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Vaping, dieting, seeing a chiropractor, taking omega-3 supplements… so many decisions to make, so much misinformation. Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry look at the body of evidence on these topics to tell you what’s solid, what’s iffy… and what’s crapola. The jingles, comedy, and bickering help the medicine go down.

The Body of Evidence Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.8 • 57 Ratings

Vaping, dieting, seeing a chiropractor, taking omega-3 supplements… so many decisions to make, so much misinformation. Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry look at the body of evidence on these topics to tell you what’s solid, what’s iffy… and what’s crapola. The jingles, comedy, and bickering help the medicine go down.

    081 - MSG / Artificial Sweeteners / Boosters Forever

    081 - MSG / Artificial Sweeteners / Boosters Forever

    What does the body of evidence say on the topic of MSG? Plus: we dig into a new study that alleges that artificial sweeteners are associated with a higher risk of cancer (but But BUT!), and will we keep boosting people against COVID every four months?
     
    Block 1:
    (2:05) MSG: what it is, where it comes from, and where it is used
     
    Block 2:
    (8:41) MSG: what it tastes like, the story of how it was maligned, and whether or not it causes harm
     
    Block 3:
    (27:26) New study on artificial sweeteners and cancer, and its pitfalls
     
    Block 4:
    (39:11) Forever boosters for COVID-19
     
     
    * Jingle by Jillian Correia of Roctavio Canada
    * Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl.
    * Assistant researcher: Nicholas Koziris
     
    To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.
     
    To make a one-time donation to our show, you can now use PayPal! https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE
     
    Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called “Digressions”! Check it out!
     
     
    References:
     
    1) The original paper on “Chinese-restaurant syndrome:” https://doi.org/10.1056/nejm196804042781419
     
    2) The Colgate University article on Dr. Howard Steel: https://news.colgate.edu/magazine/2019/02/06/the-strange-case-of-dr-ho-man-kwok/
     
    3) This American Life’s episode on Dr. Steel and Dr. Kwok: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/668/the-long-fuse
     
    4) The only other scientific paper penned by Dr. Kwok: https://doi.org/10.1016/s0022-3476(67)80272-5
     
    5) Study on intravenous administration of MSG: https://doi.org/10.1126/science.163.3869.826
     
    6) Study #1 on MSG and flushing: https://doi.org/10.1016/s0190-9622(86)70161-8
     
    7) Study #2 on MSG and flushing: https://doi.org/10.1093/jn/130.4.1058s
     
    8) Study on MSG and headaches: https://doi.org/10.1186/s10194-016-0639-4
     
    9) The FDA’s findings on MSG: https://www.fda.gov/food/food-additives-petitions/questions-and-answers-monosodium-glutamate-msg
     
    10) Adam Ragusea’s video on MSG: https://youtu.be/E-POAKKH5IM
     
    11) New study on artificial sweeteners and cancer risk: https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pmed.1003950
     
    12) Second COVID booster has ‘marginal benefits’ in small study: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/972198
     
    13) Jonathan’s article on a pan-coronavirus vaccine: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19/future-proof-coronavirus-vaccine
     
     
    Music Credits:
     
    Shine Of Happiness by MusicLFiles
    Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/7537-shine-of-happiness
    License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
     

    • 56 min
    Interview - Paul Ingraham on Quitting Massage Therapy

    Interview - Paul Ingraham on Quitting Massage Therapy

    Chris and Jonathan welcome back to the show Paul Ingraham, the founder of PainScience.com. He charts his early days as a woo believer, his transformation into a skeptic, and the thing that got him in trouble with his massage therapy regulatory body: tone. Do healthcare regulators care for snark? Is it their role to tone-police their members? The Internet took many regulators by surprise and some overreacted. How do you kick the foxes out of the henhouse of massage therapy if the rule is that foxes should be treated as hens?
     
