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This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life.

Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

We do “adult” differently.


-About Daren and Jenn-

Jenn is a queer, Black feminist from Oakland. Daren is an introverted nerd and novelist from Anaheim.

They are boo’ed up and have been since 2002 when they bonded over a mutual love of Brian McKnight’s “Never Felt This Way”, their favorite Brandy lyrics, and nineties TV like Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and Living Single. It was a shared obsession with Black cultural icons, histories, and artistry that drew Jenn and Daren to one another even though they are actually completely different personality-wise.

Jenn and Daren have always said to themselves, “Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a show?” Well, no major networks have reached out yet. So, until that happens, you can find the them here, sharing their views on race and culture and everything in between.

They are young thirty-somethings who have been married since for over a decade. Jenn and Daren have three beautiful, brilliant, radical, snarky kids who play no games.

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This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life.

Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

We do “adult” differently.


-About Daren and Jenn-

Jenn is a queer, Black feminist from Oakland. Daren is an introverted nerd and novelist from Anaheim.

They are boo’ed up and have been since 2002 when they bonded over a mutual love of Brian McKnight’s “Never Felt This Way”, their favorite Brandy lyrics, and nineties TV like Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and Living Single. It was a shared obsession with Black cultural icons, histories, and artistry that drew Jenn and Daren to one another even though they are actually completely different personality-wise.

Jenn and Daren have always said to themselves, “Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a show?” Well, no major networks have reached out yet. So, until that happens, you can find the them here, sharing their views on race and culture and everything in between.

They are young thirty-somethings who have been married since for over a decade. Jenn and Daren have three beautiful, brilliant, radical, snarky kids who play no games.

    S6E5 - Recognizing Sexual Assault Awareness Month

    S6E5 - Recognizing Sexual Assault Awareness Month

    In this episode, Jenn and Daren highlight Sexual Assault and Prevention Month. In the first segment, Jenn shares how sexual assault is an unavoidable part of her Black Politics course, and Daren shares his experience watching the “Quiet On Set” documentary that exposes the mistreatment and abuse of child actors at Nickelodeon during the 1990’s.

    In the second segment, Jenn and Daren dive deeper into this topic, explaining what constitutes sexual assault or harrassment. Daren shares troubling statistics about sexual assault and the pair talk about how the state and government are not setup to appropriately support and protect the most vulnerable of us. And it is no surprise when the current 2 candidates for U.S. President are known abusers. In the end, we all have a responsibility to hold each other accountable for abusing or harassing behavior.

    In the third segment, Jenn and Daren discuss their personal experiences with sexual assault and harrassment. For Daren, he shared how this is a continual problem he faces as an asexual man, and Jenn shares how her most recent relationship ended due to her partner's friend assaulting her and her partner not properly protecting them or addressing the issue.

    If you or someone you know experienced sexual assault and is seeking resources, contact the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 1-800-656-HOPE (4673) or rainn.org.

    Reference Material:
    * National Sexual Violence Resource Center (NSVRC) - https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics
    * Fast Facts: Preventing Sexual Violence - ttps://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfact.html
    * The Not Rape Epidemic (Latoya Peterson) - https://deadwildroses.com/2014/03/19/the-not-rape-epidemic-latoya-peterson/
    Hood Feminism: Notes from the Women That a Movement Forgot Hardcover (Mikki Kendall) - https://amzn.to/4cTXd5b

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    Podcast Summary:
    This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
    Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

    • 44 min
    S6E4 - RUNDOWN | Amanda Seales, Diddy, and Gabrielle Confederacy

    S6E4 - RUNDOWN | Amanda Seales, Diddy, and Gabrielle Confederacy

    In this Rundown episode, Jenn and Daren get caught up on recent pop culture news. They start off talking about how apt it is that during Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month, it appears that accused abusers like Sea “Diddy” Combs and Russell Simmons are being held accountable. While they are not advocates of the carceral system of punishment, they are fully behind restorative justice, and accountability is a cornerstone of that.

    In the second segment, Jenn and Daren give updates on the political landscape, from Joe Biden’s star-studded fundraiser to Candice Owens getting fired from Daily Wire to the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge. In each instance, they highlight how politically misguided the country is at the moment. At a time where literal genocides are happening, a flashy fundraiser at Radio City Music Hall might look a bit tone deaf. Candice Owens has been a blight for the Black community for years, but her finding her way to Black media after being fired shows the media’s willingness to platform anybody or anything that will draw eyeballs, ears, or clicks. And when the Francis Scott Key bridge collapsed, conservative voices focused on trying to blame it on failed immigration policies or DEI, instead of mourning the loss of life and advocating for its restoration.

    In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the space Shaun King and Amanda Seales take up in our culture.Shaun King has been accused of being a grifter for years, and his conversion to Islam to stand “in solidarity” with Palestinians feels like more of the same. And after Amanda Seales complained about articles pointing out that she might be getting iced out Black Hollywood because people might not enjoy working with her, it is time for folks to look at themselves in the mirror and take accountability for their actions. Everything can’t be someone else’s fault. Sometimes you create your own problems.

    Reference Material:
    S2E26 - Why We Aren't Rooting For Everybody Black - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-26-why-we-arent-rooting-for-everybody-black
    S1E8 - Harvey Weinstein and Gaslighting as Culture - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-8-harvey-weinstein-and-gaslighting-as-culture
    Op-Ed: It's Time To Admit That Being Liked Is More Important Than Being Good At Your Job - https://www.essence.com/news/money-career/amanda-seales-competence-likability-career/
    Amanda Seales is not a victim of anything but her own hubris - https://thegrio.com/2024/04/02/amanda-seales-is-not-a-victim-of-anything-but-her-own-hubris/

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    Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com

    Podcast Summary:
    This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
    Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

    • 52 min
    S6E3 - Where Have You Been?

