Welcome to The Compassion Initiative Podcast Series. This Podcast series features Dr Stan Steindl and Dr James Kirby, both Clinical Psychologists. Stan and James are the co-founders of The Compassion Initiative. The podcast series is a relaxed informal ongoing conversation between Stan and James about issues related to compassion. You can access and subscribe to the Podcast on our website: www.thecompassioninitiative.com.au
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session With Ross McIntosh
"I am a human like you."
Ross McIntosh is an organisational and coaching psychologist in the UK. He focuses on cultivating psychological well-being and flexibility in organisations and individuals. He’s worked for over 20 years senior HR roles in government, and now consults with organisations and individuals in the public and private sectors, as well as researching and lecturing at City, University of London in organisational psychology. He hosts People Soup Podcast - nourishing the mind, flourishing at work - where he interviews a wide range of people in the fields of psychological well-being, acceptance and commitment therapy, and compassion.
4:32 Tell us a little bit about yourself, your work, your life.
13:06 Noticing with curiosity and kindness.
16:09 What are your thoughts around the concept of curiosity?
21:12 How do you communicate the concept of kindness to the people you are working with?
25:18 What are some of the challenges you face working with curiosity, kindness, compassion and psychological flexibility?
35:38 A metaphor for the human mind - different selves around the boardroom table.
39:15 What are your thoughts regarding empathy in leadership?
43:29 Tell us about the People Soup Podcast.
47:27 What are some of the projects coming up for you, what's coming next?
51:30 What are three tips you would offer others who are making their way on their own compassionate journey?
55:39 How can people find you, or engage with you and your work?
Twitter - @PeopleSoupPod
Instagram - @people.soup
Facebook - @PeopleSoupPod
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session With Tara Hickey
"Compassion, not just for ourselves and those around us, but for other living creatures and the planet itself!"
Dr Tara Hickey is a clinical psychologist in private practice at Victorian Counselling and Psychological Services (VCPS), as well as an adjunct research fellow at Monash University and University of Sydney. She recently completed her PhD on mindfulness and compassion, piloting and evaluating a mindfulness and compassion focused group program for youth with psychosis. She is also the Victorian representative for Compassionate Mind Australia (CMA).
3:32 Tell us a little bit about yourself.
6:33 What approaches were you originally using with young people at risk of psychosis?
10:02 How did you bring more compassion focused therapy into your work?
11:43 The PhD research brought together early intervention, mindfulness and compassion focused approaches.
16:50 How did young people receive the psychoeducation component of CFT?
18.37 How do you see the experience of psychosis and the three circles model fitting together?
25:55 What compassion skills were incorporated into the group for young people?
30:46 What were some of the challenges you noticed working with young people with compassion?
35:35 Can you describe some of the results of your research?
42:04 How have compassion and self-compassion found their way into your life, or made a difference for you?
45:10 What's next for you in terms of current or future projects?
48:40 What are three tips you would offer others who are making their way on their own compassionate journey?
51:20 Where can people find you, engage with you and/or your work?
Evidence Map of Mindfulness for Stages of Psychosis: State of the Literature and Implications for Future Research https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12671-021-01611-x
The MAC‐P program: A pilot study of a mindfulness and compassion program for youth with psychotic experiences https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eip.13085
The potential role of self-criticism in distress related to attenuated psychotic symptoms and implications for clinical trajectory https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920996420303753?via%3Dihub
Mindfulness and compassion for youth with psychotic symptoms: A description of a group program and a consumer’s experience https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17522439.2019.1639800?journalCode=rpsy20
The use of formal criteria to assess psychological models of hallucinations: a systematic review https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17522439.2019.1607892?journalCode=rpsy20
Application of a mindfulness and compassion-based approach to the at-risk mental state: Mindfulness, compassion and the ARMS https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cp.12132?journalCode=rcnp20
VCPS - https://www.vcps.com.au/clinical-psychologist/dr-tara-hickey
CMA - https://www.compassionatemind.org.au/
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session With Mats Hogmark
“Compassion brings light and it brings hope into the darkest of stories.”
Dr Mats Hogmark is a medical doctor specialising in general medicine at Darlana County Council in Sweden. He is also a motivational interviewing trainer and member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT). He runs training and seminars on motivational interviewing and communication skills with professionals in health care and social services.
3.43 Tell us a little bit about yourself, your work, your life.
6.50 What does your working week entail?
10.07 Feeling safe in the context of a longterm working relationship.
12.19 Sometimes you can form a relationship and create safeness quite quickly.
14.22 Fine tuning facial expressions, body posture and voice tone to express warmth, openness and empathy.
16.59 Carefully choosing what to say and what not to say to help create safeness.
19.06 Dividing the consultation into three parts: the patient's part, the doctor's part, and the mutual part at the end.
20.28 The patient's part involves: Ideas--Concerns--Expectations (ICE).
25.46 A compassionate conversation is a conversation between two experts.
30.37 Taking the lower place, elevating those who we are working with.
35.28 A compassionate outlook towards others, and towards oneself.
36.53 When the clinician's threat system is activated too.
39.27 Considering compassion fatigue or physician burnout.
40.42 How do you offer yourself compassion, how do you look after your self-care?
44.25 Compassion and self-compassion can involve joy.
46.52 A Carl Rogers quote.
48.17 A Bill Miller quote.
49.51 How can people find you or engage with you and your work?
51.03 Three tips for others making their way on their own compassionate journeys.
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session With Matt Le Mare
“Music is a part of my identity, my work, my leisure, my humanness.”
