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Broke/Broken
Welcome to Broke Broken, a newsletter and podcast about our broken systems, the disparities they cause, and how we might address these issues. Before we get into the interview today, we wanted to just take a step back and talk a little bit more about why we're talking, why we're starting this newsletter and podcast. And I'm using the word "we" because there's two of us behind Broke/Broken. But you won't be hearing our names because we want things to be really confusing. Is that right?
Yeah, we wanted to create a podcast and newsletter that is as ambiguous and confusing and alienating to people as the systems in which we currently live.
In all seriousness, we want to remain anonymous because, you know, we have full-time jobs and we don't want to jeopardize those jobs, just like many people out there who are afraid to sort of take risks or sort of cheating the system by hopefully remaining anonymous, not trying that hard. But, you know, we'll see. We'll see what happens.
Yeah, we're broke. And we're living in a broken society and we don't have time to look for new jobs once they fire us for being dissidents.
For saying that. For saying that out loud. If you haven't yet, you can go over to brokebroken.substack.com to see the first two sort of releases that we did. We had an interview with author and fellow at New America, Lee Drutman. We talked about the two-party system and also we wrote a piece-- my colleague here wrote a piece about how our inequality is killing us. So awesome. Very bright stuff so far, really uplifting stuff.
If you need like something to take the edge off your day. You just pop on over to BrokeBroken.substack.com and that's where you find things to cheer you up.
That's the remedy right there. So, a little bit about this interview that you're about to hear is, first of all, you know, the one of the biggest things, one of the biggest trials that our nation has seen in some time.
The trial of Derek Chauvin recently happened (note: Derek Chauvin’s guilty verdict was announced less than 24 hours from the time of this recording) and we wanted to talk about obviously individual accountability, but more so— and something that we're really interested here is systemic accountability. So, you know, obviously, Derek Chauvin was found guilty of all three charges that he was charged for. But, you know? What happens next in terms of systemic accountability? So to help us, you know, really dive into this conversation, we talked to Professor of Sociology at the University of Maryland and Fellow at the Brookings Institution, Dr. Rashawn Ray. So I'm really excited to share this interview with you all.
And I wasn't able to sit on the interview this time, but my colleague did a great job interviewing him, and I hope you like it.
Broke/Broken
Well, I'm actually really excited for this conversation because I think we can go a little bit deeper into what we normally do. And I know that you've done so much research on the subject of police brutality and kind of looking at sort of the structural issues in the systems. But before you get into all of that, first of all, thank you so much for joining today. And you know, we're less than twenty four hours of hearing of the guilty verdict of Derek Shoven, the former Minneapolis police officer who was charged in the murder of George Floyd. So I would love to just kind of get your reaction to that, you know, since we're so fresh from the news.
Dr. Rashawn Ray
Well, thank you for having me. I mean, when I think about the George Floyd murder, the Derek Chauvin, the Derek Chauvin conviction, I think that it was a slam dunk. I mean, based on the myriad of evidence that was involved, not only a lot of video evidence, but also an all star prosecution team from across the state, a racially diverse jury, which research documents is more likely to lead to equitable outcomes across groups, which is what we ultimately want. Also, a string of me
Photo by Clay Banks on Unsplash
Broke/Broken
Welcome to Broke Broken, a newsletter and podcast about our broken systems, the disparities they cause, and how we might address these issues. Before we get into the interview today, we wanted to just take a step back and talk a little bit more about why we're talking, why we're starting this newsletter and podcast. And I'm using the word "we" because there's two of us behind Broke/Broken. But you won't be hearing our names because we want things to be really confusing. Is that right?
Yeah, we wanted to create a podcast and newsletter that is as ambiguous and confusing and alienating to people as the systems in which we currently live.
In all seriousness, we want to remain anonymous because, you know, we have full-time jobs and we don't want to jeopardize those jobs, just like many people out there who are afraid to sort of take risks or sort of cheating the system by hopefully remaining anonymous, not trying that hard. But, you know, we'll see. We'll see what happens.
Yeah, we're broke. And we're living in a broken society and we don't have time to look for new jobs once they fire us for being dissidents.
For saying that. For saying that out loud. If you haven't yet, you can go over to brokebroken.substack.com to see the first two sort of releases that we did. We had an interview with author and fellow at New America, Lee Drutman. We talked about the two-party system and also we wrote a piece-- my colleague here wrote a piece about how our inequality is killing us. So awesome. Very bright stuff so far, really uplifting stuff.
If you need like something to take the edge off your day. You just pop on over to BrokeBroken.substack.com and that's where you find things to cheer you up.
That's the remedy right there. So, a little bit about this interview that you're about to hear is, first of all, you know, the one of the biggest things, one of the biggest trials that our nation has seen in some time.
The trial of Derek Chauvin recently happened (note: Derek Chauvin’s guilty verdict was announced less than 24 hours from the time of this recording) and we wanted to talk about obviously individual accountability, but more so— and something that we're really interested here is systemic accountability. So, you know, obviously, Derek Chauvin was found guilty of all three charges that he was charged for. But, you know? What happens next in terms of systemic accountability? So to help us, you know, really dive into this conversation, we talked to Professor of Sociology at the University of Maryland and Fellow at the Brookings Institution, Dr. Rashawn Ray. So I'm really excited to share this interview with you all.
And I wasn't able to sit on the interview this time, but my colleague did a great job interviewing him, and I hope you like it.
Broke/Broken
Well, I'm actually really excited for this conversation because I think we can go a little bit deeper into what we normally do. And I know that you've done so much research on the subject of police brutality and kind of looking at sort of the structural issues in the systems. But before you get into all of that, first of all, thank you so much for joining today. And you know, we're less than twenty four hours of hearing of the guilty verdict of Derek Shoven, the former Minneapolis police officer who was charged in the murder of George Floyd. So I would love to just kind of get your reaction to that, you know, since we're so fresh from the news.
Dr. Rashawn Ray
Well, thank you for having me. I mean, when I think about the George Floyd murder, the Derek Chauvin, the Derek Chauvin conviction, I think that it was a slam dunk. I mean, based on the myriad of evidence that was involved, not only a lot of video evidence, but also an all star prosecution team from across the state, a racially diverse jury, which research documents is more likely to lead to equitable outcomes across groups, which is what we ultimately want. Also, a string of me
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