I got another van interview for you! This one is coming from Chicago, IL. Jeff Berman of Divided Heaven is sitting next to me in the Avenues tour van, Van Burgandy. We had a good talk about the old days and all the good things to come. Jeff is really a great dude and I’m super pumped I finally got him on the podcast. Now don't let the name confuse you, Divided Heaven is no holy band sent here to do the Lord's work or anything like that. Although I will admit their newest record, Cold War, really helped out while I was recovering in Texas in 2018. I love this band and love this dude. Can’t wait to have him on the show again! Welcome to The Underground.