Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Dave Stewart
Podcast Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Dave from the Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Blog interviews the biggest names in fly fishing and fly tying today. He digs out all of the best fly fishing tips and tricks to help you understand how to choose the right gear, find fish, present the fly, discover new patterns and much more. Find out about new rods, lines, techniques, knots, tying tools and unheard of tips along with great stories about life and the times of some of the most knowledgeable guides, shop owners, and fisherman from around the world. Season 1 covers all things steelhead fishing. Better understand topics like spey casting, nymphing vs. swinging flies, intruders, finding fish, conservation and finding new waters. Come join us for the current season and share the stories and great memories told by amazing people.

  1. 658 | Jay Fair Trolling Flies with Denis Peirce – Trout, California, Stillwater

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    658 | Jay Fair Trolling Flies with Denis Peirce – Trout, California, Stillwater

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/658   Presented By:  Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Skwala, Yellowstone Teton Territory      Denis Peirce, radio show host and trolling flies guru, is here to take us into the history of the great Jay Fair, how all this came to be, and his connection to Jay.   Today, you’ll learn how to troll flies with your current gear, the secret to manipulating your fly, and even hear the story behind the wiggle fin that started with a WD-40 can!   Grab your favorite drink and get ready for a laid-back way to catch some big fish!   Show Notes with Denis Peirce on Trolling Flies.     03:50 - Denis grew up fishing in Southern California with his grandfather. Over the years, he built a successful business selling flies to resorts and fly shops. He focused on places where people actually fished, like the Sierras and up the West Coast.   06:31 - Denis talks about Jay Fair’s unique trolling system. Jay used a sink tip line to keep his fly just below the surface, trolling near shallow areas where trout would feed.   07:46 - Denis started working with Jay Fair in the late '90s. Jay met Denis at the International Sportsman's Expo and asked him to produce the flies on a larger scale. Jay provided the kits with all the materials, and Denis handled the production and shipping.   Getting Started with Trolling Flies   12:58 - Denis talks about how to start trolling with flies, even if you’re new to it. He says your current rods, reels, and lines will do. If you have a spool of 2X tippet, you can make a longer leader, and you're set. A sinking or sink tip line works better, but even a standard floater can work.   14:49 - We discuss why trolling flies might get negative reactions and why it's a great technique. He says trolling is great because it’s less physically demanding than casting all day. Plus, trolling helps cover a lot of water, which is key when fish are scattered.   Check out our Episode with Denny Rickards.   Best Conditions for Trolling Flies   17:50 - Early mornings and low light are prime trolling times because fish are likelier to be in shallow areas. Fish will drop deeper as the sun rises and the water gets clearer.   Denis stresses that fishing is like solving a puzzle; you must adjust your technique based on daily conditions.   20:55 - Denis recommends letting your boat glide to a stop to let your gear sink, then speeding up again to move the gear through different depths. Changing direction also helps provoke strikes, as fish react to movement.   22:17 - Trolling flies are designed to attract trout, which are visual feeders. They feature long tails and wings to create movement in the water. The action disc can make the fly swim even more attractively.   25:59 - The WiggleFin Action Disc is a small plastic disc that adds movement to your fly and makes it more attractive to fish. Dean Teegarden was inspired by a creative fisherman using sequins and a leech pattern. Dean took that idea and made the disc using a contact lens holder and a tube from a WD-40 can.   29:06 - Jay Fair used a floating fly line and manipulated it by adding a mend—basically flicking the rod to make the fly pulse and change speed. This technique makes the fly move more naturally.   Fishing Show with Dennis Peirce   33:13 - Denis shares about his weekly radio show that’s been on air since the early '90s. It runs every Friday night from 6 to 7 PM. The radio show started as a way for Denis to connect with his fly fishing customers and learn more about their local fishing spots.   40:42 - When trolling, any streamer fly will work, but deceivers are especially cool if you let them soak for 10 minutes. You can use tube flies and stack them to make long flies.   47:53 - Denis says to focus on structure in the water to find big fish. Finding structure is key, so invest in a basic fish finder to locate it.   For trolling, you can use

