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Unseen Leadership, hosted by Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter, explores the unseen stories that have made leaders who they are today. This is a podcast for young leaders to learn from those ahead of them by exploring the early days of their leadership, understanding the mistakes they made, and identifying the habits that shaped them. All to help you lead in the future. This podcast will be featuring guests like Carey Nieuwhof, Jamie Ivey, Clay Scroggins, Jackie Hill Perry, Levi Lusko, and many more.

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Unseen Leadership, hosted by Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter, explores the unseen stories that have made leaders who they are today. This is a podcast for young leaders to learn from those ahead of them by exploring the early days of their leadership, understanding the mistakes they made, and identifying the habits that shaped them. All to help you lead in the future. This podcast will be featuring guests like Carey Nieuwhof, Jamie Ivey, Clay Scroggins, Jackie Hill Perry, Levi Lusko, and many more.

    Unseen Leadership Episode 39: Gene Getz on Being a Lifelong Learner

    Unseen Leadership Episode 39: Gene Getz on Being a Lifelong Learner

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Gene Getz who has served as a professor at Moody Bible Institute and Dallas Theological Seminary. He launched the Fellowship Bible Church movement in 1972. And he is the author of 60 books including The Measure of a Man and the Life Essentials Study Bible.



    During their conversation, they discuss the need for mentors, not viewing yourself as a professional, and how to be a lifelong learner.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 39:

    “I spent the first 20 years teaching people how to pastor and lead a church, and I’ve spent my last 40 years learning how to do it.”



    “I always want to thank God that someone comes to listen to me preach.”



    “I don’t want to just become a professional. I want to be a pastor and a shepherd.”



    “By the time I was 50, I realized how much more I needed to learn.”



    “I’m 88 years old, and it still scares me what I don’t know. We must always be a learner. Because there is more to know than we can ever learn in a lifetime.”



    “Your greatest strength is to trust people. Your greatest weakness is to trust people you shouldn’t trust.”



    “People are honored when they are asked for wisdom.”

    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    5LQ Episode 422: Gene Getz

    Life Essentials Study Bible

    The Measure of a Man by Gene Getz

    Discipline by Grace by Jerry Bridges

    Team Sight (Style of Influence Personality Test)

    • 44 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 38: Eugene Cho on The Marathon of Leadership

    Unseen Leadership Episode 38: Eugene Cho on The Marathon of Leadership

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Eugene Cho who is the founder and former Senior Pastor of Quest Church. He is now the President-Elect of Bread for the World. He is also an author of several books including his latest Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk.

    During their conversation, they discuss the marathon of leadership, the pitfalls of building a platform for the wrong reasons, and Eugene’s journey as an entrepreneur.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 37:



    “One of the ways that you realize you are a leader isn’t just that you are leading, but that you have others following you as well.”

    “Leadership is not for the faint of heart.”

    “I believe leadership is not about perfection. It is about maturity, and one of the best ways I can define maturity is awareness.”

    “Are we more in love with the idea of changing the world than actually changing the world? ”

    “When we are talking about changing the world, it is not one, single viral moment. It is about living a trajectory of faithful obedience.”

    “Personal growth is always greater than platform growth.”

    “If you are not working on character when no one is looking, when you build an audience and people look at you, they will see no depth and substance.”

    “We need to be healthy spiritual beings in order to be healthy spiritual leaders.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Emotionally Healthy Leader by Pete Scazzero

    Overrated by Eugene Cho

    Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk by Eugene Cho

    A Long Obedience in the Same Direction by Eugene Peterson

    Christ Plays in 10,000 Places by Eugene Peterson

    Eat This Book by Eugene Peterson

    The Contemplative Pastor by Eugene Peterson













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 50 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 37: Derwin Gray on Focusing on Discipleship More Than Leadership

    Unseen Leadership Episode 37: Derwin Gray on Focusing on Discipleship More Than Leadership

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Derwin Gray who is a former NFL football player and the founding and lead pastor of Transformation Church in South Carolina. He is also an author of many books, including his latest The Good Life.

    During their conversation, they discuss how to learn from failure, how to focus on discipleship more than leadership, and how to find true happiness in Christ.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 37:



    “Typically where leaders fail is that we delegate tasks instead of delegating responsibility.”

    “The best teacher is failure.”

    “I thought pastoring was just getting up and preaching, but it is not. That is about 5% of what I do.”

