In this episode of The Unbridled Equestrian Podcast, Katrina sits down with Emma Kjelson, animal behaviorist and founder of Dynamic Equine, for a grounded, eye opening conversation about what horses are really telling us through their bodies, their movement, and their reactions under saddle. Emma’s work lives at the intersection of equine behavior and biomechanics. As a certified IAABC Equine Behaviour Consultant and certified Equine Bodyworker, she combines movement science with behavior analysis to spot the subtle indicators most people miss, the tiny signs of tension, asymmetry, stress, or hesitation that can signal deeper biomechanical strain or psychological overwhelm. Instead of pushing through, she teaches riders how to get curious, slow down, and build programs that support symmetry, flexibility, power, and willingness without sacrificing welfare. Together, Katrina and Emma unpack why performance issues often show up when something else is off first, pain, stress, confusion, fear, rider tension, or mismatched expectations. They talk about rider psychology and emotional regulation, how our nervous systems shape the ride more than we want to admit, and what ethical performance really looks like when the goal is a willing partner, not just a compliant athlete. If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing “everything right” and your horse still seems resistant, inconsistent, or shut down, this conversation will help you zoom out, connect the dots, and rethink what support can actually look like. Check out Emma’s podcast, The Friends On Horses Podcast, and learn more about her work at https://dynamicequine.ca/ including her collaboration with exercise psychologist Annika McGivern at Illuminate Equine International. In This Episode, We Get Into: • How Emma blends movement science and behavior to improve performance and welfare • The subtle signs of distress that often get mislabeled as attitude or training gaps • Why curiosity is the most underrated skill in horse care • How rider emotional state can shape horse behavior and decision making • Ethical performance and what it means to prioritize willingness • Why individualized training works better than cookie cutter methods • How understanding horse evolution can change modern welfare practices Standout Moments: • “Curiosity is key in horse care.” • “We want the calm, grounded focus.” • “It’s a team sport.” Keywords: equine behavior, biomechanics, horse welfare, rider psychology, performance issues, animal behaviorist, equine training, horse care, emotional regulation, equestrian sports