    S6E3 - Where Have You Been?

    In this “Where Have You Been?” episode, Jenn and Daren let everyone know where they have been for the last few weeks. They start things off by talking about their recent spot in Huffington Post Black Voices series “Black Love on Our Terms,” in which they share how their relationship works and how others can use their model to find love on their own terms. They follow that up with an account of Jenn’s hospital stay and the challenges of being a Black woman in the care of modern day doctors.

    In the second segment, Jenn and Daren detail how Jenn’s book tour has progressed in support of her book “Black Women Taught Us.” This isn't your regular book signing, as their events start with a practitioner grounding the space and build a conversation not just about “Black Women Taught Us,” but about the centering and honoring of Black women.

    In the third segment, Jenn and Daren focus on Women’s History Month, but championing the Black women we come into contact with everyday. In “Black Women Taught Us,” Jenn models this behavior by putting the personal people in their life who have shaped who they are in conversation with more well-known names whose contributions are largely overlooked or taken for granted. Jenn and Daren encourage everyone to celebrate all the women in their lives in this same way, recognizing the role they play in keeping us alive and safe.

    Reference Material:
    * The Dynamics Of This Relationship Will Expand Your Definition Of Black Love - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/that-black-couple-jenn-daren-jackson_n_65ce9b22e4b043f1c0aa8cea
    * Black Women Taught Us by Jenn M. Jackson - amzn.to/48e8iKH


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    Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com

    Podcast Summary:
    This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
    Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

    • 38 min
    S6E2 - The Rundown | HISS, Big Foot, and “I Don’t Unbend My Elbows Barbie”

    S6E2 - The Rundown | HISS, Big Foot, and “I Don’t Unbend My Elbows Barbie”

    In this rundown episode, Jenn and Daren catch up on important happenings from the last few weeks. In the first segment, they recap the high points of Megan Thee Stallion’s “HISS” and Nicki Minaj’s failure of a response “Big Foot.”

    In the second segment, Jenn and Daren highlight the wins Black folx took home from the 2024 Grammys and Oscars, celebrating the achievements of artists such as Victoria Monet, Coco Jones, and Samara Joy. In turn they question the status of a music industry where Killa Mike wins top rap honors and Jay-Z is awarded a Dr. Dre Global Impact award. On the film side, they lament an industry still awarding Black women for playing mammies (Da’Vine Joy Randolph from “The Holdovers”), finding a home for “I Don’t Unbend My Elbows Barbie” (aka Issa Rae), and allowing Tyler Perry to continue making movies like Tyler Perry’s “Mea Culpa.”

    In the third segment, they close things out on a positive note, spotlighting a recent $100M award granted to Spelman College and a donation made in the name of supporting Black college students from Lloyd & Janice Dong.

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    Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com

    Podcast Summary:
    This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
    Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

    • 43 min
    S6E1 - Choosing Yourself in 2024

    S6E1 - Choosing Yourself in 2024

    In this episode, Jenn and Daren welcome everyone into the new year with an update on everything that is going on with them. Since the end of the last season, Jenn’s book "Black Women Taught Us" is available for purchase, Daren had eye surgery, and they have released people who couldn’t respect boundaries. They urge everyone listening to radically choose themselves in 2024 and see how much better life is on that side.

    They also look forward to everything that they are setting out to accomplish in 2024. This includes the continuation of their popular writing programs, engaging with listeners more, sharing who is working on the team behind the scenes, and the launch of their literary magazine WaterCooler Literary.

    Reference Material:
    * Black Women Taught Us by Jenn M. Jackson - https://amzn.to/48e8iKH

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    Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com

    Podcast Summary:
    This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
    Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

    • 31 min
    S5E10 - Poly For The Holidays Part 2: Letting People Go

    S5E10 - Poly For The Holidays Part 2: Letting People Go

    In this second part of their holiday themed episode, Jenn and Daren talk about the importance of chosen family, and not just for queer communities. With Jenn’s partner Jamelle as a guest, they share how they celebrated the holiday season together as a poly family.

    In survey after survey, it shows that people, especially younger generations, are increasingly dreading going to family events. And some of the prime reasons for this are ideological differences and offensive lines of questioning. If the point of family holiday gatherings is togetherness, why do over half of Gen-Zers report having a heated argument at them? The trio share the circumstances of them having to “release people” and how fulfilling alternative celebrations have been in their lives. Moving away from traditional family and traditional structures can be difficult, but they stress how much better it was to center their own joy and happiness. It also creates an opportunity to honor the traditions that are meaningful and to build new ones.

    They close things out by looking ahead and choosing a word that describes how they are moving forward into 2024.

    Reference Material:
    PREORDER Black Women Taught Us: An Intimate History of Black Feminism by Jenn M. Jackson PhD - https://amzn.to/3N5m4Yg
    Set Boundaries, Find Peace, The Set Boundaries Workbook 2 Books Collection Set By Nedra Glover Tawwab - https://amzn.to/47Frf9U
    What ‘Chosen Family’ Means — and How to Build Your Own - https://www.healthline.com/health/relationships/chosen-family
    More than 1 in 3 Gen Zers are choosing friends over family this holiday season - https://fortune.com/well/2023/12/13/1-in-3-gen-z-friends-family-holiday-season-avoid-drama-key/amp/
    Survey: Nearly 85% of Americans avoid family over the holidays - https://www.usatoday.com/money/blueprint/travel-insurance/holiday-traditions/
    5 Unexpected Insights About People Who Celebrate Friendsgiving - https://civicscience.com/5-Unexpected-Insights-About-People-Who-Celebrate-Friendsgiving

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    Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com

    Podcast Summary:
    This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
    Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

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