And we're back! After a bit of a hiatus I'm chatting with Jean Chisholm (communication designer) and Lydia Okello (writer and fashion person), about what the f*ck is happening after the 2016 US election. As creatives what can we do, and firstly how we're processing to even get to a point of knowing what to do. (spoiler we don't know). Sometimes to get going we've got to endure a moment of pause, and discovery to understand and move forward. I'm trying to get back in the swing of this whole podcast thing, so thanks for sticking with us/coming back, I'm really excited for what this will bring.