    1 Std. 9 Min.
  2. Huron River Watershed Council with Belinda Friis and Ric Lawson - River Restoration, Smallmouth Bass, Great Lakes

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    Huron River Watershed Council with Belinda Friis and Ric Lawson - River Restoration, Smallmouth Bass, Great Lakes

    Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/657 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Togens Fly Shop, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Have you ever thought about that urban stream that's flowing right near your home right now? As water runs off the street and into the creek, what happens next? Who's looking after the creek? And who's protecting those fish species that are inhabiting those areas? Today you're gonna get an inside view of a watershed council that is protecting their basin on a large scale. And we're gonna talk about how this all ties into the smallmouth bass trip and giveaway we're doing right now. So you know a little bit more about how to protect your own streams and how to get involved in this big trip. Belinda Friis and Rick Lawson from the Huron River Watershed Council are here to shed light on the work they're doing to protect one of the biggest and most important rivers in the Michigan area of the Great Lakes. You're gonna find out today what forever chemicals are and what they are doing to help protect these chemicals from getting into our streams. You're gonna find out what the Stonefly search is all about and how this is helping to prepare some of the work they're doing out in their area. And you're also gonna get a little bit of hope, actually a lot of hope into looking at the future. We've talked a lot about this on the podcast. There's definitely some ups and downs in species populations, but today we're gonna be talking about a few in this area and you're gonna get some good direction moving forward. Plus, did I mention it? We're gonna be giving away a trip to Schultz Outfitters, and if you wanna get involved in this trip, you can do it. We'll talk about that at the end. Definitely pumped to get into the Detroit area, putting Detroit on the map, the Huron River. This is gonna be awesome. So let's give back to another great organization. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/657

    1 Std. 10 Min.
  3. Smallmouth Bass Fishing with Mike Schultz - Schultz Outfitters, Michigan Rivers, Softshell Turtles

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    Smallmouth Bass Fishing with Mike Schultz - Schultz Outfitters, Michigan Rivers, Softshell Turtles

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/656  Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, TroutRoutes, Visit Helena, MT, Skwala Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors    In today's episode, Mike Schultz from Schultz Outfitters shares his invaluable insights to help make your next smallmouth bass fishing trip a roaring success. From headhunting strategies and the importance of the right angle, to understanding how temperature influences your fishing methods throughout the year, this episode covers it all. Plus, we delve into some unique tips, like how chasing softshell turtles can improve your bass fishing game. So, let's get into it and uncover why smallmouth bass fishing is a favorite among some of the best anglers in the country. Episode Chapters with Mike Schultz on Smallmouth Bass Fishing 3:14 - We discuss the unique aspects of smallmouth bass fishing in Michigan. Mike highlights that the local rivers, being smaller and more intimate, offer a special experience compared to larger watersheds. Mike mentions that their standard fishing trips involve using Clackacraft skiffs, which are perfectly suited for their rivers. The guides have flexibility in scheduling trips, adjusting based on the time of year and water conditions. 6:29 - We get into the fishing conditions and expectations for our upcoming trip in July 2025. Mike mentions that July is typically great for topwater fishing, using poppers and terrestrial baits similar to trout fishing gear. There are also insect hatches, such as mayflies, that can start in early June and last into September, providing various fishing opportunities. 10:14 - We discuss plans for a fishing trip in Michigan, focusing on the unique aspects of fishing in the Great Lakes region. Mike describes their different fishing programs available in mid-July, including opportunities to catch numerous smallmouth bass or targeting larger fish in smaller rivers. He emphasizes that by mid-summer, large fish often remain in fixed areas, allowing for more strategic fishing. 14:08 - According to Mike, the state record in Michigan for smallmouth bass is over nine pounds, but such large fish are typically found in lakes and not in the rivers where they fish. Their focus is more on the length of the fish, with a 20-inch smallmouth being considered mature and noteworthy. He mentions that their crew catches around 25 to 30 smallmouth bass each year that are 20 inches or larger. 16:06 - For a successful smallmouth bass fishing from a drift boat, Mike emphasizes the importance of keeping the fly out front of the boat rather than off to the side. This approach helps keep the angler undetected and ensures a more effective hook set when the fish inhales the fly. He further explains that this method not only improves your chances but also provides a better experience for all on the boat. 21:13 - We talk about the evolution of drift boats in their region. Mike reminisces about the old aluminum drift boats, especially the big 16-foot models. He explains that initially, large aluminum boats were common, but over time, companies like Hyde and Stealth Craft began producing lighter, narrower boats that are more suitable for the local rivers. These boats are easier to maneuver and can be equipped with small motors, which helps them cover long stretches of river without exhausting themselves. 24:45 - Mike attributes the Schultz Outfitters' success to longevity in the field, treating people well, fulfilling promises, and compensating team members fairly. He mentions key figures like Jeff Liskay and Greg Senyo, highlighting their expertise and humility despite not being very active on social media. He also notes the special environment they've created at Schultz Outfitters, which some customers deeply appreciate. 28:25 - Mike runs through the normal year at their shop. They do a lot of fly tying focused events from January to February. He also mentions one of their big annual events which is called Bobbin the

