The Pristine Ocean Podcast talks to people tackling the problem of plastic litter in the ocean and other waterways.
35. Thinking Big with Anssi from River Recycle
What happens when an entrepreneur with a backgroundin shipbuilding watches, a documentary about rivers transporting trash into theocean and then goes to bed?
Well, nothing, actually. Certainly notsleep. Opportunities, problems, solutions swirl around in the entrepreneur'sbrain until finally sleep comes. In the morning, the world is different. In thecase of NC Mikkeller from the company, he rivers recycled that entrepreneur,woke up with a mission to rid the world of plastic pollution.
The price tag, a mere $2.5 billion.That seems a lot, but compared to the planned investment in new plasticinfrastructure, a drop in the bucket. I talked to Ansii about when he started, where they are now and what plans he has for the future.
34. The Storyteller with Sarah Beard from Take3ForTheSea
Take 3 ForTheSea
This is the Pristine Ocean Podcast. I am your host, Peter Hall. In the podcast, I talk to people about the fight against marine plastic litter.
How do you talk about the environment without feeling totally powerless in the face of the enormous pressures on the ocean, on the climate on the environment generally?
Today we are talking to Sarah Beard. She is the chief storyteller at the environmental organization - take3 for the sea.
She is an environmental advocate, an educationalist and a filmmaker. She believes, actions, even small actions remind people that they possess the power to make real change.
She talks about the importance of hope and emotion in any story about the environment.
Here is the conversation I had with Sarah.
33. The Beach Collective with Rob from $Beach
The relationship between the economy and the environment is not an easy one.
Most modern economies are based around the profit principle.
But this doesn't work well for environmental projects.
You can put a price on environmental degradation.
But without the intensive international deal-making and haggling over environmental pricing, it is difficult to place a dollar value on a clean beach or an intact coral reef.
What is the value of a kilo of rubbish removed from a beach compared to a kilo removed from the river that empties near that beach?
What is the value of that kilo of waste plastic that put in a land fill compared to the kilo burnt in a cement kiln?
What is the difference whether that kilo is in India or is in Africa?
These values are difficult to agree on just for a particular location. And they can be completely different from one location to the next.
Maybe the problem is not the economic value but the currency itself.
Maybe we need a currency more suited to the demands of environmental projects which are typically international and highly local.
Sounds like a crypto-currency right?
This week we're talking to Rob from the crypto token Beach which is designed to fill the needs of groups of people such as digital nomads moving through different locations exchanging services. These services may be delivered over the internet or locally.
Currently the organization behind the Beach token has funding available for ocean preservation projects and I applaud that.
Script of conversation with Rob Cobbold.
32. The Take-Away with Patrick from Palm2Go
31. The River Warriors with Arno from River Cleanup
Last week I was talking to Arno Doggen from a Belgian company called River Cleanup. He introduced me to a really interesting term : Trash Blindness
This is the condition of being desensitized to the waste we are standing in. One quick method of opening your eyes to trash is to take the 10 minute trash challenge: This means collect trash around your home for just 10mins. You can guess what happens. What you have seen, you cannot be unsee.
River Cleanup is founded on the idea that people want to cleanup their environment and provides the organization and the tools so that groups can get together, have some fun while cleaning up and celebrating together afterwards. They are active 57 countries and are well on the way to be collecting a million tons annually by 2030.
Here is the interview with Arno.
30. Trash Booms with Karsten from Plastic Fischer
This is the Pristine Ocean podcast. I'm your host, Peter Hall. We talk to people about projects around the world, tackling the scourge of marine plastic litter.
Imagine you're looking over a river covered with plastic refuse.
Plastic bottles, sachets, flip flops.
You might think that is unsightly. You might also think about the loss of quality of life for the people living near the river.
You might ask yourself, where is all this going and why doesn't somebody do something about it?
This is where the story of plastic Fisher begins from a hotel looking out over the Mekong River. Karsten Hirsch decided to throw in his career as a lawyer and do something.
River clean-ups have become a central tool in the fight against ocean plastic. It is now thought that about 1000 rivers are responsible for 80% of the plastic flowing into the ocean. This is both a challenge but also an opportunity.
To catch the pollution before it did disperses into the wider environment.
Carsten told me that his personal connection to rivers comes from his passion for a range of water sports, including sailing and rowing. He and his partner founded Plastic Fischer to clean Up rivers.
Along the way, they developed a trash barrier that floats on the surface to concentrate the plastic waste.
Working directly on site, they developed the three L principle of local, low cost and low tech.
Karsten told me the story about how Plastic Fischer began.