342 episodes
Cold War Conversations Ian Sanders
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4.9 • 52 Ratings
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Award-winning real stories of the Cold War told by those who were there. Every week we interview an eyewitness of the Cold War.
Across soldiers, spies, civilians, and others, we aim to cover the whole range of Cold War experiences. Hosts Ian Sanders, James Chilcott, and Peter Ryan bring your ears into the heart of the Cold War.
Reading a history book is one thing, but hearing a human voice, with every breath, hesitation and intonation brings a whole new dimension to understanding what it was like to be there.
We cover subjects such as spies, spying, the Iron Curtain, nuclear weapons, warfare, tanks, jet aircraft, fighters, bombers, transport aircraft, aviation, culture, and politics.
We also cover personalities such as Fidel Castro, JFK, Ronald Reagan, Nikita Khrushchev, Leonid Brezhnev, Yuri Andropov, Mikhail Gorbachev, Konstantin Chernenko, Margaret Thatcher, John F. Kennedy, Josef Stalin, Richard Nixon, Lech Walesa, General Jaruzelski, Nicolae Ceaușescu.
Other subjects include Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Romania, Checkpoint Charlie, Berlin, West Berlin, East Berlin, Cuban missile Crisis, Berlin Airlift, Bay of Pigs, SALT, Perestroika, Space Race, superpower, USSR, Soviet Union, DDR, GDR, East Germany, SDI, Vietnam War, Korean War, Solidarność, Fall of the Wall, Berliner Mauer, Trabant, Communist, Capitalist, Able Archer, KGB, Stasi, STB, SB, Securitate, CIA, NSA, MI5, MI6, Berlin Wall, escape, defection, Cuba, Albania, football, sport, Bulgaria, Soviet Union, Poland, China, Taiwan, Austria, West Germany, Solidarity, espionage, HUMINT, SIGINT, OSINT, IMINT, GEOINT, RAF, USAF, British Army, US Army, Red Army, Soviet Army, Afghanistan, NVA, East German Army, KAL007, T-72, T-64, Chieftain, M60
The podcast is for military veterans, school teachers, university lecturers, students and those interested in Cold War history, museums, bunkers, weapons, AFVs, wargaming, planes, A Level, GCSE students
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My friend the Bridge of Spies spy - Part 2
Burt recounts the surreal experience of learning about Fisher's true identity from a newspaper headline, the subsequent FBI interrogations, and the emotional courtroom testimony where he struggled to reconcile his friendship with the stark reality of espionage.
Burt's journey leads him to Moscow in a failed attempt to reconnect with Fisher, revealing a labyrinthine world of secrets and paranoia. He shares a heartfelt letter he left for Fisher, expressing regret and longing for a simpler time when art, not intrigue, was their common ground.
As a testament to the personal connection they shared, Burt unveils a handcrafted wooden box—a wedding gift made by Fisher himself—symbolizing the genuine human connection that endured despite the shadowy world they navigated.
This episode is a poignant exploration of identity, memory, and the complex human relationships that defy the black-and-white narrative of the Cold War.
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My friend the Bridge of Spies spy - Part 1
In a riveting episode that peels back the layers of Cold War espionage, we sit down with Burt, an artist who unwittingly befriended a man better known as Colonel Abel, the infamous Bridge of Spies Spy who was exchanged for shot down US U2 pilot Gary Powers.
Burt knew Abel as Emil Goldfuss but his real name was Willie Fisher from Newcastle Upon Tyne in England. Fisher was a Soviet agent deeply embedded in the fabric of New York City's bustling art scene.
Burt's tale unfolds in a studio building exclusively for artists, where he first crossed paths with Fisher in an old-fashioned elevator—an encounter that would mark the beginning of an unexpected friendship.
Burt reminisces about their shared moments, from the peculiar request for a cup of turpentine to late-night discussions surrounded by the haze of cigarette smoke. He reflects on the nuances of their bond, the fatherly figure he saw in Fisher, and the mutual need for companionship that transcended the spy's professional obligations.
Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode341/
Don’t miss part two of this amazing conversation next week…
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A Diver Sapper in the Cold War Soviet Navy
Valeriy was a Soviet Navy diver sapper and was born and raised in Kyiv, Ukraine. I have used a human translator for this episode so the main voice you will hear is my translator Galina Ryabova who was kindly funded by one of my financial supporters
Valeriy opens up about his childhood, the impact of the Great Patriotic War on his family, and his mother's resilience in raising him after his father's untimely death. He shares insights into his schooling, where history and geography sparked his curiosity, and his early military training which set the stage for his specialised role in the Soviet Navy.
