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The Accounting Podcast (formerly the Cloud Accounting Podcast) is the world's #1 accounting, bookkeeping, and tax podcast! Join us weekly for a roundup of accounting news, analysis, and interviews. Plus, earn free NASBA-approved CPE credits for listening with the Earmark app. Learn more at https://earmarkcpe.com.

The Accounting Podcast Blake Oliver & David Leary

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The Accounting Podcast (formerly the Cloud Accounting Podcast) is the world's #1 accounting, bookkeeping, and tax podcast! Join us weekly for a roundup of accounting news, analysis, and interviews. Plus, earn free NASBA-approved CPE credits for listening with the Earmark app. Learn more at https://earmarkcpe.com.

    Finally! A Tax Bill That Adds Up

    Finally! A Tax Bill That Adds Up

    Blake and David examine the latest tax legislation traveling through Congress, including a new bill requiring the IRS to provide detailed explanations for math errors on tax returns. They also discuss the IRS's new direct file program, the banning of non-compete agreements, and the coolest profession around (spoiler alert: it's not accounting). Lastly, they touch on the concerning data breach at BerryDunn and the AICPA's efforts to rebrand the CPA to attract more young people to the field.

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    Chapters(02:40) - New proposed IRS Math Act

    (05:42) - IRS wraps first season with free file program

    (09:44) - "The Magician" tax preparer arrested for $100 million tax fraud

    (15:11) - The future of social security

    (19:01) - Sam Bankman-Fried makes a deal in civil suit

    (20:34) - FTC rules noncompetes are unlawful

    (25:32) - Ryan Tax Firm challenges FTC noncompete ruling

    (28:04) - QuickBooks Live announcement upsets accountants

    (41:24) - Anonymous listener says you can work normal hours and still make money

    (44:45) - Accountant charged with embezzling $800k from CA paving firm

    (47:53) - Ryanair CEO thinks more accountants should be running airlines

    (55:39) - Accounting firm sued for data leak

    (57:36) - CPA "Coolest Profession Around)

    (01:01:49) - What is "Accounting Plus"

    (01:06:52) - NASBA offers The Accountancy Licensing Library

    (01:10:14) - Thanks for listening and remember to subscribe
     
    Show Notes
    Accountant Charged With Embezzling $800,000 From Paving Firm in California - CPA Practice Advisor            
    https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/04/25/virginia-accountant-charged-with-embezzling-800000-from-richmond-paving-firm/104508/
     
    Ryan Leads Charge Against Biden’s Ban on Noncompete Clauses - CPA Practice Advisor
    https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/04/26/ryan-leads-charge-against-bidens-ban-on-noncompete-agreements/104537/
     
    Move Over, TurboTax? IRS Considers Expanding Free Tax-Filing Program – WSJ
    https://www.wsj.com/personal-finance/taxes/irs-considers-expanding-free-tax-filing-program-8f68cc9a?st=0akqqiu2v0gjb8v
     
    Boeing Needs Another Accountant As CEO, Says Ryanair CEO – Avweb
    https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/boeing-needs-another-accountant-as-ceo-says-ryanair-ceo/
     
    Ultra-Rich Should Pay More Taxes to Save Social Security, Poll Shows - CPA Practice Advisor
    https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/04/25/ultra-rich-should-pay-more-taxes-to-save-social-security-poll-shows/104458/
     
    FTC Bans Noncompete Agreements That Restrict Job Switching – WSJ
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/ftc-bans-noncompete-clauses-that-restrict-job-switching-984d2187?st=sxhwibcr49evqxc
     
    Bronx tax preparer known as "the magician" arrested for $100 million tax fraud | ADN América
    https://adnamerica.com/en/new-york/bronx-tax-preparer-known-magician-arrested-100-million-tax-fraud
     
    With close calls mounting, the FAA will require more rest for air traffic controllers
    https://www.npr.org/2024/04/22/1246349237/close-calls-faa-air-traffic-control-fatigue
     
