94 episodes

Leadermorphosis is a podcast exploring the emerging world of self-managing teams and progressive organisations. Hosted by Lisa Gill, who was named on the Thinkers50 Radar 2020 list, each episode features a guest thought leader or practitioner offering a unique perspective on new and innovative ways of working.

"Turning self-managed teams from a good idea into reality is a big challenge and Lisa Gill is leading the way in making it happen.”
– Thinkers50

Leadermorphosis is powered by Tuff Leadership Training, a team of consultants and coaches who specialise in transformational leadership training, shifting working climates and supporting organisations to become self-managing.

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Leadermorphosis is a podcast exploring the emerging world of self-managing teams and progressive organisations. Hosted by Lisa Gill, who was named on the Thinkers50 Radar 2020 list, each episode features a guest thought leader or practitioner offering a unique perspective on new and innovative ways of working.

"Turning self-managed teams from a good idea into reality is a big challenge and Lisa Gill is leading the way in making it happen.”
– Thinkers50

Leadermorphosis is powered by Tuff Leadership Training, a team of consultants and coaches who specialise in transformational leadership training, shifting working climates and supporting organisations to become self-managing.

    Ep. 94 Etienne Salborn and Tonny Wamboga on SINA, self-organisation and ‘freesponsibility’

    Ep. 94 Etienne Salborn and Tonny Wamboga on SINA, self-organisation and ‘freesponsibility’

    SINA (Social Innovation Academy) is a network of social enterprise incubators in Uganda and neighbouring countries with a mission of supporting marginalised young people to create their own solutions to social problems in their communities.There are currently more than 10 SINA communities which have catalysed 70+ social enterprises and more than 500 jobs. The goal is to create a global movement of 1,000 SINAs and 100,000 social enterprises by 2035.
    Etienne Salborn, founder, and Tonny Wamboga, Operations Lead, talk to me about SINA’s model in which self-organisation plays a central role. How do scholars take on key roles? What is the ‘confusion stage’? What are common misconceptions of self-organisation? What are the specific cultural challenges of learning self-organisation in Uganda? We talk about these questions and more in our conversation.
    Resources:
    SINA’s website: https://www.socialinnovationacademy.org/
    More about the SINA framework
    A case study about SINA (non-academic)
    An academic master thesis on the agency aspect of scholars in SINA
    Masters of Social Change, a SINA documentary about refugee activists and social entrepreneurs
    Etienne on the Out of the Clouds podcast talking about the SINA founding story and the model
     

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    Ep. 93 Tirzah Enumah and Mike Arauz from August Public Inc. on psychological safety, equity and inclusion

    Ep. 93 Tirzah Enumah and Mike Arauz from August Public Inc. on psychological safety, equity and inclusion

    In this episode we talk all about psychological safety – the misconceptions, what it actually means in practice, what we can learn about it through an equity lens, and how we can design organisational structures that support it (like decision-making protocols).
    We also talk about how August does onboarding and creates an adult learning environment through feedback, peer reviews and the role of a ‘Development Advocate’, plus how they relate to the ‘new ways of working’ movement right now.
    Tirzah and Mike are teammates at August Public Inc., an organisation and leadership development and change management firm. Tirzah leads August's Equity & Inclusion practice and Mike is a Founding Partner.
    Resources:
    Download the August white paper ‘Looking at Psychological Safety Through an Equity Lens’
    Learn more about August and their other insights via their website
    Related Leadermorphosis podcast episodes:
    Ep. 45 with Prof. Amy Edmondson
    Ep. 41 with Michael Y. Lee about the interpersonal risks research (safe spaces and interaction scripts)
    Michael Y. Lee’s research paper ‘Fostering Positive Relational Dynamics in Teams: The Power of Spaces and Interaction Scripts’ (Academy of Management Journal, 2020)
    Book: ‘Confronting our Freedom: Leading a Culture of Chosen Accountability and Belonging’ by Peter Block and Peter Koestenbaum
     

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    Ep. 92 Miki Kashtan and Emma Quayle from NGL on the capacity lens as a path to reinvent ourselves and our organisations

    Ep. 92 Miki Kashtan and Emma Quayle from NGL on the capacity lens as a path to reinvent ourselves and our organisations