Matt Le Mare is a British Association of Music Therapy (BAMT) registered music therapist presently working with elders with dementia and a variety of private clients. Matt also trains music therapists at Derby University where he encountered compassion focussed therapy (CFT) and trained as a CFT practitioner with Paul Gilbert. Matt is very interested in how compassion can be used alongside music therapy and has blended it into his approach with clients.
3.05 What does music mean to you?
7.15 What was it like to feel enchanted by music?
11.17 Matt Le Mare first hears about Professor Paul Gilbert!
14.17 Music as an expression of a compassionate motivation.
19.53 Tell us a bit about how music can also activate threat or drive systems.
22.22 How might you integrate music into your practice of CFT?
27.14 What are some examples of the successes, or where bringing music into CFT has been helpful?
34.07 Would you mind playing us some music?
38.44 What about the role of the instrument or musical preferences?
40.44 What are some of the challenges you have encountered working with compassion and music?
44.26 Music helps us embody the compassionate self.
45.15 What current projects do you have on the go?
47.16 How can people access your musical pieces?
49.56 What are three tips you would offer others who are making their way on their compassionate journey?
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session With Dr Julia Wahl
"Practicing and cultivating compassion throughout our whole lives."
Dr Julia E. Wahl, PhD, psychologist, mindfulness and compassion trainer, lecturer, director of the post-grad studies in mindfulness and compassion at the Social Sciences and Humanities SWPS University in Poznań; director of the Mind Institute, Warsaw; Proactive Leadership Training Programme; CFT/CMT Poland; Professional Training Programme in Mindfulness for Children and Adolescents (Mindfulness for the Future).
2.58 Tell us a little bit about yourself, your work, your life.
7.25 Are certain people drawn to compassion, does compassion grow on you, or both?
8.43 What do we mean when we say compassion feels like a good fit?
9.47 Being the Devil's Advocate: We need to be careful with our tricky brains!
13.12 Being wise and aware in the growing CFT community, especially regarding diversity and inclusivity.
18.02 Mindfulness and compassion as commodities.
20.30 Compassion in other areas of society: leadership, business, healthcare, education.
26.17 What is "disinterested thinking"?
30.40 Is humility another important quality of the compassionate mind?
31.07 The importance of understanding our own blindspots.
35.29 Compassion is not the same as being nice or feeling good.
40.17 Returning to our compassionate intentions.
44.25 Can intention be compromised by blindspots and unconscious biases?
48.18 Set intentions, take actions, review and reflect, including identifying blindspots and unconscious biases, and re-setting intentions.
51.07 Practicing and cultivating compassion throughout our whole lives.
53.49 How can people find you and engage with you and your work?
Dr Julia E. Wahl
The Mind Institute
SWPS University of Social Sciences and Humanities
Proactive Leadership Academy
Polish Mindfulness School
Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session With Lisa McLean
"The shame is not for survivors to carry."
Dr Lisa McLean is a psychologist in private practice at Ocean Psychology, Sunshine Coast, Australia who provides support to adults across a wide range of mental health and other life concerns. Lisa offers a safe, warm, and compassionate space where clients are empowered to create positive change. Lisa has over twenty years’ experience working across private practice and community-based settings, and has a special interest in working with clients who have been impacted by trauma. Her PhD was titled "Compassion focused therapy (CFT) as a group-based intervention for adult female survivors of childhood sexual abuse" and her findings shed light on the possibilities of CFT being particularly helpful for this client group.
2.02 Tell us a bit about yourself, your work, your life.
4.20 How do you use compassion focused therapy in your work?
12.55 Tell us a bit about embarking on your PhD research.
15.31 How did your PhD research evolve from that core motivation?
28.39 What are some of the challenges you face taking a CFT approach with people who have experienced trauma?
48.01 How have compassion and self-compassion found their way into your life or made a difference for you personally?
50.59 What projects are you working on next?
51.52 What are three tips you would offer others who are making their way on their own compassionate journey?
54.19 How can people find you and engage with you and your work?
Perspectives on Self-Compassion From Adult Female Survivors of Sexual Abuse and the Counselors Who Work With Them. [ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0886260518793975 ]
Compassion-Focused Therapy as an Intervention for Adult Survivors of Sexual Abuse. [ https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10538712.2017.1390718?journalCode=wcsa20 ]