    New bill would force IRS to explain tax return errors | The Hill
    https://thehill.com/business/4602429-new-bill-would-force-irs-to-explain-tax-return-errors/
     
    The Accountancy Licensing Library: Your Ultimate Resource for CPA Licensure | NASBA
    https://nasba.org/blog/2024/04/01/the-accountancy-licensing-library-your-ultimate-resource-for-cpa-licensure/
     
    The cost of doing your taxes are up nearly 10% this year – Marketplace
    https://www.marketplace.org/2024/03/15/tax-preaparation-costs-up-nearly-10-percent/
    Sam Bankman-Fried agrees to help FTX investors in lawsuits against Tom Brady, Larry David
    https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/business/sam-bankman-fried-agrees-to-help-ftx-investors-in-lawsuits-against-tom-brady-larry-david/
     
    Intuit Hosting 'QuickBooks Live' We

    • 1 hr 12 min
    Maximizing Your Accounting Firm's Value with Brannon Poe

    Maximizing Your Accounting Firm's Value with Brannon Poe

    Blake Oliver sits down with Brannon Poe of Poe Group Advisors to discuss the differences between traditional and subscription-based virtual accounting firms. Brannon shares his expertise on firm valuation, revealing that factors like cash flow to owner and owner hours play a significant role in determining a firm's value. He also emphasizes the importance of pricing strategies, noting that implementing value pricing and subscription models can dramatically improve a firm's profitability and overall value. Throughout the conversation, Brannon provides valuable insights and real-world examples to help firm owners maximize their firm's value in preparation for a potential sale.
    Meet Our Guest, Brannon Poe
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    • 22 min
    Google Blames Accounting Layoffs on AI

    Google Blames Accounting Layoffs on AI

    Blake and David take a dive into Google's decision to offshore accounting jobs to Mexico and India, which Google’s CFO claims is necessary to free up resources to invest in AI. They also discuss the stagnation of CPA salaries despite a shortage of talent. The conversation touches on a variety of other topics, including the modernization of the IRS, the future of the CPA profession, and advice for young accountants looking to carve their own career paths in a rapidly changing industry.

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    Chapters(05:53) - Blake reads some tweets about hours people are working during busy season

    (10:52) - Unlimited PTO is worse for employees

    (13:22) - College degrees aren't necessary for success

    (20:24) - Florida creates retired CPA status

    (23:35) - Listener mail on the 150-hour rule and salaries

    (29:16) - Update on Boston's commercial real estate woes

    (33:48) - Why office rent prices are still so high

    (43:10) - Some encouraging IRS news

    (48:27) - Internal audit reveals 279 former IRS employees or contractors still had access to logins

    (52:12) - Offshoring can be good or bad

    (54:04) - Setting a limit on billable hours

    (55:50) - Let accounting firms decide what requirements accountants need

    (58:08) - The rise of the "remote partner"

    (01:04:00) - Wrap up and Earmark now has a web browser version
     Show Notes
    Google restructures finance team as part of AI shift, CFO tells employees in memo
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/google-restructures-finance-team-as-a-part-of-ai-shift-cfo-tells-employees-in-memo.html
     
    Josh Youngblood, EA didn’t work over 40 hours per week in tax season
    https://x.com/joshyoungblood/status/1779858374403747847?s=12
     
    Skills-Based Hiring Can Shred the Paper Ceiling | BCG
    https://www.bcg.com/capabilities/diversity-inclusion/expert-insights/skill-based-hiring-can-shred-paper-ceiling
     
    The Office Market Is in Turmoil. So Why Are Rents More Expensive? – WSJ
    https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/the-office-market-is-in-turmoil-so-why-are-rents-more-expensive-d096f961?st=9ieavh5j7ep3wcw
     
    Florida Legislature Passes Bill Creating New Retired CPA Status | Florida Institute of CPAs
    https://www.ficpa.org/publication/florida-legislature-passes-bill-creating-new-retired-cpa-status
     
