The Called Life with Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry

Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry

Join Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry for her new podcast series, “PodClass: What’s the Fuss?” to hear scholars and ministry professionals from around the world talk about women in Christian ministry. Together we will explore what the Bible actually says on this topic and how we see the move of God’s Spirit in women throughout Christian history. Dr. Berry has designed this podcast series, or "PodClass," like one of her own Bible classes. Go to www.melisaortizberry.com for more study questions, links and resources for this continuing education PodClass!

  1. 17 hrs ago

    What’s the Fuss: Women in Christian Ministry: Changing My Mind

    Join Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry for this season’s PodClass, “What’s the Fuss?” to hear scholars and ministry professionals from around the world talk about women in Christian ministry. Together we will explore what the Bible actually says on this topic and how we see the move of God’s Spirit in women throughout Christian history. In Changing My Mind Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry and Aaron Dilla take apart the passages people use to shut women out of leadership and show why the issue is far more complicated than a flat, literal reading suggests. Aaron shares his own journey from noticing women already doing the work of ministry to digging into the Greek, the cultural world of the New Testament, and the selective literalism that shapes so much of this debate. Together, Melisa and Aaron unpack how translation choices can change what you think a verse means, why Ephesians 5 and 1 Timothy 2 are often read without enough context, and how terms like elder, overseer, deacon, and minister shift across Scripture.You'll discover: Why “husband of one wife” may be about more than marital status How Phoebe, Junia, Lydia, and Chloe challenge easy assumptions about women in leadership Why 2 John, Romans 16, and 1 Timothy 5 are often handled inconsistently How Roman culture, patriarchy, and church history shaped what people think the text says What it looks like to reason together instead of weaponizing verses Melisa also brings her own seminary story into the conversation, including the moment she was told to be quiet for asking a sincere question about 2 John. That tension between honest inquiry and church anxiety becomes a major thread in the episode, especially as Aaron explains how fear, tradition, and translation can all distort biblical interpretation. If you've ever wondered whether women can serve as elders, or you've felt stuck between your reading of Scripture and what you've been told to believe, this conversation gives you language, context, and courage. Essential listening for pastors, Bible students, church leaders, and anyone trying to navigate this question with both conviction and humility. #WomenInMinistry #BibleStudy #ScriptureStudy #WhatsTheFuss #PodClass #WomenInChurchLeadership #BiblicalInterpretation #ChristianPodcast #FaithAndReason #ChurchLeadership #WomenInTheBible #BibleDiscussion #TheologyTalk #ChristianWomen #FaithQuestions Melisa Ortiz Berry is a Bible teacher, author, and advocate for women in ministry. Drawing from her extensive study of ancient languages and biblical history, she offers nuanced insights for believers seeking biblical clarity on gender roles in church leadership. Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry has designed this podcast series, or "PodClass," like one of her own Bible classes. Go to⁠ ⁠www.melisaortizberry.com⁠⁠ for for more study questions, links and resources for this continuing education PodClass! Check out Melisa’s new book! God Has Named You: 25 Spiritual Identities to Reveal Who You Are Aaron Dilla is a pastor and church leader committed to thoughtful, context-aware biblical interpretation. He leads at Northwood Christian Church where women serve as elders and has spent years examining the cultural context, original languages, translation choices, and interpretive traditions that shape conversations about women in ministry. Check out Aaron’s Christians for Biblical Equality article on women speaking at church for more on this.  Through his teaching and ministry, Aaron encourages people to move beyond selective literalism and approach difficult questions with intellectual honesty, humility, and a willingness to reason together. His work explores how Scripture, church history, and cultural assumptions influence who is heard and empowered in the church. P.S.: Stay in the know! Sign up for Melisa’s ministry newsletter!

