111 episodios

This podcast is an exploration of diversity, inclusion, and equity and how these things show up, (or don’t) in our personal and professional communities.

Weeze and Trudi are JEDI Masters, (Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion,) who fundamentally believe that we all have a responsibility to create safer spaces, center marginalized communities and just do better!

If you like what you hear join us in our That’s Not How That Works facebook group to continue the conversation!
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That's Not How That Works Louiza "Weeze" Doran

    • Sociedad y cultura

This podcast is an exploration of diversity, inclusion, and equity and how these things show up, (or don’t) in our personal and professional communities.

Weeze and Trudi are JEDI Masters, (Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion,) who fundamentally believe that we all have a responsibility to create safer spaces, center marginalized communities and just do better!

If you like what you hear join us in our That’s Not How That Works facebook group to continue the conversation!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/

Enjoy the Show!

    EP 112: At The Expense Of No One Else

    EP 112: At The Expense Of No One Else

    In this episode, we talk about Palestine. We discuss the experiences we’ve both had in the online space as we’ve spoken up about Palestinian Liberation, and the misinformation and disinformation we’ve seen. 
    We talk about Genocide and the role of government policies, imperialism, and the need to separate governments from the people. We explore the language of violence and how it becomes a tool of communication when oppressed populations are pushed to the limit.
    We also offer some recommendations for how to navigate conversations, filtering through and discerning media and news updates in realtime and more. 

    Listen to the full episode to hear: 
    - Defining Genocide and Its Realities
    - Power Dynamics of the Oppressor
    - Challenging Performative Allyship
    - Understanding True Liberation
    - Language and The Importance of Context

    Support the show on Patreon: 
    - patreon.com/nothowthatworks
    Links and Resources:
    - EP 19: From Ally To Accomplice
    - EP 110:  Collective Revolution

    - Gabor Mate on Palestine & Israel:
    - IG CLIP
    - Full Interview
     
    Follow Us:
    Louiza "Weeze" Doran:
    - www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/
    - www.accordingtoweeze.com/
    Trudi Lebron:
    - www.instagram.com/trudilebron/
    - www.trudilebron.com/
     

    • 38 min
    Ep 111: Navigating Differences and Building Relationships

    Ep 111: Navigating Differences and Building Relationships

    In this conversation, we examine the feedback we received from those who tuned in to Episode 110. From that lens, we offer you suggestions on how to navigate differences and conflict that can inevitably arise in relationships; and what to keep in mind as you are navigating. We offer you indicators of potential obstacles within creating reciprocal relationships, and tips on how to recognize if someone is even on the same page as you.
    We also discuss how undertones in language used within the feedback we received carry connotations and characterizations related to identities we hold (read more about that in Weeze’s Substack linked below).
    Listen to the full episode to hear:
    - The Differences Between Intellectual Debate and Values Mismatch
    - Holding Space for Conflict in Relationships 
    - Practicing Restoration and Redemption
    - Conflict is not always rupture 
    - Life having no trigger warnings
     
    Links and Resources:
    - We are more than intimidating - Weeze’s Substack Piece
    - The Coaches Forum, Hartford, CT
    - Reclaiming Redemption Culture
    - Unpacking the Concept of Safe Space
    P.s. Join us in Hartford for a special That’s Not How That Works Salon at the Coaches Forum!!!

    • 1h 2 min
    Ep 110: A Silent Depression and A Collective Revolution

    Ep 110: A Silent Depression and A Collective Revolution

    On this episode, we explore the concept of radical change and long-term strategies for social and political transformation, centered on economic shifts geared towards an equitable and communal future. We dissect revolutionary movements, and dream up (in real time) what bringing about change would look like and require of us on an individual and collective basis while centering the most marginalized in our society.
    We explore the current societal Silent Depression that many are talking about on social media and how it ties into our work, what is so, and how it impacts access to basic needs, and the issues it creates within communities already navigating hardship.