    Kyle J. Bauman, CPA on X: "“Unlimited PTO” “Only 2100 Hours”
    https://twitter.com/kjb_cpa/status/1763595505928442248
     
    62% of Americans Lack a College Degree. Can They Solve the Labor Shortage?
    https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/employers-open-more-doors-to-workers-without-degrees-but-few-are-getting-in-732f1098
     
    Senior Leaders Nearly Twice as Likely To Receive AI Resources as Junior Staff | CFO
    https://www.cfo.com/news/senior-leaders-are-nearly-twice-as-likely-to-receive-ai-guidance/707230/
     
    IRS didn't remove contractors' access to sensitive information | Accounting Today
    https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/irs-didnt-remove-contractors-access-to-sensitive-information
     
    Boston mulls commercial tax hike        
    https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/boston-mulls-commercial-tax-hike-to-counter-office-market-slump
     
    IRS Commissioner Delivers End Of Tax Filing Season Message Touting Improvements
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2024/04/15/irs-commissioner-delivers-end-of-tax-filing-season-message-touting-improvements/
     
    Florida Creates New Status for Retired CPAs in the State          
    https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/04/15/florida-creates-new-status-for-retired-cpas-in-the-state/103983/
     
    Treasury cash balance jumps most in 2 years as tax payments rise
    https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/treasury-cash-balance-jumps-most-in-2-years-as-tax-payments-rise
     
    The rise of the remote accounting firm partner               
    https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/the-rise-of-the-remote-accountin

    • 1 hr 10 min
    Remote Accountants Get Paid Less

    Remote Accountants Get Paid Less

    Blake and David delve into the effects of remote work on accountant salaries and the mental health challenges faced by auditors at Big Four firms. They inspect a recent study showing lower pay for hybrid workers compared to fully remote or in-office employees. They also contemplate the future of work organization inspired by Bill Anderson, CEO of Bayer, and discuss the potential impact of AI on the accounting profession, the accuracy of AI-related surveys, and the misrepresentation of AI capabilities in recent news headlines.
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    Chapters(00:34) - Will accountants soon earn overtime pay?

    (04:57) - Listener writes in about their own audit experience at a Top-30 firm

    (08:14) - Trump's Truth Social audit update

    (14:44) - PCAOB proposed audit metrics

    (20:44) - 71% of Big 4 auditors worry about mental health

    (23:27) - Blake shares a clip from new Bayer CEO

    (33:48) - H&R Block employees prefer remote work

    (38:14) - Remote accountants get paid less

    (39:35) - Executives and managers perceive in-office workers as higher performers

    (42:06) - The four day work week is becoming more common

    (45:27) - Cody writes in about Big 4 vs industry

    (47:09) - Hannah asks about outsourcing and offshoring costs

    (49:59) - Amazon Fresh stores were using Indian employees for "just walk out" tech

    (55:22) - Shohei Ohtani's translator charged in sports gambling case

    (58:14) - Accounting Today wrongly claims accountants are saving 30 hours a week on average using AI

    (01:01:34) - Blake shares a clip from the All In podcast on the future of AI

    (01:04:48) - Is it time for a new ERP system?

    (01:07:47) - Thanks for listening and remember to subscribe
     
    Show Notes
    71% of Big 4 Auditors Worry About Mental Health | CFO             
    https://www.cfo.com/news/71-of-big-4-auditors-worry-about-mental-health/712063/
     
    Will Getting Rid of Bosses Fix the Workplace? - The Journal. - WSJ Podcasts
    https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journal/will-getting-rid-of-bosses-fix-the-workplace/fc0d31d3-2d08-441e-abd8-d77b660fe258
     
    59% of accountants use AI to save about 30 hours a week on tasks | Accounting Today
    https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/59-of-accountants-use-ai-to-save-about-30-hours-a-week-on-tasks
     
    Y Combinator wants to fund new enterprise resource planning (ERP) software"
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3-zHmOIqbI/?igsh=dTMxMDBjNGg3a2p0
     
