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内容简介
新开一个小系列，来讲讲黑人蓝调音乐怎么就这么变成了得由黑人来演来唱的音乐。当然，这句话后面的意思是，在黑人蓝调成为要由黑人来演唱的音乐之前，白人也可以演可以唱的，甚至，在很长一段时间，唱片里的蓝调音乐是只能有白人来演来唱的。出现这种情况，当然是因为歧视，白人的特权。

小系列第一期，我们先聊聊白人的音乐特权，男性的特权，女性的特权，作为受害者的反抗特权。


早期爵士和蓝调的共生关系
美国流行文化中的一个重要母题：白人男性的危机
对于女艺人的双标
1900 年代新女性艺人的叛逆之道

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主要参考文献

Sanjek, R. (1988). American popular music and its business: the first four hundred years. Volume II: From 1790 to 1909. New York: Oxford University Press.

Ashby, L. (2006). With amusement for all: a history of American popular culture since 1830. Lexington: University Press of Kentucky.

Apolloni, A. M. (2021). Freedom girls: voicing femininity in 1960s British pop. Oxford University Press.

Miller, K. H. (2010). Segregating sound: inventing folk and pop music in the age of Jim Crow. Durham: Duke University Press.

Suisman, D. (2009). Selling sounds: the commercial revolution in American music. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

Lott, E. (1993). Love and theft: blackface minstrelsy and the American working class. New York: Oxford University Press.

Bowden, B. & Dylan, B. (1982). Performed literature: words and music by Bob Dylan. Bloomington: Indiana University Press.

Kennedy, D. M. (2004). Over here: the First World War and American society (25th anniversary ed). Oxford,: Oxford University Press.

相关录音：

The Garbage Man，Paul Barbarin/Herb Morand 词曲，Harlem Hamfats 演奏，1936，Decca

Livery Stable Blues，Ray Lopez/Alcide Nunez 作曲，Original Dixieland Jazz Band 演奏，1917，Victor

St. Louis Blues，W.C. Handy 词曲，Bessie Smith/Louis Armstrong/Fred Longshaw 演奏，1925，Columbia

Memphis Blues，W.C. Handy 曲，James Reese Europe's 369th U.S. Infantry "Hell Fighters" Band 演奏，1919，Pathe

Memphis Blues，W.C. Handy 曲，Victor Military Band 演奏，1914，Victor

St. Louis Blues，W.C. Handy 词曲，Louis Armstrong/Billy Kyle/Arvell Shaw/Barney Bigard/Trummy Young/Barrett Deems/Velma Middleton 演奏，1954，Columbia

Downhearted Blues，Alberta Hunter 词/Lovie Austin 曲，Bessie Smith/Clarence Williams 演奏，1923，Columbia

Crazy Blues，Perry Bradford 词曲，Mamie Smith and Her Jazz Hounds 演奏，1920，OKeh

Home Sweet Home，John Howard Payne 词/Henry Bishop 曲，Deanna Durbin/Charles Previn and His Orchestra 演奏，1939，Decca

The Man Who Wrote Home Sweet Home Never Was a Married Man，Fleta Jan Brown 词曲，Jerry Garcia/Sara Ruppenthal 演奏，1963，Round

Oh! Susanna，Stephen Foster 词曲，Al Jolson 演唱，

All Coons Look Alike to Me，Ernest Hogan/Max Hoffman 词曲，Arthur Collins/Vess L. Ossman 演奏，1902，Edison

All Coons Look Alike to Me，Ernest Hogan/Max Hoffman 曲（midi 复现），1896

Maple Leaf Rag，Scott Joplin 作曲/演奏（midi 复现），1916，Connorized

Alexander's Ragtime Band，Irvin Berlin 词曲，The Boswell Sisters/The Dorsey Brothers Orchestra 演奏，Columbia，1934

Like a Rolling Stone，Bob Dylan 词曲，Bob Dylan/Michael Bloomfield/Al Kooper/Frank Owens/Joseph Macho Jr./Bobby Gregg/Bruce Langhorne 演奏，Columbia，1965

As Tears Go By，Mick Jagger/Keith Richard/Andred Loog Oldham 词曲，Marianne Faithfull 演唱，London，1964

Je t'aime...Moi non plus，Serge Gainsbourg 词曲，Serge Gainsbourg/Jane Birkin 演唱，Fontana，1969

Broken English，Marianne Faithfull/Barry Reynolds/Joe Mavety/Stephen David York/Terence Philip Stannard 词曲，Marianne

内容简介
战后芝加哥蓝调的代表人物 Muddy Waters 寻找属于自己的大声音的故事。


电吉他成为 R&B 的代表性乐器
制作人如何影响我们听到的声音

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参考阅读

Kelley, N. (2005). R&B, rhythm and business: the political economy of Black music. New York: Akashic Books.

