Tea Room Dialogues The Satanic Estate

A little background on what's going on with this episode.
We hoped that when Tea Room Dialogs is on hiatus, we would periodically post some random extra episode as a mid-season break special. But with everything else going on at The Estate lately, we haven't had much time.However, we did come across this sporadic audio recording from one of our Estate Caretakers. We decided it's a fascinating snapshot into ... let's call it, a bit of Estate lore.
We don't know the actual date of the recording. There's consensus that it was a pre-Obama era, but whether it was before or after the election is unclear.
What we can say for certain is that at some point in what we believe mid-to-late 2008, The Estate's very own Ada King found herself on a tour bus with Amanda Palmer and a cell phone with a voice recorder.
We feel this is informative because when people ask 'what kind of people would make such a thing as The Satanic Estate?' we are obliged to answer. And near as we can ascertain the answer is 'the kind of people who were doing independent entertainment journalism the midst of the great recession'.
Now, to put this in context for Amanda Palmer fans, it is generally agreed upon that this was most likely during touring for the 'Who Killed Amanda Palmer?' album, which is significant because it would put it right before she would go on to the ridiculously successful Kickstarter that lead to Art of Asking and redefining the patron model for creatives. So we hope you find this candid glimpse into an earlier part of a truly unique career enjoyable.
All the best,
The Caretakers

While preparing the grounds of the Estate for Hexennacht, our caretaker Saint Licorice popped into the Ritual Chamber to have some tea and a chat with Shiva Honey, creator of Satanic rituals and so much more.
Shiva tells us about her fascination with Gritty (the Philadelphia Flyers’ mascot), her approach to ritual, and her outlook on teaching and learning. We learn about the wide array of projects that Shiva is pursuing from music to becoming a death doula. Shiva charts her journey as a Satanist from growing up as a kid all the way to her recent role as a Minister of Satan.
Through a heartfelt conversation, Saint Licorice and Shiva dive even further into the nature of art, the practice of Satanism, gurus, mental health and well-being, and so much more. Shiva will be appearing on a panel related to mental health and Satanism during Hexennacht at the Estate.
Shiva has been part of The Satanic Temple since 2014 as a founding member of the Detroit Chapter. She served on the National Council and now, through her shop Serpentinae, offers a wide variety of boutique rituals.
The Tea Room Dialogues is a conversational podcast featuring Estate guests and caretakers from all over the world. Get to know more about our guests and staff, hear stories that don’t make it into talks and presentations, feel the laid back ambiance of our virtual tea room like you’re overhearing a conversation at your local coffee shop.
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The Tea Room Dialogues is a conversational podcast featuring guest of TheSatanic.Estate and caretakers from all over the world. Get to know more about our guests and staff, hear stories that don’t make it into talks and presentations, feel the laid back ambiance of our virtual tea room like you’re overhearing a conversation at your local coffee shop.
Music by Ona, CC-BY

Seeking respite from the bustling activity of the World Congress on Moral Panics taking place in Faction Hall on the far side of the Estate grounds, Jack took the opportunity to opportunity to pop over to the Virtual Headquarters building for refreshments. An unexpected visitor arrives when La Carmina pops in after a trip to Mexico with gifts for the Estate from far off lands.
Join Jack and La Carmina for a conversation about travel, covering Satanism and dark subcultures, writing, content creation, and more.
La Carmina is an award-winning author and journalist who runs the alternative culture and travel blog larcarmina.com, which won "Best Blog of the Year" from Auxiliary Magazine, and was featured in the NY Times. Her journalism was awarded Bronze by the SATW (Society of American Travel Writers) in 2020. Based in Vancouver, Carmina is the author of three books (published with Random House and Penguin), is a TEDx speaker, and appears on travel TV shows worldwide (Bizarre Foods, No Reservations, Taboo, Oddities, Better Late than Never). She contributes to CNN, Fodor's, Business Insider, Yahoo, Sunday Times, Airbnb, Huffington Post, Lonely Planet, Architectural Digest, The Daily Beast, Tripsavvy, Buzzfeed, BBC, Roadtrippers, Home in Canada Magazine, Brides, and various inflight magazines (Hong Kong Airlines, Aeromexico). She managed dozens of freelancers and wrote over 600 travel articles for Google’s Touring Bird site. La Carmina is a graduate of Columbia University and Yale Law School.
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Jack Matirko is an editor/writer for Patheos’ For Infernal Use Only Blog, host of TST-TV’s An Ongoing and Necessary Pursuit, co-host of Devils Dispatch, former co-host of the Naked Diner Podcast, and currently Assistant-Director of TheSatanic.Estate