  2. Sep 7

    What’s the Fuss: Women in Christian Ministry: 1 Cor 14: Quiet & Quietude

    Join Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry for this season’s PodClass, “What’s the Fuss?” to hear scholars and ministry professionals from around the world talk about women in Christian ministry. Together we will explore what the Bible actually says on this topic and how we see the move of God’s Spirit in women throughout Christian history. In Episode 7: 1 Cor 14: Quiet & Quietude  Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry and Ron Clark discuss that Women’s voices were never meant to be silenced. explore First Timothy 2 and First Corinthians 14 through the lens of women in Christian ministry, church culture, and the meaning of “quiet” and “silent” in context. Melisa Ortiz Berry is joined by Ron Clark, whose work in ministry and domestic violence advocacy shapes a perspective centered on Scripture, culture, and human harm. In this conversation, they unpack what Scripture actually says about women in ministry, how English translations can flatten the text, why context matters, and how abuse, control, and shame often get hidden behind selective Bible reading. They also connect Paul’s instructions to the realities of Roman culture, honor and shame, and the ways churches sometimes use Scripture inconsistently. The conversation distinguishes between broad church practices, from women only singing in the pews to women preaching and serving as ministers Ron argues that First Timothy 2 is about modesty, peace, and social context, not a blanket command for women to never speak They discuss the meaning of “quiet” in First Timothy 2 as peaceful, respectful conduct rather than literal speechlessness First Corinthians 14 is examined alongside First Corinthians 11, where women pray and prophesy in worship Ron contrasts inconsistent literalism around women’s silence with selective enforcement on men’s head coverings and behavior The episode widens into a discussion of abuse, power, and why churches must not use Scripture to protect control or silence victims Melisa and Ron connect biblical interpretation with domestic violence advocacy, clergy training, and pastoral responsibility Ron closes by highlighting Proverbs and Lady Wisdom as a biblical example of a powerful female voice “God does not approve of abuse.” “We need a better theology.” “It’s not shameful for a woman to speak or for any of us to speak out.” #WhatsTheFuss #WomenInMinistry #ChristianPodcast #BibleStudy #FirstTimothy2 #FirstCorinthians14 #FaithConversation #WomenOfFaith #Theology #ChurchDiscussion #womenpreachers #ladypreachers #womensordination #metoochurch #churchtoo Melisa Ortiz Berry is a Bible teacher, author, and advocate for women in ministry. Drawing from her extensive study of ancient languages and biblical history, she offers nuanced insights for believers seeking biblical clarity on gender roles in church leadership. Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry has designed this podcast series, or "PodClass," like one of her own Bible classes. Go to⁠ ⁠www.melisaortizberry.com⁠⁠ for for more study questions, links and resources for this continuing education PodClass! Check out Melisa’s new book! God Has Named You: 25 Spiritual Identities to Reveal Who You Are Ron Clark  Ron Clark is a professor and minister connected with George Fox University, and he works in domestic and sexual violence advocacy, including courtroom witnessing and clergy training. He brings together biblical scholarship, ministry experience, and trauma-informed insight to challenge harmful readings of Scripture and advocate for the vulnerable. To find out more about Ron and Lori’s ministry check out www.agapecm.org/about-us Ron’s Books are available from www.agapecm.org/store P.S.: Stay in the know! Sign up for Melisa’s ministry newsletter! Key topicsNotable quotes

  3. Aug 31

    What’s the Fuss: Women in Christian Ministry: 1 Tim 2: It’s “Wives” not “Women”

    Join Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry for this season's PodClass, "What's the Fuss?” to hear scholars and ministry professionals from around the world talk about women in Christian ministry. Together we will explore what the Bible actually says on this topic and how we see the move of God’s Spirit in women throughout Christian history. In Episode 6: 1 Tim 2: It’s “Wives” not “Women” Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry and Joe Hoover discuss the impact of how a single word can change the meaning of an entire passage and why this matters for understanding scripture. In the realm of biblical translation, the nuances of gender can shape our understanding of scripture profoundly. In this episode delve into an engaging discussion with Joe Hoover, an expert in Bible translation, who sheds light on the term "gune" - a word that can mean both "woman" and "wife."  When discussing First Timothy 2, Joe highlights how the interpretation of "gune" can lead to significant theological implications. The verse states that a woman should learn in quietness and full submission, which has sparked debate regarding women's roles in the church and society. The singular form of "gune" suggests a shift to discussing a specific woman, likely indicating a wife, rather than women in general. This distinction is crucial for understanding Paul's intent in this passage and how it has been applied historically. Key Insights from the Discussion 1. Grammatical Nuances Matter: The switch from plural to singular in the text signals a change in focus that translators must consider. It’s not merely a linguistic detail but a marker of a new unit of thought. 2. Cultural Context is Essential: The interpretation of gender roles in scripture is influenced by cultural understandings. Recognizing the cultural context helps to elucidate the meaning behind the text. 3. Translation Choices Have Implications: How translators handle terms like "gune" can shape theological perspectives and discussions about gender roles in the church. Joseph Hoover's insights reveal the complexity of biblical translation and its far-reaching implications for understanding gender in the Christian faith. By examining grammar, context, and cultural significance, we can appreciate the depth of scripture more fully. Translators play a crucial role in bridging the gap between ancient texts and modern understanding, making it vital for readers to engage with these discussions critically. Key Takeaways 1.  The term "gune" can mean both "woman" and "wife," depending on context. 2.  The transition from plural to singular in scripture indicates a significant shift in focus. 3. Cultural and grammatical nuances are essential for accurate biblical interpretation. #BibleTranslation #WomenInMinistry #FaithDiscussion #Gune #FirstTimothy2 Melisa Ortiz Berry is a Bible teacher, author, and advocate for women in ministry. Drawing from her extensive study of ancient languages and biblical history, she offers nuanced insights for believers seeking biblical clarity on gender roles in church leadership. Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry has designed this podcast series, or "PodClass," like one of her own Bible classes. Go to⁠ ⁠www.melisaortizberry.com⁠⁠ for for more study questions, links and resources for this continuing education PodClass! Check out Melisa’s new book! God Has Named You: 25 Spiritual Identities to Reveal Who You Are Joe Hoover serves as a Literacy Consultant and Global Worker, contributing to translating the Bible into languages that have never had a Bible before. His work is pivotal in making scripture accessible to diverse cultures and communities. With years of experience, he brings a unique perspective to the interpretation of biblical texts, particularly regarding gender. P.S.: Stay in the know! Sign up for Melisa’s ministry newsletter!