Valeriy offers a rare glimpse into the life of a Soviet Navy diver sapper, trained in both underwater firearms and explosives, tasked with clearing mines to pave the way for naval infantry. He provides revealing insights into underwater warfare during the 1980s.
His unit was stationed near Kaliningrad, where he describes his equipment and the day-to-day life that included guarding, surveillance, and rigorous half-yearly military exercises.
Reflecting on the broader scope of the Cold War, Valeri discusses his perceptions of the US and NATO, the political climate under Gorbachev, and the aftermath of the USSR's dissolution.
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Gymnastics and Pills: An East German Childhood
Sirka offers a comprehensive exploration of life in East Germany, detailing the experiences of growing up in Neubrandenburg, the influence of the East German state and the Stasi, and the societal impacts of Mikhail Gorbachev's policies leading up to the fall of the Berlin Wall.
She also talks of her intensive gymnastics training and being given pills by her trainer...
Sirka also describes the transition to reunification, highlighting the challenges of adapting to a new economic system and the mixed feelings toward sudden exposure to Western consumer culture.
Additionally, it includes a reflective conversation on post-reunification life in Germany, discussing Sirka's and her family's adjustment to the changes, including the effects on employment, homeownership, and personal political histories.
Video and photo extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode339
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You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.
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00:00 Preview
00:22 Welcome to Cold War Conversations
00:36 Life in East Germany: An Insider's Perspective
01:50 Circa's Childhood and Family Life in Neubrandenburg
03:33 The Impact of World War II on Family Histories
05:42 Navigating Post-War East Germany
07:53 The East German Regime Through a Family's Eyes
10:31 Cultural and Educational Experiences in East Germany
23:23 The Challenges of Consumer Goods and Entertainment
25:39 School Life and Education in East Germany
34:17 Extracurricular Activities: Singing Club and Gymnastics
44:58 The Intensity of Gymnastics Training in East Germany
46:15 The Secret Gymnastics Pills
48:14 The Grueling Training Regime and Its Impact
49:46 The Power of Music and Discipline in a Regimented Society
50:38 The Harsh Realities of Military-Style Training
51:39 Life Under an Autocratic System: Acceptance and Adaptation
55:26 The Transition to College and the End of Gymnastics
55:56 Exploring Moscow: A Glimpse into the Space Race
01:03:37 Witnessing the Winds of Change: The Fall of the Berlin Wall
01:14:21 Navigating the New World: Post-Wall Challenges and Reflections
01:25:05 A Journey Back in Time: Revisiting Memories and the Stasi Files
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The Soviet Afghan War
The Soviet-Afghan War lasted ten years between 1979-1989 and led to the deaths of between 500k and 2m Afghan civilians.
I speak with Nick Geering a Russian history and language teacher. From his memories of the haunting sight of uniformed amputees in St Petersburg to the complex origins of the conflict, we explore the intricacies of a war that was both an accident and a tragedy.
Our conversation traverses the murky politics that led to the Soviet invasion, the unpreparedness of the conscript-heavy Soviet army, and the brutal reality of life for soldiers caught in the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan. We also discuss the question of international support for the Mujahideen and the controversial impact of Western-supplied weaponry.
The episode also shines a light on the deeply entrenched hierarchy within the Soviet military, harrowing drug abuse among troops, and the chilling treatment of prisoners of war on both sides. As we approach the subject of the Soviet withdrawal, we reflect on the war's enduring scars, the fate of the communist Afghan government, and how the conflict is remembered today in Russia.
Video and photo extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode338
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00:00 Introduction to the Complexity of the Soviet-Afghan War
00:26 Diving Deep into the Soviet-Afghan War with Nick Gearing
01:38 Nick Gearing's Personal Journey and Initial Exposure to War Veterans
03:13 Exploring the Intricacies and Origins of the Soviet-Afghan War
16:17 The Soviet Military's Challenges and Adaptations in Afghanistan
28:52 Evaluating the Soviet Strategy and Its Impact on the War
32:51 Unveiling the Truth: The Soviet Union's Hidden War
33:44 Gorbachev's Legacy and the Path to Peace
34:27 Glasnost and the Afghan War: A Shift in Soviet Media
37:19 The Impact of Western Weapons on the Afghan Battlefield
39:31 The Unseen Side of War: Defections and Captivity
44:24 The Brutal Reality of Conscript Life in the Soviet Army
48:46 Drug Abuse Among Soviet Soldiers in Afghanistan
50:47 The Endgame: Soviet Withdrawal and the Geneva Accords
53:22 Najibullah's Struggle and the Fate of the Communist Government
54:46 Revisiting the Afghan War: Memory and Media in Russia
57:51 Exploring the Soviet-Afghan War Through Books, Films, and Music
01:03:17 Closing Thoughts and Acknowledgments
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Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War Podcast
Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War, is a nine-part documentary series from director Brian Knappenberger, that provides a comprehensive appraisal of the events that led to the Cold War and traces the conflict around the world and through the decades.