    Miki is the seed founder and Emma a founding member of the Nonviolent Global Liberation community (NGL), which runs entirely as a gift economy. They and NGL as a whole are knee-deep in visionary experimentation about what it would take to realign humanity with life through online and community living experiments.
    Even without bosses we can still struggle to embody new ways of being together because of our internalised systems of patriarchal conditioning and capitalist thinking. The capacity lens gives us a way to examine this and make more conscious choices together. As Miki puts it, “Everyone who gets into it falls in love with it, because it moves us from rigidity to flexibility, from predictability to emergence, from coercion to willingness, from judgement to tenderness. Who wouldn't want that?” 
    An incredibly valuable episode if you are wrestling with topics like fairness, how to distribute tasks and roles, leadership in a bossless environment, how to avoid burnout or how to deal with overwhelm in the face of huge societal challenges.
    Resources:
    Nonviolent Global Liberation website
    Miki and NGL’s learning packet called ‘Resource flow systems: from incentive to willingness’ 
    Link to capacity lens course (access to video recordings only)
    Related Leadermorphosis podcast episodes:
    Ep. 37 with Miki Kashtan on the three shifts

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    Ep. 91 Miquel, Blanca and Pau from Deerns Spain on becoming a self-managing engineering company

    Ep. 91 Miquel, Blanca and Pau from Deerns Spain on becoming a self-managing engineering company

    Deerns Spain, a team of around 60 engineers, has been on a transformation journey since March 2020. Inspired by K2K Emocionando, they now work without managers which means that everyone is “creating our company all the time”. I talked to Miquel Castellvi (General Coordinator), Blanca Capdevila (People & Culture) and Pau Riera (Commitment Coordinator) who shared stories about how they changed their organisational structure, their self-managing salary process, giving feedback and dealing with conflicts, and the role of the Values and Culture team.
    Resources:
    Deerns Spain website
    Article in El Pais about Deerns Spain and other ‘teal’ organisations in Spain
    Miquel and Blanca on the Autogestión con Pancho Mora podcast (in Spanish)
    Related Leadermorphosis podcast episodes:
    Ep. 55 with Frederic Laloux
    Ep. 53 with Jabi and Dunia from K2K Emocionando
    Ep. 78 with Sofia and Luís from Mindera
     

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    Ep. 90 adrienne maree brown on Emergent Strategy and being in right relationship with change

    Ep. 90 adrienne maree brown on Emergent Strategy and being in right relationship with change

    I'm thrilled to have adrienne maree brown on the podcast, someone who 'grows ideas in public' through her writing, her podcasts and her music. Ideas like Emergent Strategy, Pleasure Activism, Radical Imagination and Transformative Justice.
    We talk about what it means to be in right relationship with change, how to be comfortable with the uncomfortable, sustainable relationships, Pleasure Activism, three thoughts about leadership, what adrienne would do if she was mayor of a large city, and finally some of her favourite practices at the moment.
    Resources:
    adrienne’s website where you can find links to her writing and podcasts
    Audre Lorde’s essay ‘Uses of the Erotic: The Erotic as Power’
    Maurice Mitchell’s article ‘Building Resilient Organizations: Toward Joy and Durable Power During a Crisis’
    The Embodiment institute 
    Black Organizing for Leadership and Dignity 
    The Chani app
    Related podcast episodes:
    Ep. 37 with Miki Kashtan
     

    • 52 min
    Ep. 89 Ted Rau on parallels between Relationship Anarchy and self-management

    Ep. 89 Ted Rau on parallels between Relationship Anarchy and self-management

    What can the realm of self-management and new ways of working learn from the realm of polyamory, Relationship Anarchy and open relationships? And how can practices in self-organising work teams help us improve our personal relationships?
    Ted Rau is the co-founder of Sociocracy for All and author of books like ‘Who Decides Who Decides?’ and ‘Many Voices One Song’. In his personal life, he has been in monogamous relationships and, for the last seven years, in open relationships. We explore the parallels across personal and professional relationships, like what it means to ‘be in choice’, consent decision-making as a mindset more than a process, holding multiple roles, and agreement-making.
    Resources:
    The link to buy Ted’s books
    The HBR article I mention, ‘The Little Things that Affect Our Work Relationships’
    Alanna Irving’s blog about Relationship Retrospectives
    Miki Kashtan’s blog about flow, decision-making and conflict 
    Relationship Anarchy Smorgasbord (wouldn’t it be fun to have an equivalent smorgasbord for our work relationships?)
    Related Leadermorphosis episodes:
    Ep. 27 with Ted Rau
    Ep. 35 with Alanna Irving
     

    • 58 min

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