB podcast, Pastor to Pastor, of course, it's open for anyone who wants to listen. I don't know why I named it pastor to pastor, but there it is, and we're so glad that you're with us today and very excited about our guest today. Wayne Bremner is the director of MCC B.C. and has been for a good number of years. How many years Wayne? (13 now). OK, that is a solid commitment, solid run. We really value this time together, to have a conversation about what it means for the church and for Christians to bear witness to their faith in in a broken world through a holistic gospel message, which is a message that MCC has been carrying for many, many decades. And maybe just to get to know you a bit personally, Wayne, why don't you share with us a little bit about the role of community in your own faith formation?Wayne Bremner: Ok, well, I think I would start with my family because that's the I guess, the birthing place for faith in many people's lives. It was for me, I came from a traditional Mennonite family. My grandfather was an evangelist and a city missionary. My grandma and grandpa were Henry and Sarah Klassen, and they were known in the day as City Missionary Klassen. So if you talk to people over 60 years, especially over 70, they probably will remember that and maybe even volunteering an

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    #18 – Inspired by God and Applicable Today: Remaining under the authority of scripture in our cultural setting ft. Kristal Toews & Iain Provan

    #18 – Inspired by God and Applicable Today: Remaining under the authority of scripture in our cultural setting ft. Kristal Toews & Iain Provan

    People could not understand Jesus in John without knowing the Old Testament. Like, he talks about being the ‘bread of life’ and the ‘light of the world’ and the ‘living water’ or ‘providing living water’ and the ‘vine and the branches’ and the ‘good shepherd’ and all that is Old Testament imagery. And so if you throw that all under the bus, you’re left with a picture of Jesus that you don’t understand. ~ Kristal Toews

     

    Yes. I mean, wisdom is very important, reason is very important, experience is important, these are things all important. The question is, though, when it comes down to where do you go to really settle the question? ~ Dr. Iain Provan

     
    With a wealth of access to a diversity of opinions and teachings on the Bible and its role in our lives, we are tasked with the tough job of sorting through the information and discerning what the truth truly is.
    Is the Old Testament saying the same thing as the New Testament and is it outdated or applicable today? Where should our focus be in our preaching? What do we do when we find apparent “contradictions” in the Bible? How can we lead people to make Godly decisions about issues that are not directly mentioned in scripture?

    Well I think the central guideline is that if we’re reading the New Testament as saying things different from the Old Testament, we’re doing something wrong already and we ought to stop and think. ~ Dr. Iain Provan

    Join Kristal Toews, Dr. Iain Provan, and Rob Thiessen as they discuss some of the current questions and topics facing our pastors and churches today with regards to the Word of God. Listen as they hash through some of the language being used, warn of some dangerous paths to avoid, and as they speak about some of the challenges that pastors may face in interpreting the Bible and in helping others to understand it faithfully.
    Topics Include

    The impact of the Gospel
    Relevance vs. Felt Needs
    Focus on Jesus OR the Bible
    Old Testament vs. New Testament
    Re-imagining God
    Wrestling with current issues where we lack a proof text

    Show Notes

    Marcionism – Wikepedia
    Echoes of Scripture in the Gospels by Richard Hays (Reverberations of Christ Throughout Scripture class that Kristal refers to)

     

     
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    BCMB 018 - Kristal Toews & Iain Provan.mp3 transcript powered by Sonix—easily convert your audio to text with Sonix.BCMB 018 - Kristal Toews & Iain Provan.mp3 was automatically transcribed by Sonix with the latest audio-to-text algorithms. This transcript may contain errors. Sonix is the best audio automated transcription service in 2020. Our automated transcription algorithms works with many of the popular audio file formats. Iain Provan: Well I think the central guideline is that if we're reading the New Testament as saying things different from the Old Testament, we're doing something wrong already and we ought to stop and think.Kristal Toews: People could not understand Jesus in John without knowing the Old Testament. Like, he talks about being the 'bread of life' and the 'light of the world' and the 'living water' or 'providing living water' and the 'vine and the branches' and the 'good shepherd' and all that is Old Testament imagery. And so if you throw that all under the bus, you're left with a picture of Jesus that you don't understand.Iain Provan: Yes. I mean, wisdom is very important, reason is very important, experience is important, these are things all important. The question is, though, when it comes down to where do you go to really settle the question?BCMB Intro: Welcome to the BCMB podcast. Pastor to Pastor, this is a podcast by the British Columbia Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches. We want to help equip and encourage pastors, churches and anyone else who wants to listen in and be more effective in

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    #17 – Fostering a Healthy Relationship: Prayer ft. Phil Collins

    #17 – Fostering a Healthy Relationship: Prayer ft. Phil Collins

    It’s that difference between discipline and legalism. ~Phil Collins
    And what does Paul say? He says -in 1 Timothy 4 verse 7 – he talks about that we should train ourselves and discipline ourselves. What is the Greek word there? It means: throw off everything that encumbers you, because in the athletic world, they would actually strip off and become naked and they would then do their exercise. And I think one of the problems is, is that we’re not willing to take off things around us that actually stop us from exercising the discipline we should spiritually. – Phil Collins

    Seems like a no-brainer. I’m a pastor, of course I pray! But do you set aside time for this specifically? How many of us are truly confident in the richness of our prayer time and make it a priority in our busy lives? Would those we lead say with conviction, “He/She is absolutely devoted to prayer.” ?
    This week’s episode highlights how prayer can enrich our lives, our ministry, and our relationship with God. Join Rob and Phil as they discuss some practical tips to help us develop this often minimized, yet critical aspect of our lives as Christians. Listen, as Phil challenges us to develop the discipline of prayer in our lives and to throw off those things that encumber us and prevent us from experiencing the joy, freedom, and self-care that this time can bring. No matter where your prayer life is at, we hope you will be blessed and encouraged by what you hear in their conversation.
    Topics Include