While the Cold War ended in 1991, even a casual appraisal of current headlines reveals that relations between the United States and Russia — the one-time centre of the Soviet Union — remain tense, to say the least. The global repercussions of the Cold War continue to ripple through the current geopolitical landscape to this day, but it can be difficult to understand just how a mid-20th century struggle for ideological dominance continues to ensnare countless nations in ongoing unrest.
To tell this story, the series draws on more than 100 interviews with subjects ranging from past and present world leaders (Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas) to historians as well as everyday people whose lives were drastically altered by the events of the Cold War. As the history unfolds, each episode considers the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine as an example of how the history being examined is directly tied to the events of today. “Nearly every part of the war in Ukraine is an echo of the Cold War,” Knappenberger explains.
Watch the series here https://www.netflix.com/title/81614129
Watch the trailer here https://youtu.be/qHuuLo-CSRo?si=ZaNGZyeP0nZe5Nwp
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00:00 The Chilling Call: A Cold War Nightmare
00:21 Welcome to Cold War Conversations
00:39 Inside 'Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War' Documentary
01:02 The Cold War's Legacy and Today's Nuclear Threats
03:15 The Making of a Cold War Documentary
05:09 Why the Cold War Story Matters Now
06:17 The New Cold War: A Hot and Unstable Conflict
10:24 The Munich Security Conference: A Turning Point
13:32 Crafting the Documentary: Challenges and Insights
15:06 Personal Connections and the Impact of Nuclear Weapons
19:32 The Importance of First-Person Cold War Accounts
19:59 Daniel Ellsberg: A Courageous Insider's Perspective
23:19 Uncovered Stories: The Challenges of Time Constraints
23:46 Exploring Untold Cold War Stories
24:37 The Intriguing Case of the AIDS Misinformation Campaign
28:14 The Ripple Effects of Cold War Decisions
28:45 Project Sapphire: Securing Nuclear Materials Post-Soviet Union
30:47 The Budapest Memorandum and Ukraine's Nuclear Dilemma
34:43 Post-Cold War Transitions and the Rise of Putin
41:18 Reflecting on the Series: Favorite Moments and Missed Opportunities
44:48 Dream Interviews: Cold War Figures Who Left a Mark
49:03 Closing Thoughts and Acknowledgments
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Customer Reviews
If only all history was ‘taught’ like this,
… we mightn’t be so lost today. Since stumbling upon Cold War Conversations, my Netflix is unwatched, the books on my nightstand are gathering dust, and I’ve not been to the pub in a while. In the last week alone I’ve listened to 30 hours worth of fascinating first person accounts and detailed analysis of things I’m likely not to learn about from anywhere else. It’s becoming obvious that what may have started as Cold War Conversations is well on its way to being The Real Cold War Encyclopedia. One of the best podcasts ever.
Berlin Wall Shadows - Cold War, I was there.
When memories of the events fade, when your own past begins to turn into history, when decades have gone by, it is fantastic that stories with a great bandwidth are being told and collected, as it happens here by Ian Sanders for the Cold War Conversations Podcast.
It is important to collect this diversity of experiences for future generations to hear.
Prepare to find a relaxed yet informative approach to personal stories from people who were there. People of different stages of life, who lived during the time period of the Cold War. People who were right in the middle of it.
Be fascinated by a variety of first hand stories. Learn about the events that unfolded. Feel as if you are in a direct conversation with witnesses who are sharing with you their very personal accounts of those moving times.
Ian Sanders does it: “Recording the stories of the Cold War before they are lost ... “
I was detained in East Berlin
Like your pod cast. Was 1972 In TA reserve trained NBC warfare. 1974 hitch hiked to Berlin went through Check Point Charlie . 1986 spent month in Hungary talked to many East Germans.Sept 1989 took my wife around Europe. Got train Munich to Berlin. On train in DDR border guard gave me a second visit they had a hit on me. Took my wife through Check Point Charlie into East Berlin. Was detained question by 2 North Korean in civilian cloths. Asking if I was military. I guess I had a stasi file. 4 weeks later the wall fell. DDR gone.