The global effort of the Hygiene & infection prevention network links clinical expertise and resources, aiding hygiene improvement efforts in your healthcare communities. The podcast provides cutting-edge research conducted with integrity as a way to reduce infections worldwide.
Rosie Bartel on her experience as a Healthcare-Associated Infection survivor (United States)
On the podcast is Rosie Bartel.
Rosie Bartel is a widow, a mother, and a grandmother. In this episode, she shares her personal story.
In 2009, Rosie underwent a total knee replacement that developed into an MRSA staph infection. The Healthcare-Associated Infection led to 55 surgeries, 200+ hospitalizations, and 100 blood transfusions. She has had sepsis and septic shock 12 times. Finally, she underwent a right leg amputation above the knee, which later developed into a total hip amputation with part of the pelvic bone removed.
Rosie uses her stories to help and educate both patients, relatives, and healthcare professionals.
"I don't think they realize how much one little infection can devastate a person forever."
On being a patient with an HAI
"It's much easier to sit in a chair and tell somebody about hand hygiene than to be laying under those white sheets where you don't have any control over your life."
"I can't blame anybody for it, but let's look at all the ways that could fix the world and make it better for patients and safer for patients every single day."
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Rosie's Story: A Story of Faith, Hope, and Survival:
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Cindie Maagaard on narrative medicine to improve clinical outcomes (Denmark)
On the podcast is Cindie Maagaard
Today's guest is Dr. Cindie Maagaard, an associate professor at the Department of Language and Communication at the University of Southern Denmark. She holds a Ph.D. in postmodern English literature. Since 2010, her passion for narratives has turned to investigate organizational communication. Since 2016 her research has increasingly focused on how narratives are used in contexts of health and medicine to help health professionals and patients understand and communicate about illness - and she is one of the leading experts in the field.
Cindie has published research articles and book chapters on narrative medicine and is the co-editor of a brand new anthology of Danish and international literature written by and about patients and doctors.
On narrative medicine
A starting point for narrative medicine is that any medical perspective includes a patient's life experiences and relationships, worries, hopes, desires, and more. These perspectives are integrated into a medical perspective.
On communicating more empathetically through narratives
Give the patient time in the beginning to talk, maybe beginning with a question. Tell me what I need to know about your situation and why you are here? And give the patient time to unfold that.
Practice attention by reading.
Recommendations from Cindie
The Principles and Practice of Narrative MedicineThe Wounded StorytellerIllness as Metaphor and AIDS and its Metaphors
Nanja Holland Hansen on compassion making the difference (Denmark)
On the podcast is Nanja Holland Hansen.
Nanja is a psychologist and one of the leading compassion experts in Denmark.
She has worked at Stanford University and Copenhagen University Hospital, Rigshospitalet. She is a senior instructor at the Compassion Institute in California and the Co-developer of the Compassion Training Certification Program for professionals at Aarhus University. Nanja has also published several books and research articles about compassion and mental health.
"Compassion takes away the heaviness. It doesn't mean that there is less suffering. It's just how you meet that suffering. And that makes all the difference.
On bringing back kindness
"It's these everyday little moments where we can bring some kindness and care."
"There is research showing that it takes only 40 seconds to show compassion. That's all it takes."
Effect of a Compassion Cultivation Training Program for Caregivers of People With Mental Illness in DenmarkHealthcare providers perspectives on compassion training: a grounded theory studyHealthcare's compassion crisis- TEDxPenn with Stephen TrzeciakCompassion Fatigue among Healthcare, Emergency, and Community Service Workers: A Systematic Review
Hugo Sax on the strengths and limitations of human beings (Switzerland)
On the podcast is Hugo Sax.
Professor Hugo Sax is a medical doctor, board-certified in Internal Medicine and Infectious Diseases with over 20 years of experience in Infection Prevention and Control. Until 2021, he was Head of the Infection Prevention Program at the University Hospital Zurich in Switzerland.
He is currently a Research Fellow at the Department of Infectious Diseases at Bern University Hospital. He is also a board member and prev. President of Swissnoso, the Swiss National Center for Infection Prevention. He is a member of the First Challenge on Patient Safety at the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Chief Medical Border Officer at Zurich Airport.
His research focuses on human factors and systems thinking in healthcare. He also created ‘My five moments for hand hygiene,’ which has become a global standard.
He teaches Human Factors to medical students and pilots and enjoys flying vintage aerobatic aircraft himself.
On infection prevention
"Now, I think we are in infection prevention 4.0. where system integration and data science are the big things"
"You have to imagine the reality of people on the ground, and then design the intervention in a way that takes into account the context of the people"
On human beings
"It's all about realizing the strengths and weaknesses of human beings"
Seven Aghdassi on promoting novel approaches in infection prevention (Germany)
On the podcast is Seven Aghdassi.
Seven works at the Institute of Hygiene and Environmental Medicine at the recognized Charité University Hospital in Berlin. Seven has a particular interest and specialized knowledge in automated cluster detection and automated surveillance systems. He has worked with the World Health Organization to develop the Infection Prevention and Control Assessment Framework (IPACF).
Additionally, Seven recently won 3rd place in the German award for patient safety for the cluster detection system “CLAR” alongside his colleagues from Charité. He participates in the Charité Digital Clinician Scientist Program funded by the DFG, Charité, and the Berlin Institute of Health.
"The ultimate goal with the automation and digitalization should be to spend less time in front of a computer and more time doing actual patient care."
"Automated surveillance is certainly a target for optimization."
On infection control
"Good advice in life in general but specifically in healthcare and infection control is to be resilient and to see problems as not only problems but as the first step towards a solution."
Seven Aghdassi on ResearchGate
1) Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin, corporate member of Freie Universität Berlin and Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin, Institute of Hygiene and Environmental Medicine, Berlin, Germany
2) National Reference Center for Surveillance of Nosocomial Infections, Berlin, Germany
3) Berlin Institute of Health at Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin, BIH Biomedical Innovation Academy, BIH Charité Digital Clinician Scientist Program, Berlin, Germany
Pierre Parneix on progress and innovation's role in medical science (France)
On the podcast is Pierre Parneix.
Pierre, a French medical doctor, has specialized in public health and infection control since 1992. He is the president of the French Society for Hospital Hygiene and heads up the southwestern France healthcare-associated infection control center based at the Bordeaux university hospital. Pierre was also one of the members of the COVID-19 commission for France for President Macron.
Pierre focuses his work on antimicrobial resistance surveillance and prevention in hospitals and communication and intervention support in the field of healthcare-associated infection prevention.
"Infection control is medical science, so you need to have innovation and change. But sometimes people are very reluctant to change, which is why making the change is difficult."
"We need to show that innovation could help us to decrease the burden on infection but also help the professionals to do things more easily - any innovation should be helpful in some way."
On the cost of outbreaks
"It's known that outbreaks of multidrug-resistant organisms can be very expensive - we need to have progress and innovation in this area."
Compassion - a call to action
An important and very inspiring podcast serie. The episode with Nanja Holland Hansen on compassion is truly important and a must-hear for clinicians and administrators. Hopefully more focus on compassion and the benefits it brings along, will help shape a better future for patients and health care providers.
Positive infektion control
This podcast is very informative, inspiring and educational.
This podcast has been such a pleasure to listen to. It provides insight into the brilliant minds of infection control professionals in today’s changing world. Well worth 30 minutes!