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Mark Leiren-Young, author of Orcas Everywhere and director of The Hundred-Year-Old Whale, meets the humans who are fighting to save our oceans, orcas and environment. Find out how you can make waves.



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Mark Leiren-Young, author of Orcas Everywhere and director of The Hundred-Year-Old Whale, meets the humans who are fighting to save our oceans, orcas and environment. Find out how you can make waves.



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    Author Lynda V. Mapes on Saving Salmon and the Southern Resident Orcas

    Author Lynda V. Mapes on Saving Salmon and the Southern Resident Orcas

    Seattle Times (@seattletimes) environment reporter Lynda V Mapes (@LyndaVMapes) on dams versus salmon, saving the southern resident orcas and how Tahlequah changed the world. "All the things we do for our comfort, convenience and commerce are not good for the southern residents. And that’s just fact."

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    Show notes:



    00:30 - Lynda Mapes on falling in love with Ocean Sun

    1:50 - Skaana introduction to Lynda Mapes and Tahlequah

    9:31 - Removing dams and saving orcas

    10:47 - “What do we want the next 150 years to look like?”

    11:06 - Becoming the environmental reporter for Seattle newspapers and covering the Makah whale hunt.

    15:25 - “We have a motto at the Seattle Times - news you can’t get anywhere else.”

    17:11 - Seattle Times epic orca coverage - Hostile Waters - Orcas in Peril https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/hostile-waters-orcas-killer-whale-puget-sound-washington-canada/



    19:30 - Hearing about Tahlequah and her daughter: “And I thought, she won’t let it go. I’m not letting it go.”

    20:26 - “I don’t think she ever dropped it. I think it fell apart.”

    21:04 - “By the time we wrote that last story where she dropped the calf, there were six million people reading that story online.”

    21:13 - Scientists know that these very sophisticated intelligent animals grieve and that that’s what she was doing… these are families.”

    • 1 hr 13 min
    Ape Expert Frans de Waal Versus Anthropodenial

    Ape Expert Frans de Waal Versus Anthropodenial

    Author and primatologist Frans de Waal  talks about great apes, not-so-great humans, animal emotions and anthropodenial with Skaana (@Skaanapod) host Mark Leiren-Young (@leirenyoung).

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    For more on the life and work of Frans de Waal



    * His new book - Different - what can apes teach us about sex and gender? https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/apr/17/frans-de-waal-in-other-primates-i-dont-find-the-kind-of-intolerance-we-have 

    * His Ted Talk - Do Animals Have Morals http://www.ted.com/talks/frans_de_waal_do_animals_have_morals

    * And here he is on Facebook





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    Show Notes



    1:30 – Intro



    3:35 – Defining anthropodenial.



    6:05 – Anthropomorphism and primates.



    7:02 – “That's the interesting part is we are so human-centric that we can deal with facial expressions, but not with the expressions of an elephant who do a lot of things was their trunk and ears, but their face is not very mobile.”



    8:31 - Are humans a “successful” species?



    11:05 - On human exceptionalism. "People always want to be special."



    12:40 – “If related species show similar behavior under similar circumstances, you have to use the same terminology because the psychology behind it is probably similar too.”



    13:28 – How science’s relationship with anthropomorphism is changing.



    14:40 - Laughing chimps.



    16:15 -Why primatologists use names for apes not numbers.



    17:58 - Animals and grief. "All animals that have attachments can also grieve."



    20:30 -"I'm not against humanizing animals or animalizing humans."



    22:49 – Survival of the kindest versus survival of the fittest.



    26:00 – Talking about his book Mama’s Last Hug.

    • 59 min
    Sea Shepherd Captain, Paul Watson, on saving salmon, aggressive nonviolence and his journey from outlaw to law enforcement. Part two of our special two-part interview.

    Sea Shepherd Captain, Paul Watson, on saving salmon, aggressive nonviolence and his journey from outlaw to law enforcement. Part two of our special two-part interview.

    Sea Shepherd Captain, Paul Watson (@CaptPaulWatson), talks with Mark Leiren-Young (@leirenyoung) about getting political, remembering Rob Stewart, saving salmon with Alexandra Morton and the Sea Shepherd Navy! Part two of our special two-part interview.



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    Excerpts from Orcapedia by Paul Watson and Tiffany Humphrey



    * Kiska: https://medium.com/skaana/kiskas-story-from-orcapedia-by-paul-watson-tiffany-humphrey-27ec43dd0a19 

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    * Lolita: https://leirenyoung.medium.com/lolitas-story-from-orcapedia-by-paul-watson-tiffany-humphrey-78a2af9423d7 



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    • 31 min
    Sea Shepherd Captain, Paul Watson, on Seaspiracies and the Smartest Species on Earth

    Sea Shepherd Captain, Paul Watson, on Seaspiracies and the Smartest Species on Earth

    Sea Shepherd Captain, Paul Watson (@CaptPaulWatson), talks with Mark Leiren-Young (@leirenyoung) about Seaspiracy, life as an outlaw and as a movie star, the impact of Covid on life in the oceans and whether whales are more intelligent than we are.

