The economic growth-paradigm and our future-orientation is connected to a sense of lack and to grasping. David Loy Intimacy with the world

In this conversation with David Loy, we speak about the intertwinig and connection between the current ecological crisis and our personal existential feeling of lack of wholeness. A lack created by consumerism, todays dominating religion acording to David Loy.

These are some of the themes of our conversation:


A lot of the problems we find ourselves in have to do with consciousness
The climate crisis is just the tip of the iceberg
We are not separate from the natural world
The natural world is not just our conveniance store or a place to dump stuff
Our mechanistic view of life
non-dualiti and non-separation
It’s not just a political crisis but also a spiritual one
In this nonduality we are going to realise something new about ourselves and the world, and see that there is no separation
The healing of the earth will also result in a healing of ourselves
This delusion of individualism and the sense of lack it brings with it
The wholeness we long for occurs when we are able to open up to this nonduality, mother earth, Buddha nature, God… this opening can take place through some kind of spiritual practice.
Time is also connected to this sense of lack. There is this future orientation in this lack paradigm, that we miss the present moment. This makes us unable to appreciate what is already here
Mindfulness, meditation and a supportive community are important parts of counteraction
Mindfulness, meditation and a supportive community are important parts of counteraction
Joanna Macy - We must feel more deeply to transform more deeply
What is it greater than myself, that I want to be in service of?
To be engaged in what we believe in, but not be attached to the result, this is also about non-attachment
Our commitment to this work has to be our gift, given without expectations
Cultivating Dont know mind
The bodhisatwa path - we are not doing it for ourselves, but for the good of all living beings
Dogen: it’s not about rejecting concepts, it’s about liberating the concepts - this is the creativity that springs from non duality.
This future orientation is very much connected to grasping and consumerism and takes us away from the flow of the eternal now
Insofar as we believe in a separate selfe, We are haunted by this sense of lack
The delusion of separation
We often engage in lack projects to fill the bottomless hole of our being
There is some movement or tendency in the world to work against the ruling paradigm
How our personal path is intertwined with the more global, societal path
The website of the echodharma center in Catalunya, Spain: http://www.ecodharma.com

David Loy's website: www.davidloy.org

My website: www.duritaholm.com