"The Cognitive Revolution‪"‬ Nathan Labenz

My guest today is Linus Lee, AI product leader at Notion and AI explorer extraordinaire.

Today, I'm thrilled to be speaking with Keerthana Gopalakrishnan and Ted Xiao, researchers at Google DeepMind Robotics who are developing AI systems for general-purpose robotics.

This is Keerthana's second appearance on the show – just a year ago, fresh off the publications of RT-1 and Palm-E, she described the state of AI for robotics as being between GPT-2 and GPT-3, noting that the lack of internet-scale data was a major barrier to progress.

Since then, Keerthana, Ted, and their colleagues at Google Deepmind have published a remarkable flurry of papers, demonstrating new techniques that allow robots to leverage large multimodal modals, to control different physical forms, to learn more efficiently from human examples and instructions, and even to use a prototype "robot constitution" to guide their behavior. 

Today, my guest is Andrew Lee, founder of Shortwave, an AI-powered email app that describes itself as "The smartest email app on planet Earth"

It was a real honor to be invited on the 80,000 podcast, which I've listened to for years, and I thought this conversation with host Rob Wiblin, which summarizes my worldview far more than a typical Cognitive Revolution episode, would be a great way to kick things off on The Cognitive Revolution's new feed.

Welcome to the new home of The Cognitive Revolution.