Gordon, R. (2002). Can't be satisfied: the life and times of Muddy Waters (1st ed). Boston: Little, Brown.

The Legendary Parkway Label

Waksman, S. (1999). Instruments of desire: the electric guitar and the shaping of musical experience. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

相关录音：

Juke，Little Walter 作曲，Little Walter & His Night Cats 演奏，1952，Chess

Peggy Sue, Jerry Allison/Norman Petty/Buddy Holly 词曲，Buddy Holly and the Crickets 演奏，1958，Val Parnell’s Sunday Night at the London Palladium 现场录音

Dust My Broom, Robert Johnson/Elmore James 词曲, Elmore James/Sonny Boy Williamson II/Leonard Ware/Frock O'Dell 演奏, 1951, Trumpet

Mean Red Spider，Robert Lockwood Jr. 词曲，Muddy Waters/James "Sweet Lucy" Carter and his Orchestra 演奏，1946，Ballen Record

Hard Day Blues，Muddy Waters 词曲，Muddy Waters/James Clark/Ransom Knowling/Judge Riley 演奏，1946，当时未出版，Sony

I Be's Troubled，Muddy Waters 词曲/演奏，1941，Library of Congress

Little Anna Mae，Muddy Waters 词曲，Muddy Waters/Sunnyland Slim/Ernest "Big" Crawford 演奏，1948，Aristocrat

Katie Mae Blues，Lightnin' Hopkins 词曲，Lightnin' Hopkins/Wilson “Thunder” Smith 演奏，1947，Alladin

Ludella，Jimmy Rogers 词曲，Jimmy Rogers/Muddy Waters/Little Walter/Sunnyland Slim/Ernest "Big" Crawford/Leroy Foster 演奏，1950，Regal

Kidman Blues，Memphis Minnie 词曲，Memphis Minnie/Little Son Joe/Sunnyland Slim/Ernest "Big" Crawford/Leroy Foster 演奏，1950，Regal

I Can't Be Satisfied，Muddy Waters 词曲，Muddy Waters/Ernest "Big" Crawford 演奏，1948，Aristocrat

I Feel Like Going Home，Muddy Waters 词曲，Muddy Waters/Ernest "Big" Crawford 演奏，1948，Aristocrat

Rollin' Stone，Muddy Waters 词曲，Muddy Waters/Ernest "Big" Crawford 演奏，1950，Chess

My Foolish Heart，Ned Washington 词/Victor Young 曲，Gene Ammons And His Sextet 演奏，1950，Chess

Rollin' and Tumblin，Hambone Willie Newbern/Muddy Waters 词曲，Leroy Foster/Little Walter/Muddy Waters 演奏，1950，Parkway

Rollin' and Tumblin，Muddy Waters/Ernest "Big" Crawford 演奏，1950，Aristocrat

Still A Fool，Muddy Waters 词曲，Muddy Waters/Little Walter/Leonard Chess 演奏，1951，Chess

She Moves Me，Muddy Waters 词曲，Muddy Waters/Little Walter/Leonard Chess 演奏，1951，Chess

Rocket 88，Jackie Brenston/Ike Turner 词曲，Ike Turner and his Kings of Rhythm 演奏，1951，Chess

How Many More Years，Howlin' Wolf 词曲，Howlin' Wolf/Ike Turner/Willie Johnson/Willie Steele 演奏，1951，Chess

Mad Love (I Want You To Love Me)，Muddy Waters 词曲，Muddy Waters/Jimmy Rogers/Little Walter/Otis Spann/Willie Dixon/Fred Below 演奏，1953，Chess

(I'm Your) Hoochie Coochie Man，Willie Dixon 词曲，Muddy Waters/Jimmy Rogers/Little Walter/Otis Spann/Willie Dixon/Fred Below 演奏，1954，Chess

(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction，Mick Jagger/Keith Richards 词曲，The Rolling Stones 演奏，1965，London/Decca

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talich: 美国流行文化史爱好者，《娱乐的逻辑》作者

内容简介
战后芝加哥城市蓝调的核心组合是吉他和口琴，这其实是传统的弦乐队组合。这一期我们以一对重要的吉他和口琴蓝调组合，Sonny Boy Williamson 和 Robert Lockwood Jr 为中心，聊聊弦乐队。


南方电台最早的黑人音乐节目 King Biscuit Time 和关于黑人的一些刻板印像
弦乐队，和关于弦乐队的刻板印像
口琴，简单易用而且便宜的入门乐器
弦乐队的节奏部，和鼓

另外，节目中有两首曲子当时没有找到完整的演奏者信息，现在已经查到，并在相关录音信息中补全。其中，Sonny Boy Williamson 1965 年在 King Biscuit Time 里的演出，合作者是吉他手 Houston Stackhouse 和鼓手 James Curtis。Curtis 就是在一开始加盟 King Biscuit 的那位鼓手。

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相关链接
参考阅读：

Palmer, R. (1981). Deep blues. Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England: Penguin Books.