  4. Aug 24

    What’s the Fuss: Women in Christian Ministry: Genesis

    Join Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry for this season's PodClass, "What's the Fuss?” to hear scholars and ministry professionals from around the world talk about women in Christian ministry. Together we will explore what the Bible actually says on this topic and how we see the move of God’s Spirit in women throughout Christian history. In Episode 5: Genesis Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry and Rick Hess explore Genesis 2 and 3 and discuss why: Ezer is not “assistant” - it points to strong, side-by-side help. The “desire” in Genesis 3:16 is more like a struggle for control, not a reason to dismiss women. The curse breaks harmony - it does not describe God’s ideal for marriage or ministry. That changes the whole conversation. And honestly, it also changes how we read women in Scripture - Deborah, Huldah, Ruth, and more. Highlights: If we read carefully, we don’t get less faith. We get deeper faith. Save this talk for the next time someone says “the Bible clearly says…” The full conversation is worth the listen!  #BibleStudy #Genesis316 #WomenInMinistry #ChristianPodcast #FaithDiscussion Melisa Ortiz Berry is a Bible teacher, author, and advocate for women in ministry. Drawing from her extensive study of ancient languages and biblical history, she offers nuanced insights for believers seeking biblical clarity on gender roles in church leadership. Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry has designed this podcast series, or "PodClass," like one of her own Bible classes. Go to⁠ ⁠www.melisaberry.com⁠⁠ for for more study questions, links and resources for this continuing education PodClass! Get a copy of Dr. Berry’s new book, God Has Named You: 25 Spiritual Identities to Reavel Who You Are. It’s great for personal use or in a group! Richard Hess, “Rick,” is the Distinguished Professor of Old Testament and Semitic Languages at Denver Theological Seminary. He is a member of the Committee on Bible Translation for the New International Version.  He not only co-pastors 3:16, a Cumberland Presbyterian Church, but is the author of 9 books and has edited over 60 books. Some of his books are: The Old Testament: A Historical, Theological, and Critical Introduction; Israelite Religions, Studies in the Personal names Genesis:1-11;  and Exploring the Composition of the Pentateuch. He also has a commentary on 2 Kings coming out soon! Check out https://oldtestamentquestions.com/ where you can ask Rick a question!

  5. Aug 17

    What’s the Fuss: Women in Christian Ministry: Culture and Calling

    Join Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry for this season's PodClass, "What's the Fuss?” to hear scholars and ministry professionals from around the world talk about women in Christian ministry. Together we will explore what the Bible actually says on this topic and how we see the move of God’s Spirit in women throughout Christian history. In Episode 4: Culture and Calling Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry and Lisa Pak explore how cultural expectations, church traditions, and personal calling shape women in ministry. They talk honestly about the challenges of leadership, the pressure to conform, representation, calling, and the courage it takes to answer God’s call anyway. Lisa encourages women to stay the course, trust God to open the doors, and keep showing up in obedience. If you’ve ever wrestled with identity, obedience, or where you fit in the church, this conversation is for you. #WomenInMinistry #ChristianLeadership #Faith #Calling #Ministry #WomenLeaders #ChurchLeadership Melisa Ortiz Berry is a Bible teacher, author, and advocate for women in ministry. Drawing from her extensive study of ancient languages and biblical history, she offers nuanced insights for believers seeking biblical clarity on gender roles in church leadership. Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry has designed this podcast series, or "PodClass," like one of her own Bible classes. Go to⁠ ⁠www.melisaberry.com⁠⁠ for for more study questions, links and resources for this continuing education PodClass! Lisa Pak serves as the director of Partners in Asia for Finishing the Task https://finishingthetask.com. She also works with Wycliffe USA and is an advocate for women’s leadership.   Lisa, born and raised in Toronto, has lived and served across Korea, Singapore, and the Northeastern United States, her experience in ministry and cross-cultural leadership deeply shapes how she thinks about women answering the call to lead.

