10 episodes

No, Thucydides did not say that! Historian Neville Morley explores the origins of misquotations and misattributions.

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No, Thucydides did not say that! Historian Neville Morley explores the origins of misquotations and misattributions.

    Thucydiocy Episode 10: Vines, Olives, Barbarism and Civilisation

    Thucydiocy Episode 10: Vines, Olives, Barbarism and Civilisation

    "The peoples of the Mediterranean began to emerge from barbarism when they learned to cultivate the olive and the vine." Well, it could have come from Thucydides' account of the early development of Greece, but it doesn't; why do all the wine writers think it does, then?

    • 26 min
    Thucydiocy Episode 9:Keeping Feasts and Reprimanding Friends

    Thucydiocy Episode 9:Keeping Feasts and Reprimanding Friends

    Who knew that Thucydides had wise words to say about the duty to call out your friends when they're out of order, or to support the Christian condemnation of public festivals?

    • 33 min
    Thucydiocy Episode 8: The Tyranny Athens imposed...

    Thucydiocy Episode 8: The Tyranny Athens imposed...

    ...on others, it eventually imposed on itself." A key quote for journalist Chris Hedges in analysing the present state of the USA - but if it's not actually Thucydides (who never wrote about the rule of the Thirty Tyrants in Athens), who was it?

    • 34 min
    Thucydiocy Episode 7: Punish False Accusers...

    Thucydiocy Episode 7: Punish False Accusers...

    "You should punish those who commit crimes in the same manner as those who accuse falsely" - which doesn't actually make much sense if you think about it, quite apart from the fact that there's no trace of this idea in Thucydides.

    • 33 min
    Thucydiocy Episode 6: Justice will not come to Athens...

    Thucydiocy Episode 6: Justice will not come to Athens...

    ...until those who are not injured are as outraged as those who are. Thucydides? Ben Franklin? Socrates? No, it's someone much more interesting: the sixth-century BCE Athenian poet and statesman Solon. Never heard of him? This is why you should...

    • 30 min
    Thucydiocy Episode 5: Hope is Expensive

    Thucydiocy Episode 5: Hope is Expensive

    "Hope is an expensive commodity. It makes better sense to be prepared." A topical quote for a time of global pandemic - and at least half of it is genuine Thucydides. The other half is arguably more interesting...

    • 16 min

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