In November of 2015, Davey Blackburn’s wife Amanda was killed in a home invasion, along with their unborn child. As the lead pastor of Resonate Church in Indianapolis and the father of his young son Weston, Davey was forced to not only live through this tragedy, but learn to lead through the pain as well. Our own pain may or may not look like Davey’s, but we all go through pain nonetheless. However, we believe that God works all things together for good, and in Christ, Nothing Is Wasted. This podcast seeks to help you in your pain by bringing you conversations between Davey and special guests designed to help you live, learn, and lead through pain.
Episode 133 - Joel Manby
American culture often makes the mistake of thinking success lies in what we do. We think a thriving life is one in which we accomplish great things, earn the most money, and climb our way to the top of whatever ladder we think we’re on. Joel Manby learned the hard way that this picture of life isn’t quite accurate. Having been at the top of multiple huge companies, Joel was “doing” everything right. His life was on track according to all the wrong metrics, and when failures came for him, it became clear that his dream life wasn’t all there was. Joel sits down with Davey to share what he’s learned on the other side of professional and personal failures and how it made him realize what really matters.
Episode 132 - Ashlee Eiland
If we’re honest, the church hasn’t always done a great job of elevating diverse voices. Women, people of color, and other marginalized groups often find themselves on the outskirts of our faith communities, with no one they can learn from who shares their life experiences. This is a problem that Ashlee Eiland knows well. Both as a black woman and as a pastor and author, Ashlee has felt this pain, and she wants to work to help mend it. In a continuation of our ongoing conversations about racial reconciliation, Ashlee sits down with Aubrey to talk about her experiences and the radical kindness that God has called each of us to display in this pivotal moment in history.
Episode 131 - Jason Sautel
For most of us, life-altering tragedies are something we experience in rare instances. For a firefighter in a big city, they’re everyday occurrences. Working as a first responder in the Oakland Fire Department, Jason Sautel saw suffering, tragedy, and death constantly. Jason looked to his job to make something of his life and to redeem his troubled childhood, but without any hope to draw from, he eventually ran dry himself. The misery he saw on a daily basis was too much for Jason, and at his lowest moment, he planned to take his own life. Instead, Jason found Jesus and learned that there was hope even in the worst circumstances.
In the wake of the fires currently raging in California and other parts of the western US, it's perhaps clearer than ever just how much of a challenge jobs like Jason's are. We depend on people like Jason for our safety, but that comes at a tremendous cost to these brave men and women. Jason knows what it feels like to walk through literal fires to save a life, and what that can do to a person, but he also knows a source of hope that makes that can transform that pain into purpose. Jason sits down with Davey to share a bit of his story and how he’s made it his mission to help others see God in the midst of their trials.
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Episode 130 - Elizabeth Laing Thompson
We’ve probably all heard the sermons about not trusting our emotions. “We should preach to our feelings and not let them lead us,” they say. After all, the heart is deceitful above all things, right? While that may be true, it doesn’t mean we should ignore our emotions or treat them as excess baggage. That’s something that Elizabeth Laing Thompson knows very well. Elizabeth advocates for us to recognize that God made us as emotional beings, and our feelings are not some problem for us to push aside or fight against. Elizabeth sits down with Davey to share some of her story of how she’s come to grips with her own feelings and how we can learn to have a healthy relationship with our own emotions.
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Episode 129 - Os Hillman
Failure is not something any of us want. It is consistently ranked as one of the most common fears, but it is also a fact of life. None of us make it through with a perfect record. That’s something that Os Hillman learned the hard way. After not one but two failed marriages and going from thriving in business to being broke, Os had been through failure and adversity on a tremendous scale. What Os learned is that God was in those trials, and that are lessons to be learned from all of our failures if we are willing to listen. Os sits down with Davey to share a bit of his story and the lessons he’s learned the hard way on his journey.
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Episode 128 - Sheila Wise Rowe
For some of us, the idea of racial trauma is entirely theoretical. We maybe understand it as a thing of the past from the limited history we were taught, or we turn on the TV and see reports of it happening to someone else. Someone who doesn’t look like us. But we don’t all have that luxury, that unique privilege of experiencing racism in the third person. Sheila Wise Rowe knows this all too well. Ever since she was a child, racial trauma was a part of Sheila’s life. Now she’s made it her mission to help others heal from it. Sheila sits down with Davey for an important conversation about her story and what each of us can do in this pivotal moment in history.
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