    Key moments that shaped Phil’s prayer life
    A prayer routine
    The freedom and value that comes from meditating on scripture
    Where to start
    How to add variety
    Spiritual Discipline versus Legalism
    Things that get in the way of a great prayer life
    How to develop a prayer culture in the church

    Show Notes

    George Müller – Wikepedia
    George Muller Website
    Following in the Footsteps of Christ: The Anabaptist Tradition (Traditions of Christian Spirituality) – Arnold Snyder

    Desert Fathers
    Peter Greig
    Ray Duerksen – Steinbach – Church Renewal
    The Divine Mentor – Wayne Cordeiro



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    BCMB 017 - Prayer with Phil Collins.mp3 transcript powered by Sonix—easily convert your audio to text with Sonix.BCMB 017 - Prayer with Phil Collins.mp3 was automatically transcribed by Sonix with the latest audio-to-text algorithms. This transcript may contain errors. Sonix is the best audio automated transcription service in 2020. Our automated transcription algorithms works with many of the popular audio file formats. Phil Collins: It's that difference between discipline and legalism.Phil Collins: And what does Paul say? He says - in 1 Timothy 4 verse 7 - he talks about that we should train ourselves and discipline ourselves. What is the Greek word there? It means: throw off everything that encumbers you, because in the athletic world, they would actually strip off and become naked and they would then do their exercise. And I think one of the problems is, is that we're not willing to take off things around us that actually stop us from exercising the discipline we should spiritually.BCMB Intro: Welcome to the BCMB podcast, Pastor to Pastor. This is a podcast by the British Columbia Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches. We want to help equip and encourage pastors, churches and anyone else who wants to listen in and be more effective in their ministry. This is Episode 17 'Prayer' with Phil Collins.Rob Thiessen: All right. Hey, everyone. Rob Thiessen here, I'm the conference minister with the BCMB Churches. And this is our Pastor to Pastor podcast. We're very, very glad that you've joined us for this important topic. Today we're chatting with Phil Collins from the Willow Park Church in Kelowna and our topic today is 'prayer'. So, Phil, why don't you just start by introducing a little bit about yourself and maybe weave in a bit of your p

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    #16 – Introducing our BCMB Executive Board Moderator: Perseverance & Lessons Learned ft. Sharon Simpson

    #16 – Introducing our BCMB Executive Board Moderator: Perseverance & Lessons Learned ft. Sharon Simpson

    You have to open up a space in your life – that was a day’s work gone – open that space up and ask God, “How will you let me walk into it?” I don’t think that you can have that kind of impact in people’s lives, if you don’t have some, like, literal time and give the people the feeling that – if you need me, if you’re in that situation, I’m here for you. I think when you have a posture of curiosity and interest, people like that. You know, I think about the people that I like being with the most, they’re interested in me. They’re interested in the things that I’m doing. They ask questions to follow up and, you know, so I’ve looked at that and I think I want to mirror that in my life. I want to be a person that’s interested in another person, that finds out something. ~ Sharon Simpson

    Many of you have not had the opportunity to meet our Executive Board Moderator, even though she has been a part of our team at BCMB for some time now and you have likely seen her on stage at some of our past Convention AGMs. Join Rob Thiessen as he walks with Sharon Simpson through some of the experiences that have shaped her life. We hope to give you a small window into the heart of the woman who is an integral part of our leadership.
    TOPICS INCLUDE

    Great beginnings
    Some tough times in ministry
    Some surprising means God has used to His glory
    How putting yourself  ‘out there’ in an authentic way, can be a blessing
    The value of investing time and love into other people

    SHOW NOTES

    Broadway MB Church
    Menno Place, Abbotsford



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    BCMB 016 - Introducing our BCMB Moderator.mp3 transcript powered by Sonix—easily convert your audio to text with Sonix.BCMB 016 - Introducing our BCMB Moderator.mp3 was automatically transcribed by Sonix with the latest audio-to-text algorithms. This transcript may contain errors. Sonix is the best audio automated transcription service in 2020. Our automated transcription algorithms works with many of the popular audio file formats. Sharon Simpson: You have to open up a space in your life - that was a day's work gone - open that space up and ask God, "How will you let me walk into it?" I don't think that you can have that kind of impact in people's lives, if you don't have some, like, literal time and give the people the feeling that - if you need me, if you're in that situation, I'm here for you. I think when you have a posture of curiosity and interest, people like that. You know, I think about the people that I like being with the most, they're interested in me. They're interested in the things that I'm doing. They ask questions to follow up and, you know, so I've looked at that and I think I want to mirror that in my life. I want to be a person that's interested in another person, that finds out something.BCMB Intro: Welcome to the BCMB podcast. Pastor to Pastor, this is a podcast by the British Columbia Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches. We want to help equip and encourage pastors, churches and anyone else who wants to listen in and be more effective in their ministry.BCMB Intro: This is Episode 16, introducing our BCMB Executive Board Moderator, Sharon Simpson.Rob Thiessen: All right. Hey, everyone, it's Rob Thiessen. The BC Conference - What am I? I'm the BC Conference Pastor. And just really welcome you to our podcast here. It's Monday morning, rainy, Monday morning in October. And I'm very excited to have, in the studio with me today, Sharon Simpson. Sharon, you are our British Columbia Mennonite Brethren Executive Board Moderator. Sharon Simpson: That's a long one.Rob Thiessen: Yes. Which is like the chairperson. And you have been in this leadership role, well you've been serving with us for, I don't know, like three or four years now and giving leadership over this past year and it's

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