For more information about The Satanic Temple visit: thesatanictemple.org

HOST: Jack Matirko
GRAPHIC DESIGN: Saint Licorice
AUDIO ENGINEER: Jack Matirko
PRODUCER: Ada King
MUSIC: Ona, CC-BY

Former Chapter head and International Council member Chalice Blythe was researching through the Satanic Panic collection in the library when Mary happens by and the pair decides to break for tea.
The pair engage in a rousing, in-depth, and intimate conversation spanning Chalice’s years of involvement with The Satanic Temple, from co-founding the original Utah Chapter, heading up national campaigns, insights from her time on International Council, and her current work with Grey Faction including the upcoming 2021 World Congress on Moral Panics, which will be hosted at the Estate starting next week on April 9th.
For more about Grey Faction and ticketing information for the 2021 World Congress on Moral Panics please visit greyfaction.org and Faction.thesatanic.estate
The Tea Room Dialogues is a conversational podcast featuring Estate guests and caretakers from all over the world. Get to know more about our guests and staff, hear stories that don’t make it into talks and presentations, feel the laid back ambiance of our virtual tea room like you’re overhearing a conversation at Starbucks.
Music by Ona, CC-BY

We find Maryline Spicy and Thomas O’Brien Vallor in the Back Parlor of The Satanic Estate lounging in comfy velvet chairs, sipping on some chamomile and lavender.
During this episode of the Tea Room Dialogues, we discover that, contrary to popular belief, witches and Satanists aren’t all that somber or sinister. This episode’s guest is Thomas O’Brien Vallor, a veteran tour guide of Salem, Massachusetts, and a regular performer at The Estate. Thomas is known for his very vibrant personality and the Estate wouldn’t be the same without him. The conversation starts with a graceful note of humility as he tells us about how he earned his moniker: Salem Witch Wiles.
Our favorite Satanic tour guide takes us down memory lane we go from a studious childhood to becoming a historian, a witch and a Satanist. We get to know how he reconciles being both the Satanist and the Witch in his practice. We learn about Thomas and his rituals, his vision, and his version of both cultures.
As a historian, of course, Thomas teaches us a bit of the shared past of satanists and witches. He touches on the satanic panic and the evil stereotype of satanic witches.
With Hexxennacht coming up, Thomas is planning his next performances at the Estate and this is where to get the tea in the Back Parlor at The Satanic Estate.
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The Tea Room Dialogues is a conversational podcast featuring collaborators and caretakers of The Satanic Estate from all over the world. Get to know more about our guests and caretakers, hear stories that don’t make it into events and presentations, feel the laid back ambiance of our virtual Tea Room like you’re overhearing a conversation at your local coffee shop. New episodes now through Hexennacht!For more information about The Satanic Temple visit: thesatanictemple.org
HOST: Maryline Spicy
GRAPHIC DESIGN: Saint Licorice
AUDIO ENGINEER: Jack Matirko
PRODUCER: Ada King
MUSIC: Ona, CC-BY

Welcome to the Tea Room Dialogues
After a nice dinner at the Estate, it’s tea time! The Estate's own Maryline Spicy has a chat while eating freshly baked scones with the Satanic Chef.
It all starts with laughter, a recipe and a flavor. You can already tell how delightful this interview is going to be! Just listen to him talk about his passion! You better be ready for a buffet of emotions! You’ll laugh, you’ll “awww” and you’ll want seconds!
As we lounge in the beautiful winter garden sipping on a nice hot brew, Adam tells us about his early interest in satanism. We retrace his amazing adventures and life experience. This is the Genesis of our very own Adam, the Satanic Chef.
You get all the tea: from endearing childhood stories about discovering the occult and finding his interest for cooking, to Culinary school and working (hard!) in the industry, all while meeting amazing people and traveling coast-to-coast. Discover Adam’s practices as a Chef and as a Satanist, his friends, peers and mentors but also his upcoming projects, his style and ethics!
Satanist as can be, the Chef encourages us to not only better our plates but ourselves by gaining knowledge in the culinary dark arts ...but not only! He shares with us his proudest accomplishments and what makes him happy.
Yes, there is a whole Jack moment in here, no good protagonist without a sidekick!
The final touch, cherry on the cake: memories and memorabilia
For more information about The Satanic Temple visit: thesatanictemple.org
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The Tea Room Dialogues is a conversational podcast featuring Estate guests and caretakers from all over the world. Get to know more about our guests and staff, hear stories that don’t make it into talks and presentations, feel the laid back ambiance of our virtual tea room like you’re overhearing a conversation at Starbucks. New episodes now through Hexennacht! For more information about the estate please visit TheSatanic.Estate
Music by Ona, CC-BY