    No time stamps for this one. It’s a story that goes from “crack” addiction to growing out of the adolescent phase of skepticism to the difference between evidence-based medicine and science-based medicine. And for the first time ever, our podcast has been turned all the way up to 11.
     
     
    * Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl.
     
    To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.
     
    Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called “Digressions”! Check it out!
     
     
    Links:
    1) Paul Ingraham’s website: https://www.painscience.com/
    2) Paul Ingraham’s Science-Based Medicine post on why he quit being a massage therapist: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/why-i-quit-my-massage-therapy-career/

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Special - What's in a Name? Medical Edition

    Special - What's in a Name? Medical Edition

    Fingers on buzzers! It’s the first (and possibly last) episode of What’s in a Name: Medical Edition! Join host Jonathan and his three contestants in figuring out the origin of common words used in biology and medicine! It’s fun, we swear!
     
    In the hot seat: social media manager Melissa, medical resident Niko, and cardiologist Chris!
     
    Who will win? Who will lose? Will their egos recover? Do points even matter? What are the rules again? You’ll hear about biceps, botulism, and that disease that got its name from a really old poem!
     
    It’s What’s in a Name: Medical Edition!
     
    Recorded in late December, 2021.
     
    To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.
     
    To make a one-time donation to our show, you can now use PayPal! https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE
     
    Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called “Digressions”! Check it out!
     
    Music Credits:
    Dark Secrets (DECISION) by Sascha Ende®
    Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/246-dark-secrets-decision-
    License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
     

    • 1 hr 31 min
    Interview - Barbara Hofer and Gale Sinatra on Science Denial

    Interview - Barbara Hofer and Gale Sinatra on Science Denial

    Jonathan and Chris talk to Dr. Barbara Hofer and Dr. Gale Sinatra, the authors of the book Science Denial: Why It Happens and What to Do About It. It’s a course in skepticism 101 as they discuss decision-making, doing your own research, and the post-truth era.
     
    1:46 Why write a book about science denial now?
    4:50 Irrational decision-making
    6:17 Politicizing science and manufacturing doubt
    16:30 Just asking questions and doing your own research
    22:51 How to refute misconceptions and a note on the backfire effect
    30:43 Patience and empathy in the time of the pandemic
    32:38 Algorithmic literacy
    33:55 Are the deniers aware of the true reasons for their science denial?
    36:00 The post-truth era
    39:32 Solutions for harm reduction
     
     
    * Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl.
     
    To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.
     
    Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called “Digressions”! Check it out!
     
     
    Links:
    1) The book Science Denial: https://www.sciencedenialbook.com/
    2) The Debunking Handbook: https://www.climatechangecommunication.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/DebunkingHandbook2020.pdf
     

    • 49 min
    080 - Asthma / Screen Time / Exercise Motivation

    080 - Asthma / Screen Time / Exercise Motivation

    What does the body of evidence say on the topic of asthma? Plus: how much time children spend in front of screens, and how to nudge people to go to the gym.
     
    Block 1:
    (3:15) Asthma: wheezing, similar diseases, how asthma is diagnosed
     
    Block 2:
    (10:53) Asthma: exercise-induced “asthma,” what is asthma, cold and thunderstorms as triggers, allergies, infections, treatments
     
    Block 3:
    (29:31) Screen time in children
     
    Block 4:
    (40:06) Nudging people to go to the gym
     
     
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    * Jingle by Joseph Hackl
    * Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl.
    * Assistant researcher: Nicholas Koziris
     
    To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.
     
    To make a one-time donation to our show, you can now use PayPal! https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE
     
    Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called “Digressions”! Check it out!
     