    Ohtani translator charged with stealing millions for 19,000 bets | Accounting Today
    https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/ohtani-translator-charged-with-stealing-millions-for-19-000-bets
     
    KPMG Fined Record $25 Million in Exam-Cheating Scandal – WSJ
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/kpmg-fined-25-million-over-alleged-netherlands-exam-cheating-a4dcba2a?st=yl6xiqm8nh6gug8
     
    Botkeeper Infinite replaces outsourcing with more AI to help firms automate | Accounting Today
    https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/botkeeper-infinite-replaces-outsourcing-with-more-ai-to-help-firms-automate
     
    More Companies Adopt 4-Day Work Week - CPA Practice Advisor        
    https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/03/27/more-companies-adopt-4-day-work-week/103199/
     
    When Layoffs Happen, Remote Workers Are Hardest Hit - WSJ               
    https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/layoffs-remote-work-data-980ed59d?reflink=integratedwebview_share
     
    Does Working from Home Boost Productivity Growth? | San Francisco Fed     
    https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/publications/economic-letter/2024/january/does-working-from-home-boost-productivity-growth/
    Trump Media's Accounting Firm Has Audit Deficiency History 
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-media-accounting-firm-history-150150627.html
     
    Amazon's Just Walk Out Actually Uses 1,000 People in India
    https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actually-1-000-people-in-india-2024-4
     
    PCAOB

    • 1 hr 10 min
    Delivering Nuclear Value in Accounting

    Delivering Nuclear Value in Accounting

    Joe Woodard joins Blake and David to examine how accountants and bookkeepers can increase the value of their services in the eyes of their clients. Joe introduces the Cobb value curve, illustrating how differentiation and relative value impact pricing. He emphasizes the importance of offering unique, high-value services like controllership and financial planning to stand out from commoditized offerings and command premium prices.
    Meet Our Guest, Joe Woodard
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quickbooksadvisorTwitter: https://twitter.com/joewoodard

    Learn more about Woodard
    Website: http://www.woodard.com
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    • 29 min
    Get Rich Doing Bad Audits

    Get Rich Doing Bad Audits

    Blake and David dive into the concerning trend of small CPA firms conducting shoddy audits of large companies and SPACs, raking in big fees while facing minimal consequences for deficient work. They also discuss the latest accounting app funding news, the power of AI for crafting persuasive arguments, and the American Institute of CPAs' puzzling resistance to changes in CPA licensure requirements and touch on the growing importance of client accounting services for public accounting firms.

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    Chapters(00:38) - Blake is back from a conference in Atlanta

    (03:12) - The truth behind Trump's Truth Social SPAC audit

    (18:41) - AI startup Fieldguide secures $30 million in Series B funding

    (21:57) - FundGuard secures $100 million in Series C funding round

    (23:42) - BotKeeper launches BotKeeper Infinite

    (29:29) - Scientists find that AI is more persuasive than humans at changing people's opinions

    (37:41) - Formula 1 team using Excel to track car parts

    (39:34) - CAS is the fastest-growing service in Accounting Today's annual survey

    (41:34) - The AICPA warns about losing the 150-hour rule

    (48:46) - Send us an email and remember you can earn FREE CPE for listening to this podcast!
     
    Show Notes
    Fieldguide Raises $30 Million to Combat CPA Shortage With AI
    https://www.pymnts.com/news/investment-tracker/2024/fieldguide-raises-30-million-to-combat-cpa-shortage-with-ai/
    AI accounting startup raises $100M
    https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/ai-accounting-startup-fundguard-raises-100m-in-new-funds
    On the Conversational Persuasiveness of Large Language Models: A Randomized Controlled Trial (PDF) 
    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2403.14380.pdf?utm_source=www.therundown.ai&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nvidia-s-new-ai-chip-competitor
     
    The year CAS took over
    https://www.accountingtoday.com/opinion/the-year-cas-took-over-accounting
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    • 52 min

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