    Also, note, like Vida shares at the top of this episode, peep it all the way through to get the fullness of the conversation. Trudi and Weeze engage in very real debate within this episode, and we’d love for it to be an offering to your journey of learning to engage with differing opinions in reciprocal, healthy and love centered ways.
    Listen to the full episode to hear:
    - The Concept of Radical Change and Cultivating long-term strategies for Social and Political Transformation
    - The Uses and Impacts of Generational Ideological Indoctrination within Privileged Communities and What We Can learn from this Strategy
    - Practical Challenges and the Constraints of Real-World Change
    - Ownership and Agency within the Housing Market
    - Political Sabotage of Transformative Movements
    - The Importance of Challenging the Dominant Success Metric that revolves around Financial Wealth




    Support the show on Patreon:
    http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks
     
    Learn more about Trudi Lebron:
    Website: www.trudilebron.com/
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/
     
    Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran:
    Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/
     

    • 1h 19 min
    Ep 109: Reclaiming Redemption Culture

    Ep 109: Reclaiming Redemption Culture

    In this latest episode, we delve deeper into the topics we explored in our previous discussion, where we analyzed Lizzo's lawsuit as a revealing case study on cognitive bias, personal agency, and the intricacies of celebrity culture. Our focus shifts to envisioning alternative resolutions for grievances through the lens of equity and liberation, and one compelling avenue we explore is the concept of redemption culture.
    Join us as we unravel the origins of redemption culture, tracing its evolution from a community centered practice to its harmful co-opting and weaponization. We navigate the complexities of how to reclaim and embody redemptive interpersonal relationships, both within business and our personal lives. Throughout the episode, we offer practical insights to help you engage with the discourse surrounding what's often termed as cancel culture.
     
    Key Themes Explored:
    Distinguishing Accountability and Redemption Culture from Cancel Culture The Appropriation of Indigenous Practices Cancel Culture as an Evasion of Responsibility Unveiling the Underlying Goals of Cancel Culture, Both Implicit and Explicit The Roots and Evolution of Woke Dissecting the Vilification of Equity, Social Justice, and Racial Justice Movements Exploring the Dynamics of Restorative Justice in Personal Relationships Unpacking the Ecology, Traditions, and Motivations of Cancel Culture  
    Support the show on Patreon:
    http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks
    Learn more about Trudi Lebron:
    Website: www.trudilebron.com/
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/
    Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran:
    Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/
     
     

    • 1h 5 min
    Ep 108: Cognitive Bias, Agency and Celebrity

    Ep 108: Cognitive Bias, Agency and Celebrity

    In this conversation, we delve into the complexities surrounding Lizzo's status as a celebrity, influencer, and the blurred lines between the two. We examine the cognitive biases and reactions that arise when individuals are both fans and critics of influential figures like Lizzo. The discussion navigates through the challenges of holding celebrities to varying standards, especially when personal affinity is involved. We explore the tendency to excuse or rationalize the actions of public figures, and how this behavior can affect the perception of their potential wrongdoings. We offer insights into the cognitive biases that lead to character attacks on accusers and the impact of intersectionality in shaping public responses to allegations. As we dissect the Lizzo lawsuit, we raise questions about workplace culture, social norms, and the dynamic between personal beliefs and collective expectations. 
    Support the show on Patreon:
    http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks
    Links and Resources:
     Ep. 66: When breaking social contracts break the internet: 
    https://pod.link/1358150402/episode/03cf12f240a8d3a314bb56983c0a48ee
    The Forum With Trudi:
    http://equitycenteredcoaching.com/forum
    PYP With Weeze:
    https://www.accordingtoweeze.com/pyp2
    Learn more about Trudi Lebron:
    Website: www.trudilebron.com/
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/
    Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran:
    Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/
    Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/
     

    • 48 min
    Ep 107: Culture vs Cultural Appropriation

    Ep 107: Culture vs Cultural Appropriation

    People of all identities connect through shared culture, whether it’s language, region, or a subculture like hip hop. So who gets to decide what culture you have access to and can claim as yours? What makes an expression of culture “authentic?” We’re digging into culture versus cultural appropriation, the difference between culture and race, the impact of socio-cultural environment on expression, and why critiques and call-outs aren’t always helpful or necessary. Listen to the full episode to hear: Make It Make Sense: Why are we one-upping each other about wildfires? The difference between caricaturizing Black womanhood and expressing your natural tone, cadence, and vernacular How race and culture all too often get conflated How callouts without context reinforce the notion of racial monoliths How enforcing and upholding racial stereotypes is a product of white supremacy culture Who actually gets to call out cultural appropriation and whether a cultural representation is authentic or performative Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworks Links and Resources: Nina Lin on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@n.nina666 Madonna Might Be An Appropriator…But You Don’t Have to Be: https://pod.link/1358150402/episode/be1bfa8a2cb2944b9296335a49787156 Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: www.trudilebron.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran: Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

    • 44 min

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