     
    References:
     
    1) Episode 43 on allergies: https://bodyofevidence.ca/043-allergies-and-organic-food
     
    2) The 2019 Global Initiative for Asthma report: https://ginasthma.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Whats-new-in-GINA-2021_final_V2.pdf
     
    3) How will new recommendations from the GINA report affect practice in Canada: https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/17/E456?ijkey=00df329033338403c174cbb90af80401afad6136&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
     
    4) GINA FAQ on asthma: https://ginasthma.org/about-us/faqs/
     
    5) Trial on combined budenoside-formoterol as needed in mild asthma: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1715274
     
    6) Systematic review and meta-analysis on screen time in children 5 years and younger: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2789091
     
    7) American Academy of Paediatrics’ guidelines on screen time: https://www.healthychildren.org/English/family-life/Media/Pages/Where-We-Stand-TV-Viewing-Time.aspx
     
    8) Canadian Paediatrics Society’s guidelines on screen time: https://caringforkids.cps.ca/handouts/behavior-and-development/screen-time-and-young-children
     
    9) Megastudy on nudging people to go to the gym: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04128-4
     
     
    Music Credits:
     
    Lofi Chill Hip-Hop by WinnieTheMoog
    Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/6347-lofi-chill-hip-hop
    License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
     
    Tutorial 2 by Frank Schröter
    Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/8965-tutorial-2
    License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
     
    Ambient Relaxing Background by MusicLFiles
    Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/9007-ambient-relaxing-background
    License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
     
    Over The Rainbow by Sascha Ende®
    Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/319-over-the-rainbow
    License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
     

    • 50 min
    Interview - Brooke Binkowski on Joe Rogan and the Internet

    Interview - Brooke Binkowski on Joe Rogan and the Internet

    Chris and Jonathan welcome back to the show journalist Brooke Binkowski from Truth or Fiction to discuss the Joe Rogan/Spotify controversy and how we got here. The discussion includes what makes someone a journalist in 2022 and how reactionaries and extremists were early adopters of the Internet.
     
    2:10 Addressing common accusations
    3:44 The saga
    5:26 The mainstreaming of falsehoods
    8:21 Lack of responsibility and JAQing off
    10:06 The aesthetics of masculine rationality and The X-Files
    15:15 From harmless folklore to antisemitism
    18:35 What makes someone a journalist
    26:31 Moderating audio content
    29:20 The 1988 Internet and surf Nazis
    36:14 Monster Island, Galt’s Gulch, and Ram Ranch
    42:13 The Spotify seal of approval and YouTube’s feeble moderation
    46:08 The next five years of reactionary populism
     
     
    * Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl.
     
    To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.
     
    Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called “Digressions”! Check it out!
    And patrons will get a bonus segment from this interview in a week!
     
     
    Links:
    1) The Daily podcast on the Joe Rogan saga: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/11/podcasts/the-daily/joe-rogan-spotify.html
    2) Jonathan’s article on Joe Rogan: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health-and-nutrition-pseudoscience/science-vs-joe-rogan
    3) The open letter to Spotify: https://spotifyopenletter.wordpress.com/2022/01/10/an-open-letter-to-spotify/
    4) Aaron Rabinowitz’s article on Monster Island: https://www.skeptic.org.uk/2020/10/monster-island-free-speech-experiment/
    5) God Awful Movies’ review of Atlas Shrugged, Part 1: https://www.stitcher.com/show/god-awful-movies/episode/337-atlas-shrugged-part-one-90134592
    6) Truth or Fiction: https://www.truthorfiction.com/
    7) Brooke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/brooklynmarie

    • 58 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
57 Ratings

57 Ratings

debralps ,

Terrific scientific content

This is a very informative and clever podcast that breaks down complex issues into simple to understand facts. The Can con is also much appreciated

jjes2 ,

Great podcast. Enjoyable and trusted source of info

Started listening to these two back in graduate school a few years ago. They are able to convey nuanced and complicated info in a clear and satisfying manner. Really impressive. Their humour grows on you too! :)

PaulD_Canada ,

Funny and informational

This is a great podcast and one of my favourites. Current, funny, health based, and teaches me how “science” works in the world. The back catalogue is awesome, too.

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