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22-year-old woman poses as homeschooled teen to gain access to middle school age boys. Porch pirates are getting creative!

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Fifteen days after Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley are reported missing, the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation announced the recovery of two bodies. The identity of the remains has not be confirmed as yet, but we do know the remains have been sent to the Oklahoma Medical examiner's office for identification, as well as the cause and manner of death. 

Initially police said there was evidence of suspicious circumstances in Veronica Butler‘s car. That evidence was a small amount of blood inside the vehicle.  Police have now released new information.  The vehicle was found on a dirt path, 1,000 feet off of Oklahoma State Highway 95 and near the car, police find multiple puddles of blood, leading investigator to conclude the woman were shot, before they were abducted.   

Reports began to surface that a caravan of law enforcement vehicles including swat teams was traveling in the panhandle of Oklahoma.  Local reporters said there were some 20 vehicles including swat and other law enforcement vehicles in Cimarron County which split into two groups. One group went to the home of Tifany Adams, the ex-mother-in-law of Veronica Butler, while the other group of law enforcement traveled to a different location in Cimarron County. 

The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation has now announced four people have been arrested in connection with the disappearance of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley.   Tiffany Adams, the ex-mother-in-law of Veronica Butler, and Adams boyfriend, Tad Cullum, are in custody.   Cole Twombly and Cora Twombly were also arrested, all four taken to the Texas County Jail.  They each person faces 2 counts of suspicion of first-degree murder, 2 counts of kidnapping, and 1 count of conspiracy to commit first-degree murder. 

 

Joining Nancy Grace Today:


James Shelnutt - 27 years Atlanta Metro Area Major Case Detective, Former S.W.A.T. officer, Attorney (Gadsden, AL), The Shelnutt Law Firm, P.C., Fmr judge and municipal prosecutor ShelnuttLawFirm.com, Twitter: @ShelnuttLawFirm
Tim Jansen -  Criminal defense lawyer and fmr. Federal Prosecutor, Legal Analyst for Tallahassee Democrat’s Newspaper
Caryn L. Stark - Psychologist, renowned TV and Radio trauma expert and consultant, www.carynstark.com, Instagram: carynpsych, FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice 
Dr. William Morrone - Medical Examiner, Toxicologist, Pathologist, opioid treatment expert, Author: “American Narcan:Naloxone & Heroin-Fentanyl associated mortality”
Lauren Conlin - Investigative journalist, Host of The Outlier Podcast. Host of Corruption: What Happened to Grant Solomon, https://laurenconlin.com, X- @Conlin_Lauren, Instagram- @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube- @LaurenConlin4

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Man arrested in connection with shooting that injured three. Angry customer smacks employee in the face with a bible on Easter Sunday. 

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AUTOPSY REPORT WILL NOT BE RELEASED. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happened to Madeline Soto and Dave Mack will dig into the back story of the entire family. You will find out by the time she reached 13-years-old, Madeline Soto had already been sexually abused for years. When she was a “missing 13-year-old" from Florida, the news covered every tidbit of information about the search for the teen. One piece of evidence that made it to the press was how Madeline Soto told a friend when she turned 13, she was going to live in the woods. That is why police searched the woods for Madeline.  

 

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Transcript Highlights 

00:00:28 Introduction, talk about parents protecting children 

00:04:28 Talk about Madeline Soto saying she wanted to live in the woods 

00:05:31 Discussion of ages 12 and 13 

00:09:04 Discussion of Madeline not taking cell phone 

00:12:29 Talk about family being told about evidence 

00:16:42 Discussion of time children go to school 

00:20:07 Discussion of Madeline Soto seen in vehicle 

00:21:49 Talk about being haunted by evidence 

00:26:26 Discussion of Madeline Soto 

00:30:26 Talk about video surveillance of suspect 

00:33:22 Discussion of 60 charges against suspect  

00:37:32 Discussion of evidence of previous abuse 
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Elijah Vue, 3, is still missing.

The toddler was last seen at the home of her mother's boyfriend, Jesse Vang. Vang had been taking care of the boy for about a month to reportedly help mother Katrina Baur with care and discipline.

The day Vue vanished, Vang said he was disciplining the boy, ordering him to stand next to Vang's bed and pray. Vang fell asleep. Three hours later, when Vang woke up the boy was gone.

Both Vang and Baur have been arrested, and charged with crimes related to child neglect.  A judge had paved the way for Vang to be tried. 

Joining Nancy Grace Today:


Darryl Cohen – Former Assistant District Attorney (Fulton County, Georgia) Former Assistant State Attorney (Florida), and Defense Attorney: Cohen, Cooper, Estep, & Allen, LLC; Facebook: “Darryl B Cohen;” X: @DarrylBCohen
Thomas E. Fischer - Fmr. Milwaukee Police Detective, Owner/Chief Investigator for Thomas Fischer Investigations LLC
Mike Hadsell – President and Founder, Peace River K9 Search and Rescue; X: @K9River
Meghan Krein – Director of Communications and PR at Child Help
Aisha Morales - Morning News Anchor - WBAY-TV2, Green Bay Wisconsin; X: @Aisha Morales WBAY 
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June 12, 1994.  Nicole Brown Simpson calls Mezzaluna Trattoria, a restaurant in Brentwood,  California. Her mother had left her reading glasses on the table. Ron Goldman, who worked there, offered to to drop the pair off at Brown's home after work.

Just after midnight, police found Goldman's and Brown's bodies in the walkway leading up to her condominium. Both have been stabbed to death.  As OJ Simpson becomes a suspect, he leads police on a slow-speed chase in his white Bronco which is televised as the former Heisman Trophy winner leads a cadre of cars down the interstate.  Simpson is charged, but is acquitted in what was called the "trial of century."

 OJ Simpson, dead, after a cancer battle. 

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Keith Zlomsowitch - Nicole Brown’s Ex-boyfriend - Keithzk@aol.com  
Renee Rockwell - Criminal Defense Attorney, Facebook: "Renee.Rockwell" 
Bobby Chacon - Former Special Agent FBI, Screenwriter for “Criminal Minds;” Co-star Facebook TV "Curse of Akakor" Instagram/Twitter: @BobbyChaconFBI
Dr. Jorey L. Krawczyn - Psychologist, Fmr law enforcement, Faculty Saint Leo University; Consultant Blue Wall Institute, www.bw-institute.com, Author: Operation S.O.S., www.drjorey.com  
Shannon Henry  - President & Founder of SASS Go, (Surviving Assault Standing Strong) a nonprofit on a mission to eradicate abuse, trafficking and violence against women and girls globally, Case Consultant, Adjunct Professor at the University of South Carolina in the Department of Education, www.sassgo.org, @sassgoglobal FB, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok
Art Harris -  Fmr. CNN National Investigative Correspondent
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