    1 Std. 9 Min.
  4. Hunting Musky with a Fly with Rick Kustich — New York, Great Lakes

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    Hunting Musky with a Fly with Rick Kustich — New York, Great Lakes

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/654 Presented By:  Visit Helena, MT, Togiak River Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Waters West You may have heard of today's guest from the books and content he's written about spey and steelhead fishing. But did you know that he also has an amazing book on another hard-to-master species? Today, we'll walk through the biggest tips from this book so that you might have a better shot at a giant musky this season. Rick Kustich, author of Hunting Musky with a Fly, is here to share his top tips on landing that elusive musky. You'll learn how to tease a strike, where most fish occur, and the three key tips to keep the big one on the line. Ready to profile a predator musky style? Show Notes with Rick Kustich on Hunting Musky with a Fly 01:31 - It's been over a year since we had Rick on the podcast, where we talked about spey fishing and steelhead. Rick had a pretty good year with lots of good steelhead and musky fishing. But he did shake things up with a trip to Patagonia in South America to target sea-run brown trout. Hunting Musky with a Fly 04:35 - Today, we will discuss Rick's book Hunting Musky with a Fly. It's a great resource for anyone interested in musky fishing. You can contact Rick through his website or Instagram for a signed, personalized copy of the book. The book can also be found at various fly shops, bookstores, and, of course, on Amazon. 07:06 - Rick pitched the idea of the book around 2013, but it was turned down because musky fly fishing wasn't popular yet. By 2017, with more people getting into musky fishing, Rick's book Hunting Musky with a Fly was finally released. Why Muskies Are So Hard to Catch 09:06 - Muskies are one of the hardest freshwater fish to catch consistently. They don't need to feed often and have specific feeding windows during the day. 12:19 - Rick explains that understanding Muskies as apex predators is key. They’re picky eaters, so anglers need to trigger them into striking. He suggests using the figure-eight technique, even when you don't see a fish following your fly. 18:05 - Rick also mentions that while figure eight is his go-to, you must also read the fish's behavior. For example, a slow, teasing retrieve can be as effective if the fish seems interested but isn't taking the bait immediately. Water clarity plays a big role too. 22:12—New York offers a diverse muskie fishery with different strains, including the Great Lakes strain found in the Niagara River. Muskies are native to this area and have various strains in various locations. While their original range was in the Northeast and Midwest, they’ve been stocked in many other places, including Nebraska and the western states. Tiger muskies, a hybrid between pike and musky, are also found out west. Keeping Your Head in the Game 25:57 - Stay focused during those long days when you might not catch any fish. It can be tough, especially if you're new and questioning everything. But experience teaches you that each cast brings you closer to a catch. Stay engaged, and keep your energy up. Even when it’s slow, every cast counts, and being ready could lead to the catch of a lifetime. How to Find the Best Spots for Muskies 28:45 - Muskies usually stick close to food sources, so look for areas with plenty of bait. In big waters like the Niagara River, focus on edges and structures like weed beds and drop-offs. Look for log jams, overhanging brush, and slower water spots for smaller rivers. Muskies often hang out in these areas to save energy and ambush prey. Casting for Muskies 41:52 - For big, open water, like deep rivers, you must make long casts to keep your fly down longer. Rick uses a two-handed rod, around 9.5 feet long, with a heavy line for distance and depth. Use the bottom hand to pull and the top hand to guide for speed. After retrieving the fly, sweep the rod to get some line out, then use one or two false casts to get it back in the water. A shorter rod an

