Relevant Experience Jasmine Jackson-Irwin & Gillian Jakob Kieser

Negotiation is hard and there’s so much that most of us were never taught as we headed into our careers. When is the right (or wrong!) time to negotiate your salary? How do you come back from underestimating your financial worth? And why is it so damn hard to talk about money in the first place?! Gillian and Jasmine are joined by Nadia De Ala to talk through all of this and more.
Nadia is a leadership and negotiation coach for women of color in tech, and has supported diverse leaders at companies like Google, Expedia and Uber. Through 1-on-1 coaching, group coaching, and workshops, she helps her clients level up their relationships, influence, and money. Her mission is to help close the leadership and wage gap in tech, one badass WOC leader at a time. Nadia can be found on Instagram, @nadiadeala, or on her website, nadiadeala.com.
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As The Clash once sang, “Should I stay or should I go now?” Jasmine and Gillian talk through the peaks of starting that coveted new role, all the way to the valleys of uncovering whether or not it’s time to make your next move. We get real about how you can stay on top of the job market, get the most out of where you’re at now, and how to identify the champions you’ll need when it’s time to pivot. Plus, a great Mail Bag question on mitigating jealousy in workplace friendships.
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Today the Relex team goes way, way back to the start of it all and talks early stage career development. We’re joined by design industry veteran, Annie Wang, who has some solid advice for folks early on in their professional journey on how to get the most out of even the least enjoyable jobs. And of course: some more practical advice on do’s and don’ts of your first few years in the workforce.
Mentions from this episode:
Peter Drucker’s 'Managing Oneself' Annie’s amazing phone background of ‘reality-based leadership’ questions  ---
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You asked for tactical advice, and we’ve got it! Jasmine and Gillian talk through the steps they take to get unstuck during creative flow, start projects that seem impossible, as well as their favorite freakishly useful mind tricks for success. After learning how to talk yourself up, and the surprising reasons to sometimes talk yourself down, get ready to be firing on all cylinders on your next big project.
Mentions from this episode:
Gretchen Rubin’s book 'Better Than Before' America’s favorite Student Body President, Tracy Flick. (Bonus advice from her.) ---
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This episode has it all: women in linen, the smoke and mirrors of Instagram, and an overdue tax bill totaling $40,000. Eleanor Gerber-Siff joins us to talk about how she developed a successful creative business, and how owning her biggest mistakes formed the foundation of her authentic leadership style. If you've ever wanted to develop your leadership abilities without feeling like a faker, this episode is for you.
Eleanor is the founder of The Floral CEO, a coaching community for women floral designers who want to power up their business skills. She also owns Wallflower Design, a boutique floral design studio in San Francisco, CA. Find Eleanor on social media @wallflower.design and learn more about her business(es) here.
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Today’s episode kicks off Part 1 of a ?-part series on bodies in the workplace. Fair warning, this show is a bit of a doozie. Jasmine and Gillian dig into a lot: the ways our bodies are on view (for better or worse) at work, the Catch-22 of dress codes and expectations of appearance, plus how our bodies move through the physical spaces in which we work. Listen in to get inspired by how you can help make your workplace a body neutral zone.
CW: diet talk, fatshaming, and brief mention of disordered eating/ED recovery.  
Here are some additional resources on the topics covered in today’s episode if you are interested in learning more.
Health At Every Size California becomes first state to ban discrimination based on one’s natural hair The Tyranny of Workplace Food-Shamers Fatphobia in the workplace can be career limiting and psychologically harmful Why I’m Trading Body Positivity for Fat Acceptance 10 'no' substitutes ---
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