Field, K. (1993). Harmonicas, harps, and heavy breathers. New York: Simon & Schuster.

Russell, T. (2007). Country music originals: the legends & the lost. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

Ward, B. & Huber, P. (2018). A&R pioneers: architects of American roots music on record. Vanderbilt University Press and the Country Music Foundation Press.

Birnbaum, L. (2013). Before Elvis: the prehistory of rock 'n' roll. Lanham, Md.: Scarecrow Press.

Fish, Scott K. (1982), History of Rock Drumming, Part I-II. Modern Drummer, Issue 33, Issue 34, 1982

相关录音：

I don't know，Sonny Boy Williams II 词曲, Sonny Boy Williams II/Robert Lockwood Jr/Luther Tucker/Willie Dixon/Fred Below 演奏, 1957,Checker

Love Me Do, Lennon–McCartney 词曲, the Beatles 演奏, 1962, Parlophone

Black and Tan Fantasy , Duke Ellington/Bubber Miley 作曲，Duke Ellington and his Washingtonians 演奏，1927， Victor

The Little Old Log Cabin In The Lane，Will S. Hays 作曲，Fiddlin' John Carson 演奏，1923，Okeh

Don't Let Your Deal Go Down Blues, Norman Woodlieff 词曲，Charlie Poole with The North Carolina Ramblers 演奏，1925，Columbia

Sitting On Top Of The World，Walter Vinson/Lonnie Chatmon 词曲, Mississippi Sheiks 演奏, 1930, Okeh

A Fiddler's Convention in Georgia, Pt. 1，Clayton McMichen/Gid Tanner/Riley Puckett/Bob Nichols/Fate Norris/Bert Layne 演奏，1927，

Peg O' My Heart, Alfred Bryan 词/Fred Fisher 曲，Harmonicats 演奏，1947，Vitacoustic Records

Train Kept A-Rollin', Tiny Bradshaw/Lois Mann/Howard Kay 词曲, the YardBirds 演奏, 1966, Reelin’ In The Years Productions

Bye Bye Bird, Willie Dixon/Sonny Boy Williamson II 词曲, Sonny Boy Williamson II/the Yardbirds, 1966, Fontana

Pot Licker Blues, El Watson 作曲, El Watson/Charles Johnson 演奏, 1927, Victor

John Henry, 传统民谣，De Ford Bailey 演奏，1932， Victor

The Wreck of the Old 97, G. B. Grayson/Henry Whitter 词曲，Vernon Dalhart/Carson Robison 演奏, 1924, Victor

It's King Biscuit Time, Sonny Boy Williamson II/Houston Stackhouse/James Curtis 演奏, John William “Sonny” Payne 主持, 1965, Arhoolie

Take A Little Walk with Me，Robert Lockwood Jr 词曲, Robert Lockwood Jr/Alfred Elkins 演奏, 1941, Bluebird

Hot Dogs, George Perkins 词曲, Blind Lemon Jefferson 演奏, 1927, Paramount

That's All Right, Arthur Crudup 词曲，Elvis Presley/Scotty Moore/Bill Black 演奏, 1954, Sun

Heartbreak Hotel, Mae Boren Axton/Tommy Durden/Elvis Presley 词曲, Elvis Presley/Scotty Moore/Bill Black/Chet Atkins/Floyd Cramer 演奏, 1956, Victor

Eyesight to the Blind, Sonny Boy Williamson II 词曲, Sonny Boy Williamson II/Elmore James/Joe Willie Wilkins/Willie Love/Joe Dyson 演奏, 1951, Trumpet

Eyesight to the Blind(The Hawker), Sonny Boy Williamson II 词曲, The Who 演奏, 1969, Polydor

Dust My Broom, Robert Johnson 词曲，Robert Lockwood Jr/Sunnyland Slim/Ernest 'Big' Crawford/Alfred Wallace 演奏, 1951, Mer

内容简介
1930 年代芝加哥城市蓝调的兴起。


介绍一下二战前 A&R 的基本工作
A&R 制造/推进的一些音乐：answer song 和 event song
几个 A&R，J Mayo Williams，Aletha Dickerson，和 Lester Melrose，看他们如何打造城市蓝调
几组承起启后的重要艺人，Hokum Boys，Memphis Minnie，Harlem Hamfats

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相关链接
参考阅读

Kelley, N. (2005). R&B, rhythm and business: the political economy of Black music. New York: Akashic Books.