    1 Std. 9 Min.
  5. Fly Fishing New Zealand with Ronan Creane - Sight Fishing, Brown Trout, Ireland

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    Fly Fishing New Zealand with Ronan Creane - Sight Fishing, Brown Trout, Ireland

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/653 Presented By: Waters West, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee, Visit Helena, MT Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors    In this episode, Ronan Creane, a renowned fly fishing guide with deep ties to Ireland, is here to talk all about fly fishing New Zealand. Ronan specializes in sight fishing for brown trout and has been a passionate fly angler for decades, following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather. If you've ever dreamt of casting your line in the pristine waters of New Zealand, this episode is a must-listen. Ronan takes us on an in-depth journey through the best fishing spots, the ideal times to visit, and expert tips on sight fishing for those elusive big browns. You'll also learn why a trip to New Zealand might be more attainable than you think, and how to make the most of your adventure without suffering from jet lag. Episode Chapters with Ronan Creane on Fly Fishing New Zealand 2:04 - Ronan shares his background, explaining he grew up in Ireland and moved to New Zealand at age 24. His earliest fishing memories involve catching tiny trout in a stream near his house using a jam jar and a net. Fly fishing runs in his family, with his father and grandfather being skilled fly fishermen. Although introduced to it gradually, he received his first fly rod at age 12 from his grandfather. 8:21 - He worked as a guide on two iconic salmon and sea trout fisheries in Ireland, starting at age 18. He continued guiding during visits home while exploring fly fishing globally. He highlights the decline of sea trout fishing in Ireland, which began in the late 1980s to early 1990s, coinciding with the rise of salmon farming. 12:28 - We start to dig into fly fishing in New Zealand, specifically in the small town of Alexandra on the South Island. Ronan describes his work as a guide, focusing mainly on brown trout, although rainbow trout are also present in the rivers and lakes he fishes. He emphasizes that his fishing is mostly river-based, but he also enjoys lake fishing due to his background. The average fish he targets weighs around three to four pounds. He aims for larger fish, typically five to six pounds, and mentions that he and his clients have caught around 20 double-figure fish. 15:11 - We talk about some sight fishing techniques, particularly in rivers. Ronan explains that the ideal scenario is finding a fish "on station," meaning it's feeding in one spot, which gives the angler time to plan their approach. He contrasts this with a fish that is cruising, which requires a different, more dynamic strategy. The key to success in New Zealand, according to Ronan, is making the first cast accurately. Multiple attempts can alert the fish, making it harder to catch. 18:30 - Ronan explains his preference for using a dry fly as an indicator since fish can take a dry fly at any time of the year. However, he notes that if a fish is swinging, it’s more likely to take a nymph. He also describes the importance of watching the dry fly for any movement indicating a strike, but he also stresses the value of directly observing the fish’s mouth if visible to catch subtle takes that the dry fly might not indicate. 20:39 - We talk about the fishing opportunities in New Zealand, particularly in the South Island. Ronan elaborates on various regions such as Mackenzie District (known for lakes and rivers), the West Coast (wild and remote), Southland (with numerous rivers), and Otago (where Ronan is based, offering a variety of fishing experiences). He mentions the availability of brown trout and sea trout, noting that sea trout, which migrate to the ocean and return, can grow significantly larger, sometimes up to 15 pounds. 23:00 - Ronan has been part of Sexyloops since around 2003, not long after its establishment in 1998. Their collaboration began when Ronan met Paul during the filming of an early fishing movie, leading to friendship and numerous fishing trips toge