  6. Aug 10

    What’s the Fuss: Women in Christian Ministry, Gender-Accurate Language

    Join Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry for this season's PodClass, "What's the Fuss?” to hear scholars and ministry professionals from around the world talk about women in Christian ministry. Together we will explore what the Bible actually says on this topic and how we see the move of God’s Spirit in women throughout Christian history. In Episode 3: Gender-Accurate Language Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry and Jeff Miller explore whether different translations shape how women are seen in the church? The way Bible translators handle gender words like "man" or "he" influences the whole view of women's roles in faith. It’s not just about words; it’s about how those words shape beliefs and behaviors. Have you noticed how many versions say "men" when the Greek directly translated meant "people" - men and women? What if your Bible was more gender accurate? Would it change how you see women’s voices in church? Drop a like if you've ever felt unsure about what your Bible truly says about men and women. #BiblicalEquality #GenderInTranslation #FaithInFocus #WomenInChurch Melisa Ortiz Berry is a Bible teacher, author, and advocate for women in ministry. Drawing from her extensive study of ancient languages and biblical history, she offers nuanced insights for believers seeking biblical clarity on gender roles in church leadership.Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry has designed this podcast series, or "PodClass," like one of her own Bible classes. Go to⁠ ⁠www.melisaberry.com⁠⁠ for for more study questions, links and resources for this continuing education PodClass! Jeff Miller is The Veara Britton Chair of Bible; Professor of Bible at Milligan University He has co-authored an article on Ephesians 5:33 with Julie Walsh.  This is freely available online at https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20516770231151420 Jeff draws from chapter 23 of Discovering Biblical Equality (IVP Academic, 3rd ed., 2021), titled “A Defense of Gender-Accurate Bible Translation.”  This is available at bookstores and can be found at Amazon.com:  Discovering Biblical Equality: Biblical, Theological, Cultural, and Practical Perspectives: 9780830854790: Pierce, Ronald W, Westfall, Cynthia Long, McKirland, Christa L: Books.

  7. Jul 30

    What’s the Fuss: Women in Christian Ministry. The Bible is the Foundation with Dr Kelley Mathews.

    Join Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry for this season's PodClass, "What's the Fuss?” to hear scholars and ministry professionals from around the world talk about women in Christian ministry. Together we will explore what the Bible actually says on this topic and how we see the move of God’s Spirit in women throughout Christian history. In Episode 1: The Bible is the Foundation Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry and Dr. Kelley Mathews invite you to unlock the truth behind women’s roles in the church. Discover how differing views on gender roles shape your understanding of Scripture, leadership, and ministry today. If you’ve ever wondered whether women can or should serve as pastors, elders, or leaders, this episode will deepen your perspective. This episode covers specific methods for approaching controversial passages, understanding biblical words and embracing a humble, respectful dialogue across theological lines. Whether you're a believer eager to align your support for women’s leadership with Scripture or someone questioning long-held beliefs, you'll discover how humility, study, and history broaden the conversation and foster grace. Dr. Kelley Mathews is an author, editor, graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary and Houston Theological Seminary. Bible Study leader and women’s ministry director. and she is a team member and mentor for The Called Initiative. Melisa Ortiz Berry is a Bible teacher, author, and advocate for women in ministry. Drawing from her extensive study of ancient languages and biblical history, she offers nuanced insights for believers seeking biblical clarity on gender roles in church leadership.Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry has designed this podcast series, or "PodClass," like one of her own Bible classes. Go to⁠ ⁠www.melisaberry.com⁠⁠ for for more study questions, links and resources for this continuing education PodClass! Dr. Kelley Mathews is an author, editor, graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary and Houston Theological Seminary. Bible Study leader and women’s ministry director. and she is a team member and mentor for the Called Initiative. https://www.kelleymathews.com substack: https://kelleymathews.substack.com Visual Museum of the Bible: https://www.visualmuseum.gallery Co-author of 40 Questions About Women in Ministry https://www.amazon.co.uk/40-Questions-about-Women-Ministry/dp/0825447259

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Join Dr. Melisa Ortiz Berry for her new podcast series, “PodClass: What’s the Fuss?” to hear scholars and ministry professionals from around the world talk about women in Christian ministry. Together we will explore what the Bible actually says on this topic and how we see the move of God’s Spirit in women throughout Christian history. Dr. Berry has designed this podcast series, or "PodClass," like one of her own Bible classes. Go to www.melisaortizberry.com for more study questions, links and resources for this continuing education PodClass!

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