Ward, B. & Huber, P. (2018). A&R pioneers: architects of American roots music on record. Vanderbilt University Press and the Country Music Foundation Press.

Garon, P. & Garon, B. (1992). Woman with guitar: Memphis Minnie's blues. New York: Da Capo Press.

Birnbaum, L. (2013). Before Elvis: the prehistory of rock 'n' roll. Lanham, Md.: Scarecrow Press.

Santelli, R. & Guthrie, N. (2012). This land is your land: Woody Guthrie and the journey of an American folk song. Philadelphia: Running Press.

相关录音：

Shake that thing, Papa Charlie Jackson 词曲/演奏, 1925, Paramount

God Bless America，Irvin Berlin 词曲，Kate Smith 演唱，Jack Miller 指挥乐队和合唱队，1939, Victor

This Land is Your Land， Woody Guthrie 词曲/演奏, 1944, Asch Recordings

[Little Darling, Pal of Mine(https://youtu.be/F_dRyqNPlUw), A.P. Carter 词曲，Carter Family 演奏，1928，Victor

When the World's On Fire，A.P. Carter/Virginia Suber 词曲，Carter Family 演奏，1930，Victor

The Death of Floyd Collins，Andrew Jenkins 牧师词曲，Vernon Dalhart/Lou Raderman/Carson Robison 演奏，1926，Victor

When the Levee Breaks，John Bonham/John Paul Jones/Memphis Minnie/Jimmy Page/Robert Plant 词曲，Led Zeppelin 演奏，1971，Atlantic

When the Levee Breaks，Kansas Joe McCoy/Memphis Minnie 词曲/演奏，1929，Columbia

Back-Water Blues，Bessie Smith 词曲，Bessie Smith/James P Johnson 演奏，1927，Columbia

Your Mother's Son-In-Law，Alberta Nichols/Mann Holiner 词曲，Billie Holiday/Benny Goodman 乐队演奏，1933，Columbia

Summertime，DuBose Heyward/Ira Gershwin 词，George Gershwin 曲，Bellie Holiday 演唱，1936，Vocalion

Selling That Stuff，Thomas Dorsey 词曲，The Hokum Boys 演奏，1928，Paramount

Bumble Bee，Memphis Minnie 词曲，Memphis Minnie/Kansas Joe 演奏，1930，Vocalion

Me and My Chauffeur Blues，Memphis Minnie 词曲，Memphis Minnie/Son Joe 演奏，1941，OKeh

Oh! Red，Joe McCoy 词曲，Harlem Hamfats 演奏，1936，Decca

The Weed Smoker's Dream，Joe McCoy 词曲，Harlem Hamfats 演奏，1936，Decca

Why Don't You Do Right?，Joe McCoy 词曲，Lil Green/Big Bill Broonzy/Simeon Henry/Ransom Knowling 演奏，1941，Bluebird

Why Don't You Do Right?，Joe McCoy 词曲，Peggy Lee/Benny Goodman 乐队演奏，1942，Columbia

I'm Gonna Move To The Outskirts Of Town，Casey Bill Weldon/Roy Jacobs 词曲，Louis Jordan and His Tympany Five 演奏，1941，Decca

We Gonna Move (To the Outskirts of Town) ，Casey Bill Weldon 词曲/演奏，1936，Vocalion

Ration Blues，Louis Jordan/Antonio Cosey/Collenane Clark 词曲，Louis and the Tympany Five 演奏，1943，Decca

Rock Around the Clock，Max C. Freedman/James E. Myers 词曲，Bill Haley & His Comets 演奏，1954，Decca

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talich: 美国流行文化史爱好者，《娱乐的逻辑》作者

简介
讨论一下 1928 年出版的黑人流行音乐历史性唱片《How Long, How Long Blues》。


乡村蓝调为什么要城市化
早年唱片业音乐圈对乡村音乐和民间艺人的偏见
钢琴和吉他的组合为什么会在 1928 年诞生
机械录音时代的音质

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参考阅读

Wald, E. (2010). The blues: a very short introduction. New York: Oxford University Press.