    1 Std. 4 Min.
  6. Fly Fishing Newfoundland with Ryan & Les Wentzell and Rod Brophy - Lee Wulff, Atlantic Salmon

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    Fly Fishing Newfoundland with Ryan & Les Wentzell and Rod Brophy - Lee Wulff, Atlantic Salmon

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/652 Presented By:  Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Angler's Coffee, Stonefly Nets   What if I told you there's a place where you can fish the same waters as Lee Wulff and have a great chance at catching an Atlantic salmon on the fly? Today, we will dive into the rich history and present-day fly fishing Newfoundland with the head guides from Mountain Waters Resort, Ryan & Les Wentzell and Rod Brophy. You'll discover the secrets of fishing the riffle hitch, why you should stay put in the pools instead of stepping down, and even why 4-lb tippet is the go-to at certain times of the year. Plus, learn how to hook a giant Atlantic salmon like Lee Wulff did. Show Notes with Ryan, Les, and Rod on Fly Fishing Newfoundland.  02:35 - Ryan grew up at the lodge, which his parents, Les and Paulette Wentzell, and two other couples purchased. The 170-acre property was originally owned by Lee Wulff. 05:23 - The lodge is in Daniels Arbor, Newfoundland, a small town with a rich fishing history. After nearly 30 years of operation, Ryan took over the lodge in 2019 and has been upgrading it ever since. The Riffling Hitch  10:05 - Rod uses surface fishing with dry flies, like bombers, all year long. The riffling hitch creates a wake on the water, which makes it easier to spot the fish. This method is better than just using a regular wet fly. Rod mentioned that even big fish, up to 40 pounds, have been caught using this technique, and it’s essential for consistent success. 20:17 - Les shares that Lee Wulff flew his float plane from New York to Newfoundland in the 1940s. He explored the rivers and set up fishing operations, including at Portland Creek. When a road was built nearby in 1956, Lee moved on to other projects. 28:11 - Rod shared how you can still fish in the spots where Lee Wulff used to catch fish. Many spots are still popular today. The area also offers amazing trout fishing, especially in nearby lakes. Fly Fishing Newfoundland 30:02 - Ryan explained how people get to their fishing location. Most folks fly into Deer Lake Regional Airport, about two hours from the fishing area. Once they arrive, Ryan's team picks them up, and they can start fishing immediately. Some people drive all the way, but that takes longer with a 10-hour ferry ride from Nova Scotia. 32:52 - Most guests focus on Atlantic salmon, but there’s also great brook trout fishing in the area.  They can also visit spots like the River of Ponds and see salmon at Hawke's Bay. Plus, if you're interested in cod fishing, that’s an option too. 35:04 - Rod says that catching Atlantic salmon is very likely, even for new anglers. He suggests using a 9 ft 9 wt rod and casting at a 45-degree angle across the river. The key is to adjust to the conditions and pay attention to the guide’s tips for a successful catch. 40:46 - Rod advises staying in one spot for at least an hour when fishing for Atlantic salmon. He explained that fish often settle in large pools, and you might be fishing over 25 to 30 fish in one spot. Ryan shares a cool story about Henry Green, who fished at their place from 1957 to 2022. Henry was a big part of their history; loved salmon fishing and bird watching. Check out this video of Henry Green. 1:00:13 - Ryan highlights all the cool stuff to do in Newfoundland besides fishing. Gros Morne National Park is close by with boat tours and hiking. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/652

    1 Std. 11 Min.

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Dave from the Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Blog interviews the biggest names in fly fishing and fly tying today. He digs out all of the best fly fishing tips and tricks to help you understand how to choose the right gear, find fish, present the fly, discover new patterns and much more. Find out about new rods, lines, techniques, knots, tying tools and unheard of tips along with great stories about life and the times of some of the most knowledgeable guides, shop owners, and fisherman from around the world. Season 1 covers all things steelhead fishing. Better understand topics like spey casting, nymphing vs. swinging flies, intruders, finding fish, conservation and finding new waters. Come join us for the current season and share the stories and great memories told by amazing people.

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