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    Berke Breathed's original drawing of Opus, the Penguin - used to illustrate Mark Leiren-Young’s poem Operation Dessert Storm in the Sea Shepherd newsletter.

    Excerpts from Orcapedia



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    * Lolita: https://leirenyoung.medium.com/lolitas-story-from-orcapedia-by-paul-watson-tiffany-humphrey-78a2af9423d7



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    * Alexandra Morton: https://www.skaana.org/alexandra-morton/

    * Julia Barnes: https://www.skaana.org/bright-green-lies/



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    • 33 min
    Meet the Orcas Who Hunt on Land! Guests: Josh McInnes & Justine Buckmaster

    Meet the Orcas Who Hunt on Land! Guests: Josh McInnes & Justine Buckmaster

    Killer whales hunting on land? Josh McInnis (scientist) and Justine Buckmaster (naturalist) on their wild discovery that some Salish Sea orcas are hunting seals on the shores of Protection Island and how orcas continue to surprise us.

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    Photo credits: Justine Buckmaster



     



    Josh McInnes is a marine ecologist and masters candidate at the University of British Columbia's Institute for the Oceans and Fisheries Marine Mammal Research Unit. Josh grew up on Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada.  For over a decade Josh has studied the ecology and behaviour of transient (Bigg's) killer whales along the Pacific Coast, but has also traveled to remote locations off British Columbia, Washington State, Alaska, California, Australia, and Antarctica to study marine mammal populations.



    Justine Buckmaster is a certified Marine Naturalist currently working at Puget Sound Express. She has been working in the Salish Sea region for over ten years as a guide and educator on whale watching ecotours. Justine works with local marine mammal researchers by providing digital photos and sightings data from her encounters to record proof of presence and unique behaviors of the marine mammal species and populations of the Salish Sea. Justine was raised in southern Washington State near the Columbia River and currently resides in the town of Mukilteo in northern Puget Sound.

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    • 30 min
    Alexandra Morton on fighting for sea-life, fighting against sea lice and the beauty of dancing, spawning salmon

    Alexandra Morton on fighting for sea-life, fighting against sea lice and the beauty of dancing, spawning salmon

    Eco-warrior, Alexandra Morton, on her fight to save wild salmon, being gaslit by the Canadian government and her adventures in Green politics. She also dares people to sue her over her essential new book - Not On My Watch:  How a renegade whale biologist took on governments and industry to save wild salmon.

    “The salmon farming industry is harming wild salmon, is harming whales, is causing algae blooms and really needs to be controlled.”



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    Significant Quotes:

    “The salmon farming industry is harming wild salmon, is harming whales, is causing algae blooms and really needs to be controlled. I mean, at first I thought they just had to get off the wild salmon migration routes, but now I realize they just have to get out of the ocean completely, and if they want to continue, build a tank and get in it and operate from there.”(8:18)





    "Doing all this damage was part of how they were making such a phenomenal amount of money. It’s really insidious." (12:38)





    "I cannot believe I have spent my whole adult life fighting salmon farms. It just seems ridiculous. But when I look at it from a global perspective I realize I’m part of a huge army across the planet that is trying to protect life on earth." (12:55)





    “When you have a corporation involved, they don't really care how many fish there are. They just want that share price to go up. And so this is deadly, because it really is a cancer model. They need to grow, they need to grow, they need to grow, with no mind to the fact that they're killing the very body that they're in, which in this case is the ocean. I mean, they're going to kill themselves off. They are killing themselves off in the process of following their business plan. It's really deranged. It doesn't make sense and it has to stop.”  (15:31)





    "Nobody wants to buy fish that have killed off whales, never mind everything else." (19:00)



     



    "There's nobody whose position in DFO is the health of wild salmon. There's no director of wild salmon." (24:48)





    "We have the biggest salmon run in the world on the verge of extinction." (29:29)





    "I saw grizzly bears that no longer looked like Grizzly bears… they were emaciated." (33:14)





    "Alexandra: I have to wonder at some level in government are people saying,

    • 52 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
61 Ratings

61 Ratings

HGather ,

A wonderful podcast

Great podcast! Highly recommend!!

Alvaeia ,

Informative, entertaining listening!

Awesome to toss on well taking care of housework, easy to listen to and educational as well!

Tanger26 ,

Introduction to Southern Residents

This podcast has unique content that will intruige activist veterans and newcomers alike. While obviously polemical (c'mon save the whales guys) Mark and his guests are academic and rigorous in their arguments for conservation. Give it a listen!

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