Suisman, D. (2009). Selling sounds: the commercial revolution in American music. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

Stenstadvold, E. (2013). 'We hate the guitar': Prejudice and polemic in the music press in early 19th-century Europe. Early Music, 41(4), 595-604.

相关录音：

It's Tight Like That, Tampa Red/Georgia Tom 作曲，Tampa Red/Georgia Tom 演奏, 1928, Vocalion

How Long, How Long Blues，Leroy Carr 作曲，Leroy Carr/Scrapper Blackwell 演奏，1928, Vocalion

Interview #1 (Plantation Recording)， Muddy Waters/Alan Lomax, 1941, Library of Congress

Bottle It Up and Go, Tommy McClennan 演奏，1939，Bluebird

Hot Fingers，Eddie Lang/Lonnie Johnson 作曲，Eddie Lang/Lonnie Johnson 演奏，1929，Okeh

Maple Leaf Rag，Scott Joplin 作曲和演奏，1899 年自动钢琴录音，Midi 复现

How Long Daddy, How Long，Ida Cox 作曲，Ida Cox/Papa Charlie Jackson 演奏，1926，Paramount

Fore Day Creep，Jesse Crump 作曲，Ida Cox/Jesse Crump 演奏，1927，Paramount

Fore Day Creep，Jesse Crump 作曲，Ida Cox And Her All-Star Band 演奏，1939，Vocalion

The Whistling Coon，Sam Devere 作曲，George Washington Johnson 演奏，1891，Columbia

The Little Old Log Cabin In The Lane，Will S. Hays 作曲，Fiddlin' John Carson 演奏，1923，Okeh

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talich: 美国流行文化史爱好者，《娱乐的逻辑》作者

讨论一下为什么二战前盛极一时的大乐队会消失，如何瘦身成为 R&B 小乐团。


禁酒令和流行音乐
大萧条时期的大乐队
二战对大乐队的影响
小乐队的音乐风格
Boogie-Woogie 走红
电吉他的声音

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参考阅读

Ake, D. A. (2002). Jazz cultures. Berkeley: University of California Press.

Townsend, P. (2007). Pearl Harbor jazz: change in popular music in the early 1940s (1st ed). Jackson: University Press of Mississippi.

Waksman, S. (1999). Instruments of desire: the electric guitar and the shaping of musical experience. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

Sanjek, R. (1988). American popular music and its business: the first four hundred years, Vol. III, From 1900 to 1984. New York: Oxford University Press.

相关录音：

Walk, Don't Run, Johnny Smith 作曲，The Ventures 演奏, 1960, Dolton

Sing, Sing, Sing，Louis Prima 作曲，Benny Goodman 和他的乐队演奏，1936, RCA Victor

That'll be the Day， Jerry Allison, Buddy Holly,Norman Petty 创作，Buddy Holly & the Crickets 演奏，1957，Bruswick

Boogie Woogie Stomp, Albert Ammons 作曲/演奏，1939，Blue Note

Caldonia Boogie，Fleecie Moore 作曲，Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five 演奏，1945，Decca

Milkcow Blues Boogie，Kokomo Arnold 作曲，Elvis Presley/Scotty Moore/Bill Black 演奏, 1955，Sun

That Ain't Right，Nat King Cole/Irving Mills 作曲，King Cole Trio 演奏，1942，Decca

West End Blues，Joe "King" Oliver 作曲，Louis Armstrong and His Hot Five 演奏，1928，Okeh

Mean Old World，T-Bone Walker/Marl Young 作曲，T-Bone Walker/Freddie Slack/Jud DeNaut/Dave Coleman 演奏，1945，Capitol

Solo Flight，Charlie Christian/Benny Goodman/Jimmy Mundy 作曲，Charlie Christian/Benny Goodman and His Orchestra 演奏，1944，Columbia

T-Bone Boogie，Big Joe Turner/Pete Johnson/T-Bone Walker/Marl Young 作曲，T-Bone Walker with Marl Young's Orchestra 演奏，1945，Rhumboogie

Ain't That Just Like a Woman(They'll Do It Every Time)，Claude Demetrius/Fleecie Moore 作曲，Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five 演奏，1946，Decca

Roll Over Beethoven，Chuck Berry 作曲，Chuck Berry and his Combo 演奏，1956，Chess

Johnny B Goode，Chuck Berry 作曲，Chuck Berry/Lafayette Leake/Willie Dixon/Fred Below 演奏，1958，Chess

Promised Land，Chuck Berry 作曲/演奏，1964，Chess

人物简介

talich: 美国流行文化史爱好者，《娱乐的逻辑》作者