    “If you don’t deal with conflict on the front end and it gets toxic, on the back end it’ll be even more expensive and many more people will be hurt.”

    “Leaders must step into conflict to bring about resolution, to bring about restoration, and to bring about reconciliation.”

    “The greater we understand the cross and Jesus making peace, the greater that we can be peacemakers.”

    “In the New Testament, the word leadership is used 3 times and the word disciple is used 269 times. Why don’t we talk about discipleship more?”

    “Leadership and discipleship are two sides of the same coin. However, you can be a leader without a disciple, but every disciple is called to be a leader.”

    “Oftentimes we are ambitious for power and status instead of being ambitious for Jesus.”

    “Happiness is not about what you are getting. Happiness about who you are becoming.”“Wouldn’t it be sad to live a life of effective ministry and be broken hearted at the end of it.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    The Good Life by Derwin Gray

    The Evangelism Linebacker

    Designed to Lead by Eric Geiger and Kevin Peck

    On Pastoring by H.B. Charles Jr.

    Conformed to His Image by Ken Boa

    Paul by N.T. Wright













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 40 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 36: Steve Green on Seeing Business as Ministry

    Unseen Leadership Episode 36: Steve Green on Seeing Business as Ministry

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy is joined by Steve Green who is the President of Hobby Lobby, founder of the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC, and author of many books including his latest This Beautiful Book which just recently released.

    During their conversation, they discuss how to build a strong organization, how to lead relationally, and how to see your business as a ministry.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 36:



    “You lose teaching opportunities when you just do the job yourself.”

    “No one learns more than the teacher.”

    “My job is making sure I have good people and that I’m building a strong organization.”

    “As a leader, you don’t always have to be the expert in the room.”

    “My nature is more of the doer and I can miss out on relational moments.”

    “It really became clear to me that not only was I doing ministry at church but the business was a direct ministry.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Museum of the Bible

    This Beautiful Book by Steve Green

    Good to Great by Jim Collins

    Saving My Assassin by Virginia Prodan













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 32 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 35: Ken Costa on Understanding Your Calling

    Unseen Leadership Episode 35: Ken Costa on Understanding Your Calling

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Ken Costa who is a London-based, internationally renowned banker, author and speaker. He has been the chairman of some of the world’s largest investment banks, advisor to some of the most powerful people in the world, and is a committed Christian who believes Jesus is the hope of the world.

    During their conversation, they discuss how to view your work, how to understand your calling, and slow down and listen to God.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 35:



    “I came to realize God was really interested in what I did throughout the week, not just what I did on Sundays.”

    “You can’t govern the timing of God.”

    “If you are trying to reach the top and don’t feel called by God to do it, you are going to burn out.”

    “The great heritage of Christians is that we know our why.”

    “With COVID-19, it is as if God has said to the world, stop. Reboot, rewire, and rethink.”

    “You can’t just Google your why and your calling. It is a profound psychological process. We have to cut through the noise.”

    “The door that God opens, no one can close. And the doors that God closes, no one can open.”

    “For this generation, we live in a spectrum between broadband and burnout. And at the moment, we were on the verge of people veering toward burnout.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    God at Work by Ken Costa

    Know Your Why by Ken Costa

    Start with Why by Simon Sinek

    Atomic Habits by James Clear













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 37 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 34: Daniel Im on Navigating Transitions

    Unseen Leadership Episode 34: Daniel Im on Navigating Transitions

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Daniel Im who is the Senior Associate Pastor at Beulah Alliance Church, speaker, and author of a few books including his latest You Are What You Do.

    During their conversation, they discuss navigating transitions, discerning God’s call on your life, and staying focused on the little things.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 34:



    “We just wanted to get plugged in and be the type of volunteer I would have looked for while on staff at a church.”

    “When God is moving you, it is like he is a good gardener.”

    “I loved the number 2 role and the systems side of things.”

    “We need to be faithful and follow God’s ways by cultivating spiritual practices and being in community.”

    “Spiritual growth is a lot like sleeping. You can’t cause yourself to sleep, but you can create the conditions in which it will come.” - Richard Foster

    “Don’t assume every opportunity is from God. It could be a distraction.”

    “Instead of trying to do great things for God. Let’s just do things for a great God.”

    “Be faithful with the little things and the big things will come.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    You Are What You Do by Daniel Im

    The Pastor: A Memoir by Eugene Peterson

    Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership by Ruth Haley Barton

    Soul Keeping